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Thanks a lot for the messages guys I'm celebrating it studying synchronous machines stability ......

I don't think Jose ever implied that he would part of his plans. He wasn't even part of the preseason squad. But he stayed so he would be considered homegrown in the future. But he's still very young, only 18, and has all the time in the world. He can go on loan next season to get experience. Meanwhile, he's doing well with the U21 and in the youth CL.

No whips or gags, but I guess it'll do for now....

Just one question: If Pogba was just another hyped up youth player, why did his move to Juvenile cause so much media attention? Surely if, let's say, Lewis Baker moves to Juve now, utd fans probably won't even hear about it. Do you really think that Pogba and Wilshere are where they are just because they were given first team matches? They are there because they are incredible talents and were good enough to be with the first team. Nathanial still isn't and it should be proof enough that he's struggling for minutes in the championship, how do you expect him to get enough minutes for him to develop properly here?!

I think it's all about context. If you're sharing a laugh with a friend, or even a total stranger and he shares your sense of humor then it's all good and dandy. After all, this place is about having some fun. But if the receiver of this banter is genuinely offended, then'st it's not a joke anymore it's an insult. Fine margins, like you said.

I hope those aren't the same sources as the ones for our kits this season

Well they'll definitely need to make a lot of changes to make that work. But if it did happen it would be a real blow for us. He's the only CM that fits our current system!

Settle down? I'm not even upset. I'm genuinely having a laugh about it!

Don't tell me, your imaginary mates at the Bridge think the same, right! Put me on ignore? Yeah right! You've been trying your best to get on nerves for months...admit it, you ca't live with out me!

Yeah, but a jump from Xavi and Iniesta to Rami, might be a bit too big of a leap for them! You're they have been trying to introduce a new style like Robguima said, but Rami is just too different and would struggle to fit in, imo. Would be such a shame if Rami makes the mistake that Mascherano and Song made.

LOL, yeah whatever makes it less embarrassing for you. BTW, I do love how you completely ignored the part about you saying that he was, last season, already better than Mikel and Ramires. That one was a classic!

Why would Barca want Rami? I would understand Real, but Barca?! I mean can you imagine Ramires trying to play tiki-taka with his passing ability? That would be hilarious to watch!

Of course not! He'll obviously be at the 2014 WC with the England squad because he's already better than Mikel and Ramires like you predicted last season

Feel like killing the journo who reincarnated this Falcao to Chelsea bullshit!

Alright, this is getting out of hands. If you two can't stand each other, then just put each other on ignore.

Pogba has been one of the highest rated prospects in the world from even before he joined utd. Anyone who follows youth football in England "rated him exceptionally high". Regardless of who "rates" who, Jack's ability on the ball at the age of 18 is in a different world than Chalobah and Pogba's physical presence and ability to influence the game was way ahead of Nathanial when he started playing for Juve. And Jack had a season in the PL which is an entire different universe than the championship. Top teams never wait for anyone. If you expect a team like chelsea to not buy a player for a position they need because they're waiting for a youth player to develop then you're living in fairyland. The suggestion that Chalobah, let alone Ake, are better than MVG is just ridiculous, with all do respect. That's like saying Tod Kane is already better than Azpi! Marco is on a different level technically and tactically, not to mention his experience at a much higher level. Arsenal didn't "wait" for Wilshere; they had the likes of Song, Fabregas, Ramsey..etc but he forced himself into the team just like Pogba did at Juve. Youth players will only get into a team if they are better than the available options for the team and good enough to be part of the team. That's why Wilshere and Pogba got into Arsenal and Juve and that's why Nathanial is on loan.

One problem: Nathanial is no where near as good as Wilshere and Pogba were when they started playing for Arsenal and Juve. Plus, Wilshere had to be loaned to a PL club and shine there to get a chance with Arsenal while the situation in the Serie A is completely different from the PL when it comes to youth promotion. It made absolutely no sense for Nathanial to stay, especially with MVG around who plays the same position and is only a couple of years older. Had he stayed, everyone would be criticizing the club for ruining his development by not loaning him out to get game time.

Because he's a player who's style I really admire. I just love his physical presence all over the pitch and his passion, not to mention his incredible shooting technique.

Unfair. RVP has a much better touch than him

I think Pogba is physically better than Witsel and obviously has a much higher ceiling. But Witsel is tactically much better due to his experience. I'd expect Pogba to be worth twice as much as Witsel because of all the potential he has. But then again, I'm biased when it comes to Paul.

Happy Birthday! @DJames, wanted me to give you this:

Not as much WBA did, but they'll keep men in their half and rely on long balls. We've been suffering against teams that play long balls because Jose's system is to suffocate the opposition on the wings which leaves a bit of space in the "hole". Surely Big Sam will realize that they are the best team to take advantage of this. The solution on our part might be playing JT a few yards in front of the rest of the back four like we did against Villa.

Fair enough. That's your opinion. About the definition of racism, we discussed it another thread. This post summarizes my view: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/7709-the-pub-discuss-anything/?p=797587

Defensively, yeah. But he's rarely in the opposition half because he doesn't trust his left foot on the ball. I wouldn't mind him him against a team that will attack but we can't be that narrow again against a team that is coming to defend. It was just a knock. IIRC he was available for WBA.