Kojo

That's really unnecessary. Oh and you think my post is that one dimensional, that i seemed to forgot players are actually people. Well if i was that stupid i wouldn't have the brain to go on a forum in the first place.

Yeah yeah, you're probably typing that with a black eye,,, nerdeskke

I can accept opinions, but I'm hearing this nonsense too much. This give time, and all this. People like Mikel have already had enough time and they've always been shit, and i tell you what proves they've always been shit is the fact how you get those people who dig up old articles and say how all his work is overlooked, players who have had that type of stuff done to them are shit. If a player is that good he doesn't get overlooked, it just doesn't happen and it's never happened. It's time to just move on and let go really, Ramires was brutal, however i still think he's good enough to remain in this team. Obviously buying will solve our problems because we will actually buy good players. So you're saying if we didn't buy De Rossi he would be shit?, and no way near as good as Mikel?, wouldn't happen. But what also wouldn't happen is that we wouldn't get De Rossi sadly, as he's too loyal to Roma.

Woah, so much bull shit i can't take it all. You really must of got bullied at school seriously, that shit ain't normal one bit. I don't mind speaking in a better sense because you know that's good, but that's just trying to sound clever, get over yourself clown and know who you really are and most of all know your place. Because you aren't shit, you could get shot and die just like everybody else so shut your cake hole mr I'm so superior to everyone else.

Quit the delusions, there's no chemistry in this, get some new fucking players. I never said get rid of everyone, but people like Cole need to move on, David Luiz especially. I wont want three out, Ivanovic is a maybe I'm not so sure about that one. That's not because he's poor though that's because i don't believe he will fit the required system but who knows. I'm sick of all the excuses, we lack so much it's uncanny it really is. Big teams don't get outplayed like that, and I'm dreading the City game, Luiz will get fucking murdered.

Well anyone can just press a button, because that's all you seem to be doing, because your posts are bull shit anyway.

Your post makes no sense, but i tell you what does make sense. The fact you cannot read, when i previously stated that i wont deny i am pissed, however this post isn't a knee jerk reaction. The funny thing is how can it be a knee jerk reaction, the match finished like 6 hours ago. Plus i had to copy and paste all my writing a few hours after because the forums server was down for a while, so i wouldn't of posted it then if i had gotten over it. But that's not the point because it's not a knee jerk reaction in the first place, so go take your stupid accusations elsewhere, perhaps the pub as your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic.

True, but Cole is the most experienced in this team, if he was this good leftback everyone goes on about then we wouldn't have this problem. He was shite last season, always making mistakes, the worst player in defence in the 5-3 defeat against Arsenal. But no one speaks about that, everyone talks about his performances in the big games. Well i want more consistent performances, and Cole is just playing rubbish constantly. Sure he's just came back from injury, but he didn't just come back from injury all those other shit games.

Yes you speak to rmpr ON MY THREAD, so if you're going to be an arse to me, then please go before you over hear the bell when i talk.

If you're going to post idiotic things like that, just leave the thread, because i want a good debate, not some mindless crap like most of your posts.

You're wrong, it's not his fault it's the rest of the team, they aren't working hard enough.

Very good today?, did you watch the game?.

Ashley Cole is incredibly overrated, it makes me angry when he makes mistakes no one has a pop at him, and he's playing consistently poor. We just got outplayed by Juve, there's no exaggeration, it's not good enough. I'M TIRED OF THE EXCUSES!, we keep getting smashed and controlled by teams in the centre. But we keep getting these mindless excuses all the time, yeah well you gotta get some good ones if we keep losing like this.

Get off it old man, you don't know what to do with yourself anymore, you sure you can handle going on this all by yourself?

How about you just avoid my thread all together and not post in it at all. That would be nice.

