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Or that might be because we don't have another defensive midfielder except for Romeu who is very young and hasn't been the same since AVB departure?.

Don't get my post twisted when i mentioned Zidane and Dembele, because fuck me i should be shot dead if i even compared with those two. I was just talking about the criteria of them type of players. And no, Ramires has sparks where he can make a great pass, or cross, like the cross to Drogba against Napoli when we went 1-0 was just amazing. But come on he will pull that off once out of 10 wont he unfortunately. And the other 9 crosses, well about 6 of them wont make it on the pitch. Okay slight exaggeration but he is very inconsistent with them type of things... well technical abillity. We can't have a good pass now and then, we need that consistent and reliable player in the deep, Ramires will never be able to take that on. But i do believe he can establish himself a place in this team and get better. I wrote Ramires off last season, i did joke about selling him with the pictures, but i did think at first he should be sold or dropped. The thing what's so special about Ramires, is that he's so damn adaptable, i thought he would only have 2-3 decent games in DM as it's not really his place, but fuck he's gone out there and done it. He can do the job pretty much anywhere and still be effective, okay fair enough he was dull on the right wing but he still done decent and worked hard.

Mikel has some good things, his passing is brillaint, but he's not that consistent at it, like the Juventus game for example when he kept giving the ball away on simple passes. Last season under AVB his passes where fucking brilliant, he was pulling the strings just by simple passes, like against Laverkusen when we won 2-0 or 3-0 can't really remember, he was surrounded by about 5 players then he would chip it up for a perfect pass towards Mata, and then Mata, Anelka, Torres are up against two people. He does have a nice first touch, he's a good safe player, but he's not the player i want on my team when the other team have the upperhand, or when they are on the counter or attack, fair enough the counter he's always going to struggle as he lacks pace. However the best way to describe Mikel is really good on the ball, poor off the ball.

Ramires can be bad when it comes to technical skills, like he's never been a gifted passer or crosser or anything. He can take players on with pace and then pass the ball, but he's not Zidane or Dembele who are very good midfielders at doing that. You always need that deep passing player, this is my opinion although i have faith in ramires, i realistically think we will need two new DM's, could be wrong but that's what i think.

Sorry mate missed your post, but i think it's fair to say when it comes to a DM, Sandro and Tiote are on another level than Mikel and Ramires. Though Ramires and Sandro are actually very similar, i do rate Sandro more at his duty. But Ramires has done very good. However i don't want both of them in the double pivot, cannot be too similar. I think what we need is someone who covers a lot more and has much better positioning, Tiote and Sandro don't do that, they are more ball winners, but are very good at it. Ramires seems to be our ball winner who gets about the pitch. However Mikel seems totally useless in the midfield and is usually the fault in the midfield. Stats will not convince me, it's a team game, different team you get different outcomes for each player it's a fact. However you might laugh yes but someone who covers for example is Gareth Barry, yes i know he can be quite mediocre, but he does do his job very well, that's why City can bomb forward all the time. Okay now look at there game today against Spurs, Spurs where 1-0 up, AVB stubborn bastard still plays highline, even though Mancini has brought on Kolorov and Maicon, so there's more options for Yaya Toure and David Silva to pass too. So Gareth Barry stays back and covers, and he's really good at it, that's why he plays for Man City still. He's a vital player for them, even though he's an average tackler and gets skinned at times. Mikel does nothing but stand there, leave his man unmarked which people wave off all the time. His positioning worries me at times, i think we need that player to cover, although Ramires can be useless when it comes to passing, but he has gotten better, i have faith he can still become a better player for us.

It's actually shocking how bad this forum has gotten, you can't even post a point without getting told to grow up. Grow up for what exactly you mindless prick?, fact of the matter is i never said anything abusive in my previous post, nothing at all, and I'm getting told to grow up because i'm describing a player and his performances 'appropriately'. That makes no sense what so ever, forum has gone downhill, never used to be like this.

It's Torres's last chance, and he blew it. My uncle who has always been a liverpool supporter his whole life, kept saying to me you can't say he's finished if you haven't played to his advantages yet, and now we have, and now he says he is definitely finished. He doesn't make any use of space, no confidence in him, no reliability, most of Torres's goals aren't even equalises or winners, they mostly come from when we are winning 2-0 or something. Not to undermine his goals but it's a harsh reality when you look at it, he's a poor player and it's time to get rid of him. And you are spot on, it isn't RDM's fault, Tomo summed it up perfectly, we haven't played like this in like 2 seasons now, and this time we actually deserved to win easily. Just a shame we conceded. Title is unrealistic this season for me and always has been, yeah of course i had that hope we can do it and that's why I was so gutted when Liverpool equalised. No matter, lets just go on to next game and try to get as much points as we can and focus on other competitions.

