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Too bad they both can't miss out. Maybe Spurs, it would be priceless to knock them out two years in a row.

Apparently Moses has picked up an injury. Benayoun to start?

Too bad Arsenal are winning by so many goals, now a draw against Everton won't be enough for third place if Arsenal win Newcastle.

Lukaku is going on loan because that's what the man himself wants. Ba is a good squad player and if Cavani or some other top class striker comes in, Ba will have to accept a smaller role because no chance in hell should we bench Mata just for Ba's sake, that's one of the most ridiculous things someone's suggested in a long time. And I really don't give a fuck what happens to the ladyboy, he can either leave or do a Bogarde if he's cuntish enough but if we want to challenge for the league title, then parasites like Fernando Torres will have absolutely no place in the team.

Yes, and why the fuck should we marginalize Mata for the ladyboy? GTFO

Ramires missing out is good for Chelsea because now he can have a proper break in the summer, feel for him on a personal level though. Looking at that midfield, Scolari may end up playing Luiz at CM.

Yes, Dirk Kuyt was never all that. A work horse who will run his lungs off but no talent and at his peak I wouldn't have taken him anywhere near Chelsea. And what is this international pedigree you talk about? Right now I would say that from Chelsea's squad Cech, Ivanovic, Luiz, Ramires, Oscar, Mikel and Hazard are way more important players to their national teams than Dirk Kuyt ever was for Holland, he has always been in the shadow of Van Persie, Robben, Huntelaar, Van der Vaart and so on. From the past I would also say that Frank Lampard, Ashley Cole and John Terry definitely have the 'pedigree' despite England pretty much failing at international level. Dirk Kuyt got to one World Cup final with Holland and lost, not much more so can't rate him a huge success either. And what did Liverpool achieve during Torres' time there? That's right, absolutely fuck all. Getting to a Champions League semi isn't much of an achievement and in the league relying too much on Torres ended up biting them in the arse because they couldn't keep up with the other top teams every time Torres got injured, which happened quite often. Building your team around a single player is like I said stupid because the team is fucked if the star man is off form or injured, that's why Liverpool never achieved much when Torres was there. We have gone to great lengths to try and help Fernando Torres succeed but there has to be a point when you have to concede loss and decide it's not worth it anymore and it's better to try and move on.

And what makes you think Chelsea don't have the tactics to benefit a player like De Bruyne? Mind you Chelsea is probably the most attacking midfielder -centered team in the world and here he would probably thrive better than anywhere else.

Like fuck they did. They simply replaced Rooney with Robin Van Persie and it has worked out fine for them, which really is no surprise considering Rooney also scored 27 league goals last season. And look where Liverpool's Torres-centered playing style got them, out of the Champions League places because relying on just one man to do the job and having second rate players like Dirk Kuyt just to suit this one player is fucking moronic.

No, it has more to do with the fact you talk a lot about Real Madrid in Mourinho's thread and use every chance to bash Jose and his tactics. Also, no actual Chelsea supporter would rate most of Manchester City's squad ahead of ours. Sure, they have their star players who would walk in our starting lineup with ease but Clichy ahead of Cole and so on, are you kidding me? At Dortmund he would probably play pretty much the same way he would at Chelsea so why would he go there either if that was the case? Have you watched them play? Not even Götze played centrally, he swapped positions during matches with Reus and Blaszczykowski much like he would do with the likes of Mata and Hazard. If Chelsea rated KdB at all, he would be recalled after such a fine season out on loan and given the chance in the first team. If he then failed that chance, it would be the right decision to at least consider sell him but not now when he would fetch only €15m and not the €40m he would potentially be valued at if he succeeded.

Why do you keep referring 'we' when you're clearly not a Chelsea supporter but a fan of Real Madrid? And I disagree. De Bruyne could easily come in and play a lot of games because there's no way Oscar, Hazard and Mata are up for another season with this much games and additional players are definitely needed next season. Moses is not good enough to be a starter, the likes of Marin and Beanyoun are already as good as gone so do you really think there isn't enough room for another one? If De Bruyne is sold, Chelsea will buy someone new for £30m to take this place in the team and that's just silly way of doing business. Then again, like I already said yesterday, that's nothing new to you as a Real Madrid fan. Sneijder out for 15m and Kaká in for 65m, if deals like that are okay to you then we have nothing else to discuss here.