Instead of starting my own little rants in the player section lets discuss all this in here. Okay we've just been absolutely played off the park, we are no top team, no top team gets outplayed like that. It doesn't happen. Juventus were playing at a slow tempo and getting through our team, no one was breaking up play in the middle, there second strikers and inside players like Vidal could come in as well as they please. Defence for me is getting a joke, Terry out we are fucked. David Luiz is becoming a joke, i think it's time we sell this one, he is clueless, Cahill looks average but i want him in this team regardless. The midfield is really starting to bug me though, Ramires is now starting to show recently that he's not good enough. Almost everyone in the Juventus midfield can pass, and Ramires was just giving the ball away all the time. At least that's something Mikel can do, but he's no saint at it either. If anyone thinks the double pivot is good enough sort yourself out, really, because we just gotten out played completely. And i know what I'm expecting here, i expect people to pinpoint the blame on someone else, because everyone just thinks I'm a Mikel hater and my opinion him is therefor not valid. I loved how when Juventus lost the ball or when they couldn't get through they could pass it back to the defence, then the midfield then start again. But the sad part is, this barely happened, because they could get through most times. People who we should be getting rid of Ashley Cole, I'm tired of his inconsistency, he's becoming so poor and keeps leaking. I think it's time to let this lad go at the end of the season i really do. David Luiz, do i need to say anymore?, what a poor player, not good enough good bye. Ivanovic, I was talking about this before, if we are going to start this attacking system then he has to step down or leave, because he always ruins the attacking flow. Also he's one of the worst passers I've ever seen, the amount of times he has given the ball away with just terrible terrible passes is uncanny. But he wasn't so much of a problem today, however that's not my point. Mikel, not good enough, Vucinic just walked into our box, the defence had their hands full, where the fuck was he?, how many times does he do this?. He's never there to break up play, I've never seen any top team give the opposition so much time and space infront of their own box for the opposition to just pass to each other and pull strings. We have four fucking attackers, and we don't even gamble on getting the ball back?, what sort of shit system and shit idea is this?. I've at least seen Ramires get stuck in, Mikel is never even there for us to pass back, where Juventus could pass the ball back to Vidal or Pirlo in the centre and they restart play, Mikel is never fucking there. Ramires, for me he's not good enough in the double pivot, good squad player unfortunately that's all he will ever be for me, start a few games come on a few games. Has done good for us for the time being, but today he really met his match and it's happened more than enough times. Had a very bad game today for me, but the back 6 where really terrible. I'm not going to lie, I'm pissed off, very pissed, but this is no kneejerk stuff. I made this because i would like us to discuss our options here, can we seriously be thinking these players are good enough?, this isn't just one game this has been happening for a while, even when we win games we leak so much it's not even funny. So many mistakes, we are becoming as vulnerable as Arsenal, if not more vulnerable. I think our main problem though is the double pivot, that match against Attletico which was a disgrace by the way, we got completely out played and lost 4-1, which should've been 7-1 to Attletico at least. Falcao had so much space, but most of all for a team what plays with two DM's, the space between the midfielders and defence was disgraceful. I think we miss Lampard in his prime, i liked that system where we didn't get fucking dominated, Lampard always did have an underrated work rate, he always came back and done his job, no fucking way he should play in double pivot at all, but i miss his duty in the team. Our team is just all over the place, no organistation no nothing, just got a few clever feet from attackers and that's about it.

Not good enough, anyone tells me Mikel or Ramires are good enough, please go fucking sort your head out.

I'm giving him more time before i judge, a few more games. I had a dream we lost against Sunderland last night, that's nothing i know, but my gut just doesn't feel right about this season. I'm not being negative it's just when i look at the squad i see so much vulnerability in it, especially at the back and midfield. I know we wont contend for the title that's not the problem, my problem is i can see us having another failure season, one where we really under perform. It's been too long for that shit now, way too fucking long. God i fucking hate november.

Doesn't matter, as long as there's a lot of fuss about it, it adds more chance of him fucking off in my opinion.

Lots of reports saying Torres wants to leave Chelsea, great news.

2-0 win to Juventus or more. Don't even expect us to score, because who exactly can on our team?, we have no strikers and most of our other players couldn't finish their dinner. November really is fucking horrible for us isn't it, we never do good in this month, especially for the last 2 seasons running. Under Carlo we lost 3-0 to Sunderland and 2-1 to a terrible out of form liverpool, infact we didn't win once that month i don't think. Then under AVB that's when we started losing our games under him and when we wanted to get him sacked, because in December we had a huge turnaround and got 3 points at newcastle, beat Valencia 3-0 also. Thanks to the bid Drogs, but who the fuck do we have this time?, oh fernando torres?, yeah we will probably lose for the rest of the season with him in the team.

Finished that horrible long assignment, i swear i must've done about 30 thousand words. It's not really typing it up as I'm a very fast typer. It's learning everything from the screen, and my dyslexia doesn't help. Surprised i got two weeks to do it, it's mostly just a week. Them lazy ass teachers wont even read it anyway i bet.

Lukaku has done much better if anything, i honeslty thought he should've went to the Championship as i didn't think he could cut the premier league just yet, but damnit he's proved me wrong.

What I'm saying is, at least he was good at Boro, Brad Jones has been good at neither, all we had to do was place our shots and they would of went in.

At least Ross Turnbull was actually good at middlesbrough.