Kojo

Say what you want geezers Give it some time and Kojo will do the business again, everyone will be slating fuck out of Cahill for any minor tactical mistake he makes. Mistakes that don't even led to conceding, I can just already tell. This forum has to rely on slating some players, so I know what they've chosen.

Awful game from Rooney, this proves why we shouldn't get him. It's clearly obvious he's a terrible player, and that's why we should be going for the likes of Samuel Eto'o instead, buying young talent will win us the league, really hope we get Eto by next month. .

Eh? what are you on about? I only asked if I can buy a new face for myself that's all, I thought it would be suitable, one of those typical Lescott jokes. And Peace do you want to wipe his arse whilst your at it?

What you on about? I've even said he's a squad player, so assuming things. But yeah, I suppose I am the arse hole, of course I did deserve to get banned because I got away with a lot of things didn't I Tomo. Of course I would be stabbed in the back, I'm a dick head. FUCK YOU CAHILL YOU'RE SHITE MATE

It's not about Luiz, you're one of the ones that loves going on about Cahill, you've been doing it for over a season now. All the ones you're pointing out there Luiz are the only ones he's ever done, there not examples they are literally the only ones. We've seen the likes of Luiz get fucked over plenty of times.

Eh? How is that even an ability

Cahill is the new scapegoat then.

England are awful to watch. We've only got pace players for a counter attack, no good technical players at all. Kyle Walker? all he has is pace, what a rubbish player. Cleverly and Welbeck are just terrible. I love watching other teams play like Italy and Germany who are an all round team who can contain and destroy. All we can do is counter attack, just like that goal there. And because of that we wont win anything.

Didn't he reject Man City last season because he's loyal to Roma?

It doesn't seem that Mikel is going to play as much. With him staying I thought Mourinho would see him as a vital player. But these pre season games Van Ginkel seems to be the star man... Of course it's only pre season, however one would think why would a youngster who is hardly going to play get so many pre season minutes? I am definitely a critic of Mikel, but I really don't care if he stays or goes still. I still trust Mourinhos judgment on him and I will judge him during the season when he plays. If he can perform even if he's a squad player, I will be happy. However I don't think Mikel is going to be one of our starting midfielders.

@Tomo That's not down to him, that's down to AVB pushing him forward, AVB likes expandable attack from all areas, he's a stubborn person, regardless of how many goals he will concede he wont change that philosophy. Luiz would do the exact same if he were at Spurs now, AVB couldn't implement the system here, that's mainly due to the fact as we didn't have many good players that had pace and creativity. However Luiz had a really rough patch under AVB. He conceded a lot of goals for us because he was always trying to take players on rather than playing it safe. Look at the goal he conceded against Napoli when they went 3-1 up. Cavani was jumping right on him, and this is Cavani someone who likes to breathe down defenders necks, and he was trying to flick the ball over him and we all know what happened. There's not many replacements for Luiz though, Spurs isn't an option, we simply can't do business with them as we would have to pay in the regions of 40 odd million for Vertonghen at least. Mats Hummel is a similar player to them both, Hummels likes to play the ball and get the ball upfield rather than just clearing it, he adds a lot the attack. In form he is unbeatable, he wins everything, gets to everything and is the starter of most attacks whether that's counter attacks or just simple build up play. But we've all seen what he's like when he's not on form, last season for instance. He was so sloppy, he cost Dortmund so many times, I remember watching Dortmunds last game in Bundesliga, what an awful game he had then, he conceded one of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen. It's like he didn't give a shit about what he done, he didn't have to step in but he persisted on going in for a risky challenge. These sort of players are just very confident players. However even though some people think players like Hummels are overrated and aren't mature enough, under the likes of Mourinho they could be different. I mean put him in the Premier League alongside JT and I'm sure he could sort him out and he would want to play his football and be more careful in what he does. But replacements are going to be tricky to get, I don't just want a class centre back like Subotic, I want a defender who is a ball playing defender like Luiz is, who can contribute to the attack rather than being so basic. Adding more dimensions to the game opens up more ways to score goals rather than making it predictable, it can even make you unstoppable, little contributions lead up to massive ones.

