Kojo

The problem is theirs always a bigger picture. Look you guys are all good people on here, but the fact is we need people to make the hard decisions which others can't make. Yeah you may say Ollies methods are very drastic and I'm not even sure if I agree or not, but sometimes we need to make those decisions (the decisions you call bad and evil). Yeah true you can't help the way you where born, but it's also like serial killers can't help the way they are, most serial killers have horrible up bringings and they don't even know any different as they've had a completely different life to the average person. However we would wish the worst and most gruesome death on any of those serial killers no? But my main point is, theirs always a bigger picture, I understand you being a nice person n all and good hearted, but you can't just take a big dump on Ollies opinion like that.

Fantastic signing this, probably one of the most logical signings we can make, a player who will fight for the ball, chase down players and is really good at it. He is also a good footballer too! I just think this signing would be perfect, our squad is far too unbalanced as it is, we need players who can put in shifts.

Lets hope the board aren't the huge clowns we think they are, selling De Bruyne would literally probably be the worst mistake this club will ever make. By the way on a sidenote, I've been thinking about the debate we had over De Bruyne and the pivot, I'm now starting to agree with you. I've been watching more of his games, and coming to think of it, we would just have similar problems which we have now, defensive problems. If he was to come back here, it probably would be best to play him in CAM position, however that's only if we are playing 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 HE HAS to play in midfield.

Also the CL Final thing is in a way totally irrelevant to his actual consistent character on the pitch. Everyone in that CL Final had a good game, It was probably only Drogba who was very wasteful at times. Lampard had the game of his life in that CL Final, he must of made about 200 interceptions, especially in the box. Cahill and Luiz solid as anyone could ever be, and Kalou was bloody brilliant with helping Bosingwa out. Oh and how could we forget Ashley Cole who actually even got man of the match. So I don't know how you can even judge his performance there and say he has got it, when players like Bosingwa and Kalou where very good under Robbie, well Bosingwa had his moments i guess, great centre back though against Spurs and Barca.

Kalou was played here constantly, and more than enough, and by every damn manager. It was only AVB who actually dropped him, probably one of the few good things he did whilst he was here. World class skill set? what games you been watching like? If a player had worldclass skillset he would actually be able to pass a ball, he does have good passing, but not worldclass. That's just going too far, like yesterday he couldn't pass the ball forward at all, his long range passing was really off. This season started good? Okay this is my last reply on it, I've just read that again and I can't take it seriously at all, this season has been a shocker for him, and that isn't any of my exaggerations, he really has had a bad season. I mean come on for fuck sake he came on against United when everyone was playing good and all you Mikel fans where buzzing, simply because it's the only thing he has done all season and even then he was sloppy with his passing. He gets praised for such little things simply because there is nothing else to praise him for.

Well it's just the way we play, we seem to be going like a Barcelona style in the future, we have short passing fast tempo first touch football. Ba can't play in a team like that, if Ba was at United he would score a shit load, probably 20 a season, as you've seen he has a huge speciality in volleying a ball, but he scores most goals from wide, he's an arial threat. Like against Wigan was it? where he missed about 3 comfortable one on ones? Ba rarely scores through balls, just look at all his goals for Newcastle, about 90 percent of them are from crosses or lob through balls where he's hit first time. I personally just think we bought him as he was the only option and we didn't really want to spend much in the market. I can't see him doing well for us in the longterm, i might just be looking at this too blunt or negative, but that's what I think anyway.

Page 106 i sent you a reply saying that I was actually a Mikel fan at the beginning of last season, but he dissapointed me. And what the fuck where you on about saying nobody said he was great? are you kidding me, Alex and RyanDavidson say he's the best bloody midfielder in the Premier League, and that's literally. Everyone on here said Mikel was one of the best DM's last season, when we won the CL just read the god damn posts, It's only now people are starting to realise that he's not that good. Oh and stop with the 'If he was usless he wouldn't be here' logic, because Kalou was here for long enough and he wasn't even good enough for an average premier league team. However this forum is a rollercoaster, even though people might be saying all this now, all it takes is one decent performance from Mikel and then all the dick riders are back on here.

We still need to remember he's only young, huge pressure on him, I think he did well to be honest. Only thing what pissed me off was when he kept crossing it in the fucking air, City put on Lecott, so they had 3 big centre backs and Javi Garcia coming back into the box. And instead of trying to beat his first man Zabaleta he was putting it in the air for Ba who was marked by Lescott and Kompany... it was so stupid especially when we needed a goal. Those things are just common sense to be honest, and defenders especially who have to have some intelligence should be aware of these types of things. With the pace Bertrand has he could've tried to beat Zabaleta and just put a fast cross in or a fast ground cross, like a tripple X on fifa

