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Algeria have to be the strong favorites, though, especially with Nigeria not qualifying. Although, I fear for the organizing of the tournament after being moved so shortly before its start. Poor organization usually shuffles all the cards for "non-footballing reasons".

Can't see it, but I'm biased. I have a thing against Lebanese women!

She's in her late thirties (12 years older than him!) and shallow as f*ck. I'll never get what he sees in her...

I don't even know what 'terrorist' means, so if that was meant as a provocation, then I will have to disappoint you. But that group gad the backing of the majority of the Lebanese people, does that make us all terrorists? Give me a definition of "terrorist" then we can discuss this point further. Regarding Rice's words, we both know what she meant, there's no point hiding behind our fingers (like I said, I don't like 'shy debates'). The "new middle east" that was defeated in 2006 was reincarnated through the so-called Arab spring and has yielded success in certain areas. Too bad Frankenstien got loose on the village and is coming back after its creator... Yes, like I said, it's the so called 'balance of terror'. Yes, innocent people will occasionally die, this is a war! But it can succeed in stopping the death of ten if not a hundred times more people on the other side as it did in Lebanon. Are suicide attacks or car bombs better? Suggest to me an effective way of resistance that is less like to kill civilians and I'm all for it. If the Palestinians could affect the existence of Israel then you would not have been occupied and terrorized by it and hence they would have had no reason hate it, but then it wouldn't exist! It's a "self-destructing" question that doesn't have an answer. Yesterday's 'operation' only achieves more hatred and tarnishing the image of the Palestinian case. I was clear of that since the beginning. I am talking about rocket launching, not barbaric attacks on unarmed civilians. To me? It's just some building. But to millions it is a symbol to something they believe in and because of that it is being used by Israel as a sure-proof provocation. And I was arguing that people of other faiths have been considered as martyrs in the same manner even for the same cause here. Maybe I'm not getting your point here. Can you elaborate more, please? So is the peaceful coexistence of two states. Why? I think you've guessed my faith my answers above.

Our fans should definitely start that chant at the next game!

Yes, religious people tend to be touchy about their beliefs and do crazy stuff like spout bullshit propaganda about other religions and kick millions of people out of their land and houses and kill tens of thousands of them because they think their god gave them that land. It's super weird...

He must be heart-broken, but that is good for us. Salah's Egypt did not qualify either so our squad won't be weakened in Jan.

@lucio, your post is not politically related and does not really add anything to the discussion here except the risk of someone getting very insulted. I respect your opinion but we can't have such a post that can be viewed as incredibly offensive by SO MANY people in here. I'm sorry, but I have removed it.

Dude, don't make me dig up the countless times you've magically disappeared after me, Stingray or FB genuinely address one of your posts and you cannot come up with an answer. I haven't made a single posts insulting Jews or Judaism while all your posts are attacks on Islam using very reliable YouTube videos. I think it is very clear to anyone who is spouting propaganda in here. Yes it is, actually. "Thousands of Palestinian rockets" that kill 2 Israeli civilians but force a stop to the attacks on Gaza are a more moral than a single Israeli shell on a school full of refugees that achieves nothing except the killing of tens of them. Fuck off! Go read before you debate anything. I have relatives who were killed and detained by Israeli forces. My own home village had one of two torture centers in Lebanon. I don't know to prove anything to you. If you know nothing of the issue, don't debate it. Haha. Says the guy defending the killing of thousands of civilians in this past year alone and a supporter of the "human shields" crap! THAT is rich! No, the Palestinian-Israeli struggle. Have you ever read the charter of the Lebanese communist part or the PLO who gave countless martyrs fighting Israel and were the first to do so, lots of them Christians? Spout all the shit you want about why the resistance is fighting Israel, and I'll only respond with this link to anti-Zionist Rabbis with Hezboullah leaders in the south of Lebanon: http://dailystar.com.lb/News/Local-News/2012/Apr-02/168930-rabbis-in-surprise-visit-to-south-lebanon.ashx#axzz3JY5p86BG Ask the Christians who died fighting against Israel. Yeah, the modern Jihadism that was first created by the UK and US in Afghanistan to fight against the Soviet Union. That is not a secret nor a conspiracy. Neither the US nor the UK have ever even tried to deny that because it was VERY publicized at the time. It was no secret operation, it was even voted on in the US congress. Learn your own history FFS! I won't respond to attacks on my country from someone living in the country with the lowest percentage of believers that global warming is a scientific fact and the highest percentage believers that WWE is real Especially when it is as ignorant as calling Lebanon a "Muslim country" when we have 18 different sect and half of our population is Christian and when we've always had pro-Israel political parties and certainly anti-Palestinian, opinions that I am exposed to and debate everyday. I KNOW that I won't have to debate you much longer in this thread as you will no doubt vanish after a few posts like you always do. My advice to you is read more and watch less YouTube and foxnews...

