OneMoSalah

No idea what shes playing at with that poem and the rest of the shit in the press conference re a lesson learned and her son and whatnot. Just baffling. 🤣 Headline is maybe right mentioning Cantona moment. Utter dross.

Porto were genuinely interested as well as an Italian team, can’t remember the name. Him going to Sporting only ever seemed to be touted on here - never seen or heard anything credible about them wanting him. Footballing department has a lot to answer for transfer/loan wise.

Yep. Even then, 5 years and some of these muppets like Mudryk, Noni, Jackson will still be not good enough for a team of this level. Or not for starting anyway. Poch likely saying 5 years because the ownership have always been talking about the long term though. And the sporting directors seem to be of that mentality. It’s a shambles from top to bottom.

We had that and all people did was moan. It was “boring” although under him our build up sequences and combinations were the best they’d been for years. Not to mention we would actually be able to play through a press pretty easily with Sarri as that last 4 months things really started looking promising. But I am not surprised he left either way, for whatever reason be it he wanted to go to Italy or Juventus or whatever, when your fans are protesting and turning on you like they ddi with him - why stay? Still always wonder what he would of done with Mason, Reece, Tammy, Fikayo in the squad because they certainly would of fitted his philosophy and that team. Then the likes of Werner, Ziyech & Chilwell the following season.

Can’t have admired him that much they fucking appointed Graham Potter ahead of him after getting rid of Tuchel. I’m not sure he goes to us, Liverpool or Barca and does particularly well, could be wrong but just don’t see it. Just think that managing in Portugal at one of these top teams isn’t a sufficient stick to measure a supposed elite manager on these days but lets see.

It’s a shame he doesn’t get that aggressive and in people’s faces when we don’t have the ball or he is involved in duels in games. Because if he could show that sort of energy in that side of things, he would be a top top player. Very much just like the much publicised Onana shouting at Maguire for United in pre season, it was clearly something for the cameras. Given our team and Enzo’s performances also, I don’t think he should be going out his way to be insulting or winding anybody up. Even if it were the heat of the moment which I can sort of understand, but again, just setting himself up for a fail if he goes and pulls another countless amount of below average games until the end of the season. Because he is coming off a very mixed/below average season for me. But suppose boys will be boys.

Wow. One man team. Nearly embarrassing stuff tonight though lets be honest. Big changes needed in the summer if we are to make real progress. And give Cole Palmer a 10 year extension on whatever wages he wants.

So probably a no. So Lavia, Nkunku, Fofana (is he still alive?), who else is fucked and out for the last games of the season?

So if we are using underlying metrics for players then what about Poch saying we would be fourth based on underlying metrics this season? You’re not going to convince anybody Mudryk and Noni are good players based on underlying metrics either. They are awful. People can see that with their eyes. Theres a reason they are bench players in one of the worst sides we have had in ages. Thats just further proof that underlying metrics are shite. Irrespectively of who’s to blame be it players or managers as a collective, the individual and collective performances is extraordinarily poor considering the value of the squad.

But is it though? It’s never as black and white as that. Do the players look like they are giving their all? To me they don’t. There is no fight within that group when things get tough. They crumble. Yes it is clear based on performances that we lack a lot of quality in certain areas but it looks like a good amount of them don’t care enough or aren’t up for it when games get tough. Poch is an issue on his own - the playing style is a mystery - but sacking him and appointing someone else of that level isn’t going to change anything. Not with this squad, we need to chop and change 5 or 6 players in this group as the group lacks quality, experience, leadership and ultimately people who will be demanding of their team mates. These lot are all pushovers & far too nice. Do you think at Liverpool or City or Arsenal that their players in the dressing room, never mind the managers, would have accepted how that Burnley game went? Not a fat chance.

Hardly as simple as that. Re the cup final - in ET Liverpool run over the top of us. Particularly in midfield. We just had to match/better them physically and in terms of intensity but we didn’t. Liverpool get a bit of momentum, smell blood and well we bottle it. Not as easy as saying it was to do with playing a high block, a low block, possession football or counter attacking football etc because either way, you still need to play with some intensity and physicality in all games regardless. For example, Atletico Madrid are one of these sides who play a low block and counter attacking style but they are a good physical side, very aggressive and play with intensity irrespective. And really, do you think that its much different from last season ? We had a naive group that looked so short of work ethic, desire, that sort of nastiness all top teams have a bit of and it hasn’t really changed again this season. We have moved on certain players from that group but a large % of the squad is still the same, particularly the lads who make up the £1bn investments over the summer and January windows. The players need to take a lot of responsibility and show the fans they have more about them. When their own manager is saying that the team misses something, be it heart or balls or the right mentality or whatever he said, that is extremely alarming. Or it should be for them. Imagine if Conte said that or Jose said that or Ancelotti said that about past Chelsea teams they’ve managed - you’d be worried. With this crowd, it doesn’t surprise me. A lot of them are soft, the squad sorely lacks real leadership and quality throughout. Poch isn’t the best manager out there either amongst other things which has its own problems but he isn’t the big reason as to why this group is struggling, the players are.