Yeah he did, and I never said he was bad then, it was only in November when i started to see that Mikel just isn't ready for this team at all. Then Di Matteo came in and he was good then (but come on who the fuck wasn't?) But even then my opinion never changed on Mikel, and It hasn't since. The fact of the matter is, start of this season I said Mikel would dissapoint, WAS I WRONG? NO! Ask Muzchap, even he can remember how much I got slated, Mikel has dissapointed this season, and even the majority don't like Mikel now. Mikel in my opinion proven that he wasn't Chelsea material when he couldn't flourish when Essien was ruled out for 6 months, it was his time to show what he can do and he couldn't do it. He still put the same damn inconsistent performances in, and the poor form just kept happening, It's not good enough at this level, and he's not even a young player either. I love how you answer this post but not my other one i sent you, look if you want an asnwer go read that, I said i exaggerate, if you don't like it then tough, that's who i am. I wanted a proper DM in instead of Mikel, I actually really wanted us to get Cabaye and Tiote at the start of the season. Cabaye is one of the most underrated players in PL if you ask me, Tiote fantastic two seasons, this one he has been dreadful I'll admit, but he's had about a thousand injuries lets not forget.

Ollie you couldn't be anymore wrong here, this is why Toure just isn't a DM. Yeah sure yesterday he really turned up and played very well, but he's had at least 3 games against us where he just couldn't be arsed, and funny enough we won those games. 2-1 against City at the Bridge under AVB and Carlo just to name them off the top of my head. He also cost Man City against Ajax twice, cost them no qualification in the CL really, he's a very lazy player with an awful attitude. That's his downfall, besides that he has unbelievable abillity, he really can do just about anything. But yeah he's not really a DM anyway, he's more of an attacking player, he rotates a lot and stays up top.

In all fairness mate, It should be me saying this, I've been going on about Mikel since last season and saying he's not good enough for this team, even when 99 percent of the forum flamed me and called me a troll for it.

I said that in the match right after Nasri scored it, that Mikel was miles away, he may aswell of been playing striker. I've also said this a thousand times this season that when you watch goals, especially counters Mikel is nowhere to be seen, and people say he's not to blame for it. It doesn't matter who is to blame for it, just look at him, where is even the fucking passion to get his arse back there, worst covering I've ever seen.

I think he's actually gotten a lot better in terms of ability, not just matured to a degree. Like his passing and overall play seems to have improved and he can do a lot more regardless of just playing as a centre back.

Look I admire your respect for the other team, but how you can just say no complaints I just can't get my head around it. Aguero just drop kicked David Luiz and got no sending off? Zabaleta, Toure & Kompany made about a thousand fouls and no sending offs. Kompany sexually assaulted Torres in the box, and no penalty, and you have no complaints about any of it?. You know I didn't complain with the luck Nasri had, because they deserved to be at least 1-0 up before half time, but 2nd half I say we just about made that even, we played very well, City had the upperhand of the game overall maybe. But that doesn't mean there can't be any complaints, I am sick to death of stupid shit referees like Chris Foy refereeing these games, they are big games and they have fucking idiots refereeing them. Foy makes mistakes wherever he goes, that man is a disaster referee, yeah we've had trouble with Clattenburg and Webb but hell they've had some good games and are decent referees on average. Foy on the other hand, I've never seen a good game from that man ever.

I've just fell in love with this player, and even though I don't think this will end up a good buy in the long term, I just like him allround as a player. I love strikers who have that swagger when they score goals, Ba hits some of the sweetest and shit hot volleys I've ever seen, just like when Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink would crack goals from anywhere and put tremendous power on his shots. I used to love Jimmys goals, he would always fucking blast that fucker in, and Ba give him a good ball and he will twist or turn and BANG it's a goal, because that's... DEMBA... FUCKING... BA!!!!

Believe it or not I used to really like Mikel, like he was always one of the ones I would defend, but last season he just proved to me that he's not ready at all. Yeah sure I maybe I am harsh, that's just me, I am the bigget exaggarator on this forum. But he's not ready, and if he's going to be ready then it's certainly not now. Mikel in some sense does have some abillity in his locker, as I've always described him "good on the ball, bad off the ball". He is very good at keeping the ball, not many are as good as that for his weight, he rarely gets the ball took off him. But it's clear this season has been possibly his worst. He's been off form so many times, even his passing which has been a strong point for Mikel throughout his whole Chelsea career and It's just been shambolic this season, yeah once again i exaggerate but still you get what I'm saying, 'I aint happy'. My point is, and I've been making this point since november last season is that he's not ready, and will he ever be ready? I don't think so. But It's clear we have to get a new midfielder, yeah sure keep him in the team, but we need new midfielders we can't just keep holding onto him when he's playing bad.

Oh now you've done it, You've put Ramires into your arguement, here comes The Skipper to tell you that Ramires and Mikel are different players.

Mikel would actually be good if he wasn't so fucking shit.

Kompany should get done for sexual assualt, he was literally undressing Torres.

That's why i hate Kompany, dirtiest player in the league, he gets away with murder.

Aguero = CUNT

Who do you think you're talking to like that!? that's the worlds greatest producer that is!.

Why are we so shit against top teams?

Anyone see Mikel in the box? no he was miles behind about 7 city players.

Not enough work rate at all, no ones getting pressed, city have all the space in the world.