Incorrect. The 2006 war was on the surface because of the continued imprisoning of Lebanese people in Israeli prisons and Hizboullah kidnapping two Israeli soldiers to trade them with the prisoners. Looking deeper it was a US war started as the "labor for the birth of the new middle east" as Rice put it. They can't get assurances that the rockets will stop because the rockets are a direct result of the Israeli occupation and the daily atrocities committed by it. Withdrawing is not enough. The only way to stop the rockets is to make the Palestinian people (not parties, not militias) not support the launching of rockets and that is achieved by giving them a proper free life. That is besides the point. The dome is there so it needs to be factored in when talking about the launching of rockets. On any account, the dome intercepts mostly the long range rockets, i.e. the undirected ones, plus the rockets fulfill their purpose when they are launched. Their aim is to trigger the alarms and scare people, not to kill as many civilians as possible. Means absolute nothing when Israel can and have always stopped the existence of a Palestinian state while the Palestinians cannot (and probably never) stop the existence of the Israeli state. All bullshit political statements. Israel wants to appease the 'international community' and views of it while the Palestinian leaders want to make meaningless political slogans. That's hardly proof of anything. History is full of people and groups of all different faiths volunteering to die for what they believed is the greater good. What you achieve is enough pressure from the Israeli citizens on their leaders to force them to put a halt on their daily terrorizing of Palestinians and their plans to occupy Al Aqsa and build new settlements. It the difference between "Meh, another Lebanese shepherd was shot dead" and "Why are we provoking them, we don't want to open the Lebanese front again." I don't. The only hope for peace is a single state where everyone lives as equals regardless of religion or ethnicity. Now THAT is Utopian!

Well, you obviously know your situation best, all I can say is at least try to find and learn from the experiences of people who have been in similar situations. I'm sure you can find many online. I'd also suggest you discuss it with your girlfriend and any close friends/family you are still in contact with back home. Good luck.

I'm so sorry for your loss, sweetie. Stay strong *hug*

Don't be silly. Discuss it with your doctor.

I think clearing your phone browser cahces and cookies might solve this.

You are most welcome, but that does not affect the manner of the discussion here. At least, I hope it does not. I never like 'shy' discussions where everyone is lying about what they truly believe. No offence to your principles, but they are very easy to say all the way from Scotland. I live in Lebanon and I remember a time before 2000 when the Israeli occupation army and its agents here would kidnap anyone they want, kill whoever they want, take whatever land they want and no one in Israel or the world would give a shit. Only local news would report it. The rockets of the Lebanese resistance created what is called "a balance of terror" and now they don't dare make a single step inside Lebanese land. So, the rockets are an effective and relatively less violent way of resistance. Go live a single month in the shoes of a Gazan, a West Banker or even an Arab Israeli, then you can judge those who fire the rockets. By the way, most of the Hamas rockets (short and medium range) now are directed ones. Only the long range ones are not. This is evident in this last battle in the summer where the majority of targets were barracks and military structures. That is why only 2-3 Israeli civilians were killed compared to about 70 soldiers (one of the civilians killed was even inside a military structure IIRC). The ones that have less advanced weapons that are not directed are the other hundreds of factions of the Palestinian resistance. Because it is very easy to say it is only Hamas when it gives the whole resistance a certain Muslim extremist image. But that is not correct and many of the factions are secular. The struggle has absolutely nothing to do with either Islam or Judaism. Btw, regarding the "philosophy of death", I'm not one to defend it, but you should really read and learn more why those people want to die. It is a mentality that has been greatly tarnished by modern Jihadism created by the US and UK, but originally, these people die to create a better life for their children and loved ones. It has absolutely nothing to do with religion and some of the earliest people who did suicide operations against Israel were secularists. In Lebanon, for example, members of the communist and Syrian social parties. Regarding the charters, it would be very easy to bring up on the other hand the charter of the Lykude party that says that there can never be a Palestinian state, but that is not the point. Talking about charters, like trying to drag religions into the struggle, only means to distract from the main events and issues. I remember you said you've studied history? Then you should know who the aggressor is and who the oppressed are. Finally, there can never be peace until Palestinians are regarded as human beings with equal rights as the Israelis. Btw, everything that @MrExcalibur100 says in this thread is islamohobic propaganda as has been proven numerous times in this very thread. Kindly go back to wherever you disappear to whenever someone fully addresses your 'points' in this thread and you fail to come up with an answer

On a different note, anyone watched Bossingwa mark Messi out of the Portugal vs Argentina match like it was 2012?

They have good individuals, they've always produced quality players as far as I can remember (not talking about history because obviously they were one of the pioneers in football), but their problem has always been playing well collectively and getting those players to play as well as they do for their clubs.

What language is he talking in?!

Both teams playing their C teams, not even their B. Boring, uneventful game with no quality. EDIT: Germany just scored with an assist from the terrible pitch. That about sums up that match! Just 4 more days.....

Still better than Spain vs Germany. That one's an absolute snoozefest!

How shit must you be for even Gibbs to score against you!

Well, as long as it's only borderline!

At least Pep won't have defended against the machesters!