That's not at all comparable to De Bruyne's situation because Sturridge had only six months left in his contract and he simply had to be sold in January or let him go for free because he never looked like signing a new contract. Also, Sturridge was at least somewhat given a chance to get in the team, he had some good and definitely some bad performances and his attitude wasn't the best so one could say he failed that chance. All things considered it was a decent enough decision to sell him, even if he is now playing well at Liverpool. De Bruyne is already better than Sturridge will ever be. Sturridge has the potential to be a good striker in the PL, just like players like Defoe and Bent have been, but I honestly can't see him becoming one of the best in the world. If De Bruyne now comes back for a year or two and isn't able to fully take his place in the team and wants to leave after a couple of seasons to go back to the Bundesliga or something, I'm sure many here wouldn't have a problem with that. However, selling him without giving him even one season to show what he's capable of is beyond moronic. Selling Sturridge may come back and bite the club in the ass if he is able to exceed expectations but selling De Bruyne will with a 100% certainty be a decision the club will regret at some point.

Fuck Kompany, he couldn't even beat Ryan Nelsen.

How many times have we signed Falcao by now, and Hulk last year? Not getting my hopes up.

Torres. I'm sure he won't fancy Mourinho coming back because he knows he's the first to go.

Did you even read the article? The man himself wants to go on loan to ensure he will be the top dog when he finally returns to Chelsea so who are the club to deny him that? Torres is as good as gone, Ba is a short-term player and the club seems to be buying someone new this summer. If we can get rid of Torres, that would leave us with the new signing and Demba Ba as our two strikers and Lukaku can easily replace Demba Ba at some point in the future but another year on loan certainly wouldn't hurt his development, especially if there was European football available to him which would significantly increase the amount of games he would play. Also, that article says he would still be part of the club's preseason plans and who knows, maybe the next manager would fancy Lukaku and convince him to stay if there's enough playing time available at Chelsea too and Lukaku himself would be okay with that.

Silva most likely will be better than this season but that's hardly surprising seeing as how shit he was this season. Even when they won the title last year and Silva had his best ever season, he was not as good as Mata of this season. Going to be a close one between these guys though, if Mata kan keep up this form and Silva plays like he played last season. Then there are Hazard and Oscar who are certain to be even better next season when they're familiar with the team and the country from the very beginning of the season. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Hazard scoring 20 league goals next season, much like Bale this year.Tevez is good, but he's a cunt and I wouldn't be surprised to see Pellegrini getting rid of this troublemaker. Monaco are interested. And seriously, Gael Clichy? Now you're just taking the piss. I agree that City under a 'decent manager' like Pellegrini will be a good side, at least better than they were this season. However, I am even more sure about the fact that Chelsea will be right up there as well with Mourinho in charge and a bunch of new signings coming in. It's going to be one of the most interesting seasons ever in the Premier League next year and at this point it's impossible to predect anything, you as a Real Madrid fan just seem to be so against the idea of Mourinho succeeding that you'll say pretty much anything to make him look bad and our rivals better than they in reality are.

He benched Casillas because they had a fight, can't see the same happening with Cech as they have a great relationship already from his time at Chelsea and I'm sure Cech would be delighted to have him back. But in the end it's is like @ said, a lovely dilemma for the management to have and think through. Like I've said before, I think Courtois should stay at Atletico for another year and then a season on loan in England before coming back for the 15/16 season to replace Cech as number one. Not because he's not good enough to take over sooner but because Cech is still an excellent keeper and he deserves to play at Chelsea for at least another two seasons as the first choice after all he's given to the club and Courtois is way too good to be just a backup.

True, they bought those players and it's amazing to have them. Even so, they are now supposedly about to sell De Bruyne, who's already as good as any of those three, for nearly a break-even price without letting him even once feature in a Chelsea shirt and then they surely go on and buy another flavor-of-the-month player for £30m to come and play with the other £30m men we already have when they could just as well recall De Bruyne for free and play him. As a Real Madrid fan you must be familiar with business like this (Sneijder out for 15m, Kaka in for 65m for example) with Florentino Perez's ridiculous Galacticoes and everything but we as Chelsea fans aren't really used for this so it's perfectly understandable for us to be shocked. If the board seriously sanctions this deal, then they deserve all the stick they can possibly get because I am 100% sure that Kevin De Bruyne will be valued at +30m within a couple of years if we now sell him for peanuts.

