BLionheart

So has Ivanovic , Branislav had an enormously negative effect on our season ,
starting from the red card against city which cost us the 1st trophy which would have been a great push for the team to win their 1st trophy so early and against city Abysmal performance against Atletico madrid , costing us our second trophy ( but fair enough he wasn't our only bad player but he was one of the worst) His really stupid red card against United which hadn't happened we would have been 7 points clear of united and the winning mentality and spirit would have been up to the sky but instead this game was the start of our downfall. Both shakhtar games where he was destroyed by willian and their RB i think named Rat time and time again Against Juventes where we lost 3-0 , got out of the UCL and most of Juventes success were thanks to him And now against swansea in the carling where he conducts his worst display of all time gifting them the match. Ivanovic&Cahill are both good players who are valuable to our team squad but how they are being praised and their errors are overlooked while Luiz is getting blamed all the time is beyond me.

I am only comparing the reactions to a Luiz and an Ivanovic's fault , i remember Luiz being slaughtered when he lost possession with 3 players behind him because that resulted in a goal but with Ivanovic or Cahill it's "uncharacteristic" so no problem !!
I don't want to get into the discussion of who's better , but Luiz is twice the defender Ivanovic or Cahill will ever be in terms of awareness , reading the game , tackling and abilities , his main problem is that in England , if you are a defender , you better be the typical big , tall , strong defender who will just baloon the ball into the stands if it ever comes near his penalty box , and all you have to do when in possession is pass the ball to the nearest midfielder other wise you are being too casual and not stress free to watch!

TYPICAL !!!
I can only imagine the meltdown in the english media and our own fans had David Luiz made those mistakes !!! i am not here to attack Ivanovic , i really like the lad but this bias in opinions is exactly the response you'd expect from the british media which as a result affects our fans.

So has Ivanovic , Branislav had an enormously negative effect on our season ,
starting from the red card against city which cost us the 1st trophy which would have been a great push for the team to win their 1st trophy so early and against city Abysmal performance against Atletico madrid , costing us our second trophy ( but fair enough he wasn't our only bad player but he was one of the worst) His really stupid red card against United which hadn't happened we would have been 7 points clear of united and the winning mentality and spirit would have been up to the sky but instead this game was the start of our downfall. Both shakhtar games where he was destroyed by willian and their RB i think named Rat time and time again Against Juventes where we lost 3-0 , got out of the UCL and most of Juventes success were thanks to him And now against swansea in the carling where he conducts his worst display of all time gifting them the match. Ivanovic&Cahill are both good players who are valuable to our team squad but how they are being praised and their errors are overlooked while Luiz is getting blamed all the time is beyond me.

So has Ivanovic , Branislav had an enormously negative effect on our season ,
starting from the red card against city which cost us the 1st trophy which would have been a great push for the team to win their 1st trophy so early and against city Abysmal performance against Atletico madrid , costing us our second trophy ( but fair enough he wasn't our only bad player but he was one of the worst) His really stupid red card against United which hadn't happened we would have been 7 points clear of united and the winning mentality and spirit would have been up to the sky but instead this game was the start of our downfall. Both shakhtar games where he was destroyed by willian and their RB i think named Rat time and time again Against Juventes where we lost 3-0 , got out of the UCL and most of Juventes success were thanks to him And now against swansea in the carling where he conducts his worst display of all time gifting them the match. Ivanovic&Cahill are both good players who are valuable to our team squad but how they are being praised and their errors are overlooked while Luiz is getting blamed all the time is beyond me.

So has Ivanovic , Branislav had an enormously negative effect on our season ,
starting from the red card against city which cost us the 1st trophy which would have been a great push for the team to win their 1st trophy so early and against city Abysmal performance against Atletico madrid , costing us our second trophy ( but fair enough he wasn't our only bad player but he was one of the worst) His really stupid red card against United which hadn't happened we would have been 7 points clear of united and the winning mentality and spirit would have been up to the sky but instead this game was the start of our downfall. Both shakhtar games where he was destroyed by willian and their RB i think named Rat time and time again Against Juventes where we lost 3-0 , got out of the UCL and most of Juventes success were thanks to him And now against swansea in the carling where he conducts his worst display of all time gifting them the match. Ivanovic&Cahill are both good players who are valuable to our team squad but how they are being praised and their errors are overlooked while Luiz is getting blamed all the time is beyond me.

I haven't been too sold on Ivanovic since the 10/11 season. He was a rock at RB during the double winning season but after that he just hasn't really been the same...

Ivanovic has been playing awful since the beginning of the season. As a RB, while he was doing fine supporting the attack, he was playing really bad in the defence. He was doing fine as CB, untill tonight.
People saying Cahill and Ivanovic is our best partnership are idiots.