I actually hope he stays at Liverpool, because I don't even want the slightest chance of him signing here.

Nobody is insulting...

HAHAHAHAHAHHA REALLY? LMFAO ZOMFG LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO OMG, SO FUNNY MATE SO FUCKING FUNNY THAT

I've had corny shits after a sunday dinner, but I've never seen anything as corny as this.

You signed up 6 days ago, give it a rest kid.

What are you even doing here? All you're doing is starting arguments in every thread and I've seen you call people names at least 3 times now. And that's in the Wayne Rooney thread alone. Just go back to redcafe or something eh?

If you're saying what I think you are then this is a stupid post, you say respect each others opinions then say I'm stupid for not agreeing. You and that other United supporter should go sign up for redcafe

And now you just conjured something up against me what I didn't say. I did not say United get all the F.A decisions, and I said Michael Carrick is not world class. But I do think he's overrated to fuck, and I do think he's a passenger in the team, therefor he's incredibly average. A few good passes isn't going to change my opinion of him. Don't even bring up 09, because that season United where incredibly lucky to be a point off us, they got the most decisions there way that season. I was the one to have an opinion, you where the one who came in and bashed everyones opinions, so sit the fuck down and get off your high horse, because you're not the good person here. You're the one who started this whole fucking argument in the first place, get used to these forums kiddo, or you wont last here very long.

LMFAO

You're the one labeling around here, saying other peoples posts are garbage from the poster who joined 6 days ago. I stated why I don't think United will succeed, but because I'm labeled as the typical cocky and bitchy Chelsea fan, my opinion isn't valid. You're trying to point out that I'm the stupid one and the one who can't think rationally when really you're the one who is not accepting any side of the story. The United fan got angry over nothing so I left him a stupid post afterwards, It's only fair. I think now that Ferguson is gone the United era will end, there club is in one of the worlds biggest debts, they have small transfer funds for title challengers, they have an average side in many places, and a new manager who is way behind Ferguson. But no my opinion is just stupid and I'm not thinking rationally or fair, I guess that's what all us down to earth and good footballing fans should do, giving the Chelsea flag the middle finger.

What's with this United fan having an argument about David Moyes in every thread?

If he wants to leave, we have to let him leave. Only for the right price however, 40 million pounds and you've got a deal. But then you look at replacements and I'm not sure there is so many to look at. Luiz is now coming into his prime it's very clear to see. I think he's a fantastic defender, I wanted him gone last season because it seemed as though the pressure was getting to him and he just couldn't defend anymore. I'm not saying I want Luiz gone, I would hate to lose him. He's got great confidence in his play and he is unbeatable when he's in good form. But I don't think we can just keep him forever if he wants to leave, and unfortunately that's the way it is.

Behave yourself, there's a few like you on the forum who think that Chelsea will do well is being unfair and delusional. I bet you're the type of person when Chelsea wins a penalty you want to try and be incredibly fair about it and be 'oh well I don't think it was a penalty, it's not like he doesn't have a skull to protect his brain' You joined less than a week ago and have over 100 posts, don't be calling my posts garbage when you've only just joined up on this forum.

But don't we already know this? it's clear to see that he hasn't got the best first touch in the world, anyone who was watched him will know that. He made a good impact as a super sub, but that's not all he is going to be. Theo Walcott starts, even though Wenger could bring him on halftime every game so he could have a larger impact, but he persists in starting Theo. That's how the game works, we can't pay 18 million and shot the kid on the bench for the rest of his career, that isn't going to happen. Lukaku shouldn't be our starter this season anyway, despite his impressive loan, he still isn't at his best. Demba Ba is a better goal scorer than Lukaku, our main starter at the moment should be Ba. But that's not a good thing, we still need a new striker, and we must offload Torres. If Rooney does come, he will be starter, then Ba and Lukaku will be rotational. However as we've seen Lukaku will be very useful coming off the bench now and then, because his physical aspects are brilliant. When we play against Hull I want Ba to start, then Lukaku to come on off the bench later in the game.