Saying Pellegrini is a better manager just because his Malaga side had a better chance of winning Dortmund in a mere two legged tie than Mourinho's team did is just pointless. Judging by your logic that's like saying QPR are better than Barcelona because they got 4 points from us this season in the league and we won Barcelona last year. Better to compare their times as Real Madrid manager and it's safe to say Mourinho did a better job there than Pellegrini did, although to be fair Pellegrini wasn't bad and his sacking was unfair back in 2010 but I guess you'll do what you got to do if the best manager in the world Jose Mourinho becomes available. And how exactly are City miles ahead of us? Sure, they have better strikers than us but for the AM's I would take Mata, Hazard and Oscar ahead of Silva, Nasri, Milner any day of the week, no doubt in my mind about that. Yaya Toure is better than any of our central midfielders but that's about all and the rest of their CM's are beyond shit. In defense they have Kompany, Nastasic and Zabaleta who are all great but the rest of them are average at best. We have Luiz, Azpilicueta and maybe Cole, who are top class and the rest of our defenders are better than City's defenders after the best three individuals. Cech is better than Hart and we also have Courtois waiting in the sidelines so it's fair to say our GK department is way ahead of City's. So yeah, they maybe better than us at a couple of areas but with Mourinho coming back Chelsea will be an attractive option for many of the players in the summer transfer window and with once again a lot of money available it's pretty clear things will improve before the next season starts. I honestly can't see a reason why Mourinho would be interested in Manchester City at all if there is a possibility of coming back to Chelsea.

Yep, can't really see either of them outsmarting Mourinho in matches between us and the Manchester clubs and that's already a huge advantage as far as the title race goes. Won't get that excited until we actually get Jose back though.

Yep, that's the way it should be done instead of doing a Wenger, as in replacing the outgoing stars with second rate players in hope of them becoming better in the future. Also, replacing Nuri Sahin with Ilkay Gündogan is definitely right up there with the deals you mentioned. Jürgen Klopp has done an amazing job in the past few years and after all these transfers it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone seeing De Bruyne becoming one of the best midfielders in the world within only a couple of years if he goes to Dortmund. Klopp's track record with these kind of deals should be the last wake-up call for the Chelsea board to realize how good this guy is and that losing him for peanuts would be a huge mistake.

That Bild article saying €15m with no options for Dortmund's players. Waiting for the official confirmation but good God, if that happens I can only wonder how anyone could possibly be that fucking stupid to first buy an unproven talent like De Bruyne for £8m and after he has finally broken through to the very top level sell him to one of the best teams in the world for pretty much the same price we initially got him for. That would make absolutely no fucking sense and whoever authorizes a deal like that should be lobotomized immediately. The club has had no problem spending £5m on nearly any potential world class player out there but so far there haven't really been anyone who has succeeded and the club have made a massive loss on deals like that and when we finally hit the jackpot they look like fucking it up too. As much as I rate KdB, I would be at least somewhat okay with a deal if it involved one of Dortmund's stars coming our way but €15m cash for a player of De Bruyne's ability would be one of the stupidest deals in the history of football, and that's saying a lot. If this happens, I will bump this thread every time he plays for Dortmund just like people are now bumping Sturridge's thread.

Just went by Redcafe and they honestly seem to believe the only reason behind Rooney's transfer request is money and they're already calling him a money grabbing cunt if he wants to join Chelsea. I assume they haven't heard Wayne Rooney is already paid at least £50k more than any Chelsea player and there's no way he could get any more here. Deluded cunts.

If that's true, then I'm afraid it's only a matter of the fee because Chelsea would have already given them permission to negotiate personal terms and therefore willing to let this deal happen. For fuck's sake I seriously hope we don't let go of this guy too easily, reading stuff about him going for less than €20m makes me sick. Not letting him go at all would of course be the best option but that's not looking very likely now so we can only hope for the best possible deal. Dortmund have lots of players our squad could definitely use so why won't our board press harder and try to get something good out of the deal for us too? Acquiring a player like Gündogan or Lewandowski would make our squad better than recalling De Bruyne would because we already have players who can play in Kevin's position but not a striker who's good enough and certainly not a midfielder who's as good as Ilkay Gündogan. First options are bullshit because the player can still choose to join another team, it's either an immediate swap deal with some money involved or Dortmund can shove this deal up their ass and we keep KdB.