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Yes at Chelsea there was a foundation laid there by Raniere, so at Inter by Mancini, and Real Madrid by Pellegrini. While they have an element of truth I never really cared about such views. Nor do I care about the same thing you mention about City with Pelle and Mourinho with Chelsea.

Because that "counter argument" funnily enough is the same one people often use for hating on Mourinho bashing down his previous work from other teams.....Like that he got to a team ready build by someone else and yadi yadi ya. Those are the haters that have always used those arguments against him. I never really cared much for such scenario even though they have an element of truth.

I wouldn't say bad, but I woudln't say excellent. We made a positive net spend, but we sold a lot of younger players for older players with less resale value. Felipe, Cuadrado, Willian... While also made some great buys in Matic, Fabregas, Costa. So it's not an extreme to bad or good. If I had to give a scorecard I would say B+

Pellegrini did the same last season. Nothing special about pellegrini either imo.

True point which is why it would make it worse that instead of improving next season we regress. So we shall see if we are having the same issue that we have had many times this season. Either we can't kill the game or hold out. We used to be good at parking the bus and now we can't even do that well. Smh

At least he was right about Mourinho. Because I also seen nothing special in these two seasons. And the team played like most people thought. Like from the moment Ramires got the yellow card I was like take him out because he was going to do something reckless. Ramires knew this and you saw how he lower his play. He was a passenger all of second. But mourinho decide to change Matic over zouma first.... I was like come on men go for the kill! Mourinho over and over continues to show his conservative approach for such games, instead of being more killer.

Like I said pellegrini did the same exact thing Mourinho is about to do this season while playing good fútbol. So there's nothing of greatness so far. Now this season city have not improve and pellegrini is talked about being sack. It will be the same for mourinho if next season instead of improving we have regress, it will be the same.

I think we all agree with this but also said that this guy gave everything in big important games for us. He was like Drogba fired up for big occasion and that is one thing most of us said we would miss from him. And yes I missed that when I saw him acting like that instead of a Fabregas walking the pitch after the first half....

Yeah but people forget about that. We would have been clapping like madmen and call him legend if he had done that for our team yesterday. So that's why I can't really hate the guy. He has heart something Fabregas don't. I prefer jerks then nice guys in this sport.

Even thought there's some thing I don't agree with Mourinho I thought and still think that the sell was the right thing at that time. However I would think that our club would be smart enough to include a buy back or even a first buyer refusal clause in there. Now that was sheer stupidity from the club as a whole! Sturridge and no buy back clause on KDB has been the two biggest stupid mistakes of the club in a long time.

Stability for me is between 3 to 5 years. You can accomplish a lot in that time. What I don't agree is to have Mourinho as our saf. I think that saf was an anomaly and should not be used as measuring tool. I would prefer to look at the time frame that pep did for his team. 5 years is good enough. Mourinho has done two and have not been two years of greatness. Two years that someone like pellegrini has done with similar resources if you can call it that... But mourinho will get his third year, and who knows maybe 4th. But I have not see nothing of greatness that merits unlimited amount of years. Unless we are going the Arsenal way and be satisfied with a certain standard...

The thing is that even before the goal came we was inviting the pressure with one more man. Ramires who didn't do so much of anything continue to stay in the team till the end of the second..... Why change Matic for zouma? Your one goal up with one less men, go for the kill! It's just not today but many many times that we have seen that. We score one goal and we retract. It's cost us every single time. So has he not seen this issue? In this respect I agree when people get mad at Mourinho for his cautious approach.

Well I hope carlo is still interested and buys him... If he has not been sacked this summer.

If we can sell Oscar and Ramires and get better replacement then that should be good. Pogba I think is a no go. His price is just ridiculous, unless juventus want Oscar then maybe we can do something. Koke would be awesome but I don't think he wants to come. Didn't he signed a new contract? So those two options are hard. It might just be another minimal upgrade like with Cuadradro....

Yes you make a great point but something about it doesn't sit right. It seems weird that we should compare such budgets with that of a lowly Dortmund,even if your talking about net spend. Because we spend a lot of money on young talent. Like I said you have a good point but something just doesn't sit right....

Well if you guys going on about Net spend, I think that's what Real Madrid has been doing as of late. Buy and then sell. Di Maria recently, Ozil last season. But it's still not the same comparing that with A. Madrid and Dortmund. I still say you have to compare us with City, Real Madrid and such that have big budget and assets.

Ancelotti and Benitez have a case I think. Carlo one good season and bad season. Benitez hated by many but was not that bad. Mourinho so far one good season and bad. Giving the resources of Chelsea I have not seen nothing of greatness that some other manager cannot do. Again giving the resources. But I agree with you, there's no point sacking now. It will be more of a concern if next season we are in the same situation. By then we can say he will never learn as he's just stubborn.

If someone like pellegrini can do the same as Mourinho while playing better with the same resources then I will say anyone better then pellegrini. But not now since we are in course of winning the Premier League. Next season if we regress then it will be time. Because many people are forgetting the resources equation when comparing managers. Give someone similar resources and might produce the same as we seen in city.

Great point but your leaving something out. Simeone Atletico and klopp budget ain't the same as Chelsea. If you should be comparing us then it should be to City pellegrini as we are in the same category. And in that view Mourinho will have achieved exactly the same thing pellegrini did last season. Carling cup, Premier League and last 16...

Lol he bought Cuadradro and didn't even play him.....

Nope but people will still say thing like they did of city last season despite winning two trophies.

Pellegrini did the same last year and people was not convinced. Today he's being talked of getting the sack....

Yeah but I loved them. After Torres, I like every player that is like this. Costa, Suárez, David luiz. That's what we need not wimpy characters.

You can call it bitter but so far they been right. Goes missing second half and dissappear in big games. Next time instead of getting excited for how well we start I will just wait to see how well we finish.

Maybe I was seeing wrong though because it looked like he walked everywhere after the second half.