He hasn't played a game yet except for Wolves, and people are already saying yep he's a squad player for sure. In pre season he was better than Hazard, his dribbling was class, he looks like he has more ideas than hazard going forward. He has to start playing games.

How many more excuses to make for him?, I've had plenty of times to come in here and critizise him but I've never, I've actually been patient and give him some time to see if he can be useful this season. But he's still not good enough, really hope he is ridden of at the end of the season and get a new player there. He offers nothing upfront either, this maybe unimportant for a DM, but really 160 premier league matches and 0 goals?. Not that it should matter but most fulbacks have a better record than that. Doesn't really fit our system or anything, DM's are meant to be the most consistent, and a few decent games in a row isn't enough for me.

Where the fuck is Marko Marin?, it's getting pathetic now, i swear if he doesn't play next game I'm getting worried.

Fernando Torres 56 games 11 goals Any of the Torres fanboys can just fuck off, they have no arguement.

That's because he's an awful player, but it's not like anyone will listen is it.

Yep, we will lose this. Title was always unrealistic fellas, we aren't consistent enough, we can't grind out results, especially against top teams. Expect another loss against City too, then we play Everton and Fulham who always take points off us, say no more. Why is it always november... i hate that fucking month.

Get in there!, cheers Terry, but us having 36 percent possession really is disgusting.

Tomo since i can seem to rely on your posts, what do you predict in the match?.

I think you all know what i predict this match. I'm way too superstitous for my own good, well lets just say i am shitting myself and hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

He wasn't playing for a point, he was playing to win. But he was stupid, he's meant to be one of the greats, but he's got no logic. You don't play highline against City, especially when they where getting through on goal about 5 times, and he still insisted on playing with it. City got what they deserved to be honest as much as i hate to say it. AVB deserved to lose, but he wont learn. Don't get me wrong It's not that bad being way too delusional, like Alan Pardew is when he tries to outplay every team, but at least even Alan Pardew has some sense to change things in order to win the game. AVB is just stubborn that's all it is, this is the man who played highline against ARSENAL... when we had Terry and Ivanovic centrebacks, and fuck me we all know how that turned out. The only time AVB ever altered the system, well to be honest it's believed that the players done it themselves, is against City, when we ended up coming back and winning them 2-1.

Now we have to beat Liverpool or we go behind.

For fuck sake, once again.

Bale did all that run, and then Dempsey with the worst off the ball movement ever, standing behind the defender... how the hell is Bale meant to square it.

Sandro is a really good player, good defensive midfielder. I would have him in this team, though he would need to stay back a bit more, but i do like how he's a high ball winner.

AVB is an idiot, way too stubborn for his own good and it's cost him once again, just like he was with us. Playing highline against Arsenal and Napoli and getting embarrassed. And he's doing the same against City, probably the most creative team in the premier league who play with two fast skill full strikers against 35 year old Gallas and slow Caulker. The man really is stupid.

We are getting too far ahead of ourselves, McEachran is not ready by any means. He will make it, he's too good not too, but he's still only just 19, McEachran wont be playing for us till a few more year. I think Middlesbrough will get promoted, and if so, then i think McEachran should play there for another season in the prem, Mowbray loves him, he builds his team around his passes, something Middlesbrough have never had in ages. Everytime McEachran plays, plays like Ledesma and Emnes play a lot better, because he always manages to get the ball up the field to them two, they are Middlesbrough's skillful and flair players. That's why they've been winning a lot of games, however one thing I've still noticed, Josh gets pushed off the ball, he still needs to get more phsyical. But he still needs more time, don't expect him to be at Chelsea next season.

Believe me i hear nothing but good things about him everytime he plays, he's conceded a penalty there and gave the ball away what lead to a goal and not one of my friends have pointed that out once.

He is the backbone of Middlesbrough, they are playing now, the tickets were halfprice and i was going to go but i decided to buy football manager 13 instead so i have to save up my money for the rest of the month. People are expecting so much, he's playing every game for a title contender side, and people are asking why hasn't he had an assist or goal yet. Although he has gotten one assist now. Still though I'm glad what Mowbray is doing with him, he needs to play a lot deeper and get better at it, only chance he has getting into our team in my opinion.