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KDB was never giving chance by your favorite manager.... So the point is that managers like Mourinho and Conte don't give chances to young players. And tell me, are players that we have that worse then Ivanovic? If they are worse then Ivanovic then yes you are right, our academy is crap. But if it ain't, then it's the problem of manager like Mourinho and Conte that don't give chances but just buy ready made players. And we also are wasting money on mediocre players. 23 million for Alonso and 34 for David Luiz is absurd.

Yeah well at least this continues to prove that sacking Mourinho was the right decision. That guy totally put us back, but it's okay as Conte is a step up to him. But Conte ain't in the class of Pep or Klopp but that's okay because we are no longer in a position to demand the best. We will need to go the way of Arsenal and accept mediocrity since that's what the board is doing with all these transfers....

Actually all those hating on Pep and calling him a fraud are eating their words right now. Continues to prove why he is the best in the world. And simple as fact that we wanted Pep and when he didn't came we went for Mourinho. Which was all wrong since he left us completely devoid of creative talent we once had ready for Pep.

This is what was said about Baba last year and nothing. We just waste money on Alonso like we did with Baba. That's what the board likes to do, waste money on mediocre players.

The only thing I see is that most people are annoyed that he still uses the same lineup that Mourinho and Hiddink put out. And to be fair I'm not surprised. I said it from the beginning that people and the board want youth but they get managers that are not good for this... If you want youth, why go for Mourinho and Conte? These guys are not good for that, they need to spend good in the market to be competitive. Board didn't do that, so they should not expect much. If they do then the board are a bunch of fools.

Why you guys complaining about the players? We knew that last year but the board did nothing. Can't be that mad at Conte or the players. It's what the board left us with after another poor transfer window.

We always beat Arsenal, so that should be a no brainer. If we are having problems against Arsenal I'll be worried.

Yeah here: David Luiz not first choice at Chelsea, say Sky Sports pundits http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10581200/david-luiz-not-first-choice-at-chelsea-say-sky-sports-pundits

It's a pity the board didn't get him Nainggolan and koulibaly. Instead we are stuck with a lot of crap players. I really hope the board are not delusional to expect a tittle challenge with these players?

Got to give it to him, he had a good game but my point still stands. The reason we are here is because we buy many mediocre players. If David Luiz is the best we can buy then don't expect us to challenge for anything. That being said, he is far better then Cahill, hopefully when Terry is fit he stars a long with him.

Not his fault that Mourinho, Hiddink and now Conte keeps picking him....

Knew this was going to happen. We keep doing the same mistake again, just like Ivanovic after a time we fall in love and don't move them. Same thing is happening with Willian, last season was his peek and instead of move him on and get a nice pay day we fall in love. And thus we end up with players like Ivan that decrease in value and quality.

People forget also that klopp is almost two seasons here. He did not started that well either. If Liverpool show consistency they might win it. Because they have no European football.

Yeah but klopp been there for almost two seasons. When he first started it wasn't good. The only team that was ready made is city because they been playing good for a while, and Arsenal if some good coach take over. But United and us need work and you can see it in both cases this week.

Ridiculous some people here. We can't change so fast, we still got a lot of crap players. Remember the board did nothing really good other then Kante, the rest beside bats is just a waste of money. We keep wasting money on average players like David luiz, pedro, alonso and such. So can't really give him that much for the players we have and the poor job the board did. Other then that I always thought this was the first test and if you fail no big deal. The most important thing is to see how he react. Because a good manager will find solutions after a loss and such. So now we can see what he is made of in the coming weeks.

Interesting to see how he shakes the team for the next one, because no doubt we already lost this game bar a miracle.

Atlético Madrid’s Diego Simeone confirms contract will expire in 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/sep/16/atletico-madrid-diego-simeone-contract-2018 Think when he leaves if he wants to come to the PL he might go to Arsenal.....

Nothing is won this early. Wait till December to come to some sort of conclusion.

One thing I agree with you, wait till the end of the season. I do think he will figure it out and turn around. If he doesn't, this is going to be ugly.

I'm still amazed that we played good futbol with Mourinho two seasons ago. And then to add to that with Real Madrid as well. But amazingly both was second season, seems like Mourinho best season always comes second season and then everything falls apart. Weather that's the same here we shall see, but United has a lot of money to just throw some cash to fix the problems.

Poor guy, he won't be able to sleep for a while.

Yeah this guy is way under rated. Next summer we should put all our money on this guy like United did with Pogba.

Wow Lukaku got a hat trick......

Niall Quinn: Jose Mourinho post-match quotes contrast to approach of Pep Guardiola and Sir Alex Ferguson Niall Quinn questions Jose Mourinho's criticism of his players and how it contrasts with Pep Guardiola's defence of Claudio Bravo and the approaches of Sir Alex Ferguson and Howard Kendall... http://www.skysports.com/football/news/27183/10575302/niall-quinn-jose-mourinho-post-match-quotes-contrast-to-approach-of-pep-guardiola-and-sir-alex-ferguson Pretty much. He has not learn and is doing the same mistakes. Guess he will never go back to what he used to be, where he will defend his players all the time. Now since Real Madrid he throws players under the bus.

I can't really be mad at the ref. Since we was bound to get some bad calls going our way, giving that the first few games we got lucky. i.e with Costa not being sent of. Other then that, yeah defense sucks but nothing we never knew. If by October the new buys are not in, then totally waste of money, again!