Swansea's MOTM, two great assists.
To be fair if it was Luiz we all would be slating him, you can blame Torres (he was shit) or Rafa (subs made too late) but at the end of the day Ivanovic was the one who gifted them two goals...
I still think this tie is far from over.

I'm sorry but Ivanovic has underperformed a lot more than once this season. It's only now that people have the guts to say it after that god-awful performance from him tonight.

For the record Cahill is by far the worst CB since Boulahourz, but the dutch could play also as a full back, so he was more useful. Luiz as a CB play really good the big games, while Cahill used to fuck everythig in the big games.
I'm happy both RDM and Benitez realiazed it, since Cahill is always the last option for that position.

I really dislike the JT comparisons. Gazza is a really solid CB, you can't ask more from him, he is solid enough for England and is solid enough for a top Premier League team. But JT was WORLD CLASS and simply one of the best of his generation, and Gazza isn't near that and probably never will be but not many do reach that level, so it really isn't a criticism.

Said before we signed him he was overrated, was proved wrong a bit as hes actually a decent center half but still nothing more than a decent center half though.

Cahill isn't as good as JT, doubt he'll ever be either.

Eachtime i watch this lad play , i see everything we are looking for , would be a real shame if captured by another club specially United.

Eachtime i watch this lad play , i see everything we are looking for , would be a real shame if captured by another club specially United.

Eachtime i watch this lad play , i see everything we are looking for , would be a real shame if captured by another club specially United.

It doesnt work that way..
It is about recognising the talent (and dont tell me talent is secondary, this is insane), not comparing stats. Aguero and RVP were already making huge impacts and werent atracting so many doubts, Falcao was already being treated like diamond in River Plate (I can show interviews of that time) and Drogba got into Marseille soon after that.
The class and ability of any player is very easy to see. You see the guy playing for 5min and you already know if he is good or not. There are some things that are impossible to teach (shot, drible, passing vision, first touch, ball control, etc), the footballer must be born with it.
Lukaku is a decent prospect, but he wasnt born with a brilliant raw talent. There is nothing you can do about it...

What are you people even discussing !!! with 5 very capable wingers/play-makers (Moses - Oscar - Marin - Hazard - Mata) 3 very decent emergency back-ups (Lampard - Bertrand - Ramires) , some promising players coming back from loans soon (De-bruyne - Kakuta - Hazard 2) , Piazon will never be getting enough minutes in here .
YES , we are short in numbers and our squad is very thin but that applies to almost every position except the AM/Winger 3 spots , worst case scenario 4 of the above mentioned players gets injured !! we either change the formation or call back one of our loans.
We made a huge mistake not loaning out Kakuta to the right clubs earlier , preventing him vital minutes and experience for his progress , he wasn't getting any minutes in the 1st team and back than we had only the Anelkalouda !!
We clearly need to learn something from the last few years with youth and it's choose carefully where are they heading for a loan.

If there is one player in our current squad capable of running for the great ballon d'or one day then it's Eden Hazard , if we fail to turn him into one of the top ten players in the world then he has definitely made the wrong move when chosen us.
The lad has too much natural talent and a huge set of skills to develop into an exceptional player , now it's our task as a club to coach/assist him fulfilling this potential.

If there is one player in our current squad capable of running for the great ballon d'or one day then it's Eden Hazard , if we fail to turn him into one of the top ten players in the world then he has definitely made the wrong move when chosen us.
The lad has too much natural talent and a huge set of skills to develop into an exceptional player , now it's our task as a club to coach/assist him fulfilling this potential.

If there is one player in our current squad capable of running for the great ballon d'or one day then it's Eden Hazard , if we fail to turn him into one of the top ten players in the world then he has definitely made the wrong move when chosen us.
The lad has too much natural talent and a huge set of skills to develop into an exceptional player , now it's our task as a club to coach/assist him fulfilling this potential.

What are you people even discussing !!! with 5 very capable wingers/play-makers (Moses - Oscar - Marin - Hazard - Mata) 3 very decent emergency back-ups (Lampard - Bertrand - Ramires) , some promising players coming back from loans soon (De-bruyne - Kakuta - Hazard 2) , Piazon will never be getting enough minutes in here .
YES , we are short in numbers and our squad is very thin but that applies to almost every position except the AM/Winger 3 spots , worst case scenario 4 of the above mentioned players gets injured !! we either change the formation or call back one of our loans.
We made a huge mistake not loaning out Kakuta to the right clubs earlier , preventing him vital minutes and experience for his progress , he wasn't getting any minutes in the 1st team and back than we had only the Anelkalouda !!
We clearly need to learn something from the last few years with youth and it's choose carefully where are they heading for a loan.

I haven't missed mikel at all.

The worst thing that has happened to Chelsea FC