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Why would there be outrage? It'd make Moyes look like an idiot for saying he's injured.

This. Then picks up a "soar throat" afterward that'll keep him out of the Swansea match.

Tomorrow isn't it?

It would be really tough to swallow at first but if Jose bought an absolutely top class defender to replace him AND we milk Baraca dry I can accept it. It would surely be upsetting to the likes of Oscar and Ramires who seem like his best friends if he left. David is the one who probably convinced Oscar to move here and made him feel comfortable when adjusting to a new country.

How do you block people on this forum?

Whilst it will be a disappointing transfer window, to say you'll have lost faith in the best manager in the world before we've even started the league campaign is ridiculous.

I don't think he'll be left out. I think he starts that Swansea game. If, say, he picks up another "injury" after the England match then it's happening. But I'd say he plays some role in their first match.

I've been one of the more optimistic people here about this happening but I've just about run out of faith.

Player swap is absolutely out of the question. Cash only or no deal. I'd go to £40m and no more for him if I were the board. Maybe a smudge higher if Jose desperately pushes.

It would completely turn ALL fans against him. Right now since he's been so quiet many of the supporters don't actually believe he's unhappy and wants out.If he hands in a transfer request and makes it official and publicly known, the fans will be in a frenzy and demand him out of the club. It would hopefully make Moyes' life so miserable with the constant questioning and negative energy around the club that he'd just sell him to us.

I find it extremely hilarious when I see United supporters say the we should be embarrassed about having our Rooney bids rejected after being told he's not for sale. At the same time they make truly laughable bids of £25m and £30m for Fabregas who's playing for his boyhood dream club and has ZERO desire to leave.We're bidding for a clearly unsettled and want away player.

Bet you all those Manc bastards will be getting in his ear at every opportunity, GNev included.

I can see it now... "Wayne Rooney signs 3 year extension with Manchester United."

What sane person would choose Arsenal over Chelsea if given a choice? We have a better manager, better squad, and are guaranteed CL footy this season. Wayne would probably rather just stay at United than take a big step down to Arsenal.

Unfortunately I agree about him not leaving now. Really, really hope Jose and the board are just secretly scheming and have something else going on.

Torres sold to Spain, Ba in part exchange for Suarez. We fuck United over by taking possibly their most valuable player, we offer Liverpool an end to their Suarez nightmare by giving them a nice chunk of change whilst providing them with a striker in Ba so they won't have to worry about searching for a replacement, and the best part...we fuck Arsenal in the ass without lube by taking their #1 target. Literally picture perfect. If only it were that easy...

Two, maybe three players would need to be sold obviously, but yeah.

Could you fucking imagine, mate!Jose would have the cheek to bring both in too. We'd literally be unstoppable in the league. If only!

The reputable Raphael Honigstein on twitter says its basically down to Gustavo agreeing personal terms.Really annoyed if they get him on the cheap.

£40m + Ba for Suarez. Leave these assholes with an unhappy and unsettled Rooney.

Rooney needs to hand in a transfer request as soon as he gets back from international duty. Before the league season starts. If he doesn't, just get fucking Suarez. Unlike Rooney, I don't see any way Suarez pulls on a Liverpool shirt again. He can be had in my opinion. Yeah, it'll upset some people here but once he starts winning us games in the league and helping us advance in the Champions League people will come around.

There wasn't a Man City side worth a couple hundred million £'s then or a United side with RvP.We had a side with players scoring from all over the park last season and we weren't close to the title. RvP was proof last season that a top class striker can win you the league. He papers over so many of United's cracks its unbelievable.

Like fuck we don't need him. We may come very close to the title without him or any new world class forward, but of we want to win it I can't see us doing it with our current ones. Moyes is just gonna keep spewing the same line about not wanting to sell him until Rooney puts in a transfer request. Grow some fucking balls and do it already! He doesn't and its not happening. End of.

Probably. Don't think he really improves them very much to be honest.I'm more concerned about Valencia relinquishing the #7 shirt. Could it be for you know who?