First off, straight off the bat you took my phrase completely out of context and if you were to actually pay attention to the current discussion, you wouldn't have made that mistake. And don't direct arguments towards me discussing our prospects of this Spanish/Catalan generation, I will run circles around you. What was actually the meaing of my statement, was the sheer fact they didn't fully blossom until they gained enough experience as midfielders tend to do, especially ones that show potential at an early age. Pep Guardiola's influence on both Xavi and Iniesta was before both of them even stepped foot out of La Masia. A talent that was blossoming before they even matured (Pre 2008 for Iniesta and before Xavi even became a first team regular for Barca, 21-23) In which they both grew as players and gained experience before they were unveiled by Aragones then developed by Pep. Pep idenditifed their talent and carried alot of praise for them to the whole world yet their talents weren't fully emerged or discoverd. Xavi was being subbed on and rotated constantly, Iniesta was 2nd favorite to Deco.They performed well for the youth until they got promoted but they were not written off at the fucking age of 19 from the fans and managers because they showed signs of potential and at times struggled. They were youth protects, born and bread in Catalonia,showed promise and the club carried it's tradition in promoting youth. Something we constantly fail to do. What I'm trying to connect is the sheer ideaology that certain players don't blossom until they have gained enough experience, IE Xavi and Iniesta. To write off McEachran when the likes of Ancelloti and Wilkins knew about the lads talent and the potential he could achieve given the experience. is fucking ridiculous. Both Xavi and Iniesta shined with better players around them at the time, why can't we do that McEachran? Did i fucking mention were writing off a lad that can't even drink yet?