They should try performing first before pointing fingers though.

Rumours are some of the players want him sacked. Mental. Yes he’s done a shit job but a lot of the players also are in no position to want a manager sacked. We aren’t talking about a dressing room with the likes of Drogba, Lampard, Cole, Cech etc either. If theres any truth in it, they should be taking a long look at themselves.

Emma embarrassing herself last night. Citing male aggression for a manager arguing with a player then pushing her opposite number at end of the game…. Also who disagrees to play with a multi ball system 🤷‍♂️

But when they were here people were slating them. Someone was talking about cashing in on Kante for about 4 years straight too. Maybe they work for the club 🤣

Not a new figurehead we are needing, it is new OWNERS

I know its cliche but if your playing poorly at least try do the basics, show a bit of heart, run around for fuck sake. Yes the guy hasn’t had a good time here but it doesn’t take talent to run around, pressure the opponent, to try win duels, headers etc. Could say same about most. Enzo is another one who seems to think its ok to only show some sort of effort when we have the ball. Has no idea of whats going on around him when the opposition has it, constantly out of position and moves slower than my granny. Might as well write off next season as well, if this group is 75% the same as it is now we are doomed. Weak footballers. £1bn spent in 3 windows and we look so much worse for it.

Probably concede 4 to United next match. And 4 to Arsenal. We are an absolute joke to play against. Not a single player with anything about them bar Cole. Gallagher, Caicedo & Enzo softest midfield 3 in the league.

Embarrassing. Not one of them fit for the shirt bar Palmer. Poch also not cut out for it after being the best thing about us at the beginning of the season….

Because he was some sort of must sign player. Although we’d just signed 3 CMs all of similarish profiles/roles within the previous 12 months in Santos, Ugo & Caicedo. He was an absolute must sign, so we waited and didn’t make an offer for him until Liverpool did. Like with Mudryk-Arsenal. The club should adopt a policy: not to sign any players carrying any minor knocks. If they aren’t 100% healthy, don’t do it. Not hard.

By 2027? We will be midtable by then still so it won’t matter. Clearlake are a cancer they should sell up

Using it as a stick to beat him with as to why he shouldn’t “play the victim card” as you put it for someone who has suffered huge amounts of racist abuse though? Irrespective, across all types of sports there are people who have this sort of shithousery/nastiness in their performances which pushes them to perform and helps separate them from others. Max Verstappen in F1. Nick Kyrgios in tennis. Bellingham also alongside Vini in football. Countless others been and gone. Did you think the likes of JT, Ashley Cole, Diego Costa were all saints also? Theres 3 players who off the top of my head from here who had that same sort of shithousery or nastiness about them when they needed to and definitely helped them perform better. Mourinho, Conte, Tuchel as managers also intentionally did things that rubbed people up the wrong way to gain psychological advantages here and throughout their careers 🤔 Seems to be a reoccurring theme though, a lot of these people are all elite level sportsmen who have won or achieved a lot across their respective sports. Nice guys don’t win fuck all.

“I don’t condone racism but he is a shithouse on the pitch so he can’t have a victim mentality” this is a really fucking daft take 👍 We are talking about a 23 year old who has endured a lot of racism in various forms for the best part of the last 5 or 6 years since moving to Spain to play at Real Madrid. I mean there was an effigy of a doll with a Vini top on hanging off a bridge for fuck sakes. I am surprised it’s taken 5 years for him to break down publicly regarding the racism he’s endured, just shows how mentally strong he actually is. I don’t think it should matter what he does on the pitch, if he feels like a victim of racist abuse, it is because he has been and unfortunately, will probably continue to be as people are morons.

We will see but I still think people are expecting too much too soon from Lavia. I don’t think it was ever a reality that he would be starting ahead of any of those 3 and was likely going to be coming in to back up Moises perhaps. And even then, if he did, same old question as it is now. Would that MF 3 still not be lacking severely in creativity or someone who gets in and around the box to good effect? I mean even with Connor, it is lacking of sorts and he has probably been our best central midfielder for attacking output this season. Instead of going hell for leather in 2 windows and getting Santos, Ugo and Lavia (all pretty much fall into that same category as more defensively minded midfielders) we probably could have signed a more creative midfielder and a more experienced campaigner for the same money if not less.

Think the story was along the lines of Rickie Lambert and Jos Hooiveld went in after a training session and tried to get him to slacken up on the amount of running they were doing. In the end, he didn’t and actually made them run more the next time round. Which apparently “broke” Lambert - who then went on to play his best football of his career in the 18 months Poch was there. If its that clip which was off from BBC, it has been thrown about twitter and Reddit very much as a stick to beat Poch with regarding these injuries, which is wrong. Rickie Lambert later has gone on and still said countless times about how Poch was the best coach he’s ever worked with. Aaron Lennon did try and say Poch’s training maybe was behind our poor start this season - but because our players wouldn’t be used to the intensity and load of it. Which says more about how far off it we were last season also with 3 different managers in terms of preparation.