Peace.

This quote is very interesting : "He's an enormously talented guy, he's extremely quick and I've seen him rip the Chelsea senior players to pieces in training but that has obviously got to be translated on to the Saturday afternoon," Wilkins told Talksport's All Sports show. So, why on earth didn't he had a chance ? Did Ray Wilkins was the only one to watch Stu at trainings ?

A ) I'm agreed with that theory. But, we could say there are two types of players, the impact players and the, let's say starter players. The first category needs only few minutes to make an impact on the game while the second needs the whole 90 minutes to have influence on the game. I don't feel Sturridge is an impact player. B ) They ain't playing at the same position. What you expect from a striker, it's to score goal (or to shoot). You will argue that's a cliché, but actually this is more or less the only thing we keep in mind about strikers. So, as he only got no more than 10 minutes here and there, he was forced to overdo things. C ) That's meet my "A)". He seems to have reach another level, because he was given the whole game(s) to express his talent and to show his abilities. D ) Yes, he scored as a sub. But, that wasn't the same context than here. Unlike at Chelsea where he was only a sub because the coach didn't trust him and prefered to play the so called "experienced players", at Bolton he started this first game as a sub, not because Coyle didn't trust him, but because he was just arrived at the club. And if I recall it correctly, that was a lucky goal.

Maybe. But he can't cross, he can't dribble, he is slow. All the contrary of a modern right back. My bigger concern is when he faces pacy winger. Against United and Tottenham, he has shown that he was too slow too handle Bale and Nani. And at the end of the day, we gotta have a real right back. To play players out of position is a real disease at our club... ps : don't get me wrong, i ain't saying he's done a poor job for us.

It's a no brainer he couldn't use those 'chances' (I don't call this a chance, by the way). First of all, the rare times he has been played, it was out of position... And then, he only got ten odds minutes here and there. When you enter the pitch to show you can be a starter, and you have only ten poor minutes to do so, you try too hard and at the end you make wrong decisions... He was poorly handled, no doubt.

Because Bosingwa is shit and Ivanovic ain't a right back.

Don't be obsessed with the claims from Santos saying that he will only leave for £41m. It is just a way to negociate. The seller asks for a price, the buyer offers another price, then at the end they meet an agreement between those two prices, and everyone is happy. For instance, let's admitting that Santos wants £30m for him. If they say openly "we want £30m", teams will try to negociate something around £25m. So if Santos says "we want £41m", nobody will offer that sum, but something lesser high, something about £30m / £35m, which suits Santos. Anyway, that's how I think it works. Another exemple. Some days before selling Benzema to Real Madrid, Jean-Michel Aulas was still claiming that he will only sell him for €100m. Few days later, Madrid bought the frenchman for €35m. There're many other exemple like this one.

No at all.

Yes !!! We will finally be able to instantly buy some (average) players, just to emulate Liverpool !

I'd take what Wilkins said with a pinch of salt. Even though he has been sacked, he stays fidel to Chelsea and never said and say a bad word toward us. So I don't think he would have said that Ancelotti didn't have his word in transfers, on purpose to avoid to add fuel to fire...

Well, if our transfert policy is to buy our stars look-a-like, I've got an idea. We should buy real talent for cheap and then do them some plastic surgery. It will be cheaper than £20m.

Don't cry, we still can negotiate that, if you see what I mean :eyebrows: ps : I was joking huh ^^

You won't get my vote, you will be a bad mod, nobody listen to you :lol:

Yes Mikel knows to dribble. Don't get me wrong, I ain't saying he is Messi. But we didn't see him to do so under Ancelotti's area because the latter man gave him the order to stay deep with the defense.

Here what I could have understand : It is not a lot... Can't understand more...

I'm agreed with Madmax here. He may give the ball away a few times, but this year Lampard and Essien gave the ball away far more time than Mikel. And at the opposite of them two, Mikel doesn't look like a hopeless newborn when under pressure.

Thanks Mr. Degraen ! I'd rather us to give up on him than loan him to a belgium team. No disrespect here, but the Jupiler League isn't enough good, he needs to play somewhere else. By the way, Vitess would be also a shitty move... So, the better would be to keep him at the Bridge, and if our board is so desperate to loan him, then loan him to a mid-table team of the EPL. Otherwise we will never hear of this guy again.

Same for me. After all, we did the same thing on the home kit last year, with this out-of-place red on the collar..

^ It's too late for this. We already have this tag since we bought Torres.

Yup. To be honest I'm become worried of that... At the moment we doesn't seem to be bothered to get a right back, the only winger we are linked with will likely be loaned... And we will get another forward and maybe another center back (Godin)... At the moment it doesn't look as good as I expected and hoped. I hope this is because the mercato has yet to open entirely...

Piazon is a second striker.

A ) I wouldn't say it is because of his suspension that he has to started to play badly. Neither because he has integrated a team which was playing poorly. We got to keep in mind that during this period, he picked up an injury to his toes. I think it was the straw that broke the camel back, ie his body has suffered from injuries too many times. B ) Wrong. Our « Bad Moment ® » started well before the Sunderland game. Actually, it started against Aston Villa. We got a draw there in a poorly way, then we have won against the Wolf in the same way. Against BBurn we were very lucky to not lose. And then Liverpool made us look like fools. So, our bad form started before Wilkins got the sack, before the Sunderland game and before Essien got that red card. C ) I don't believe Ramires was awful... He was more the scapegoat than anything else...

Forget him mate. He has done just one good season at Bordeaux, and it was when they win La Ligue 1. After that, he was average during his second season there, and since he is at Lyon, he is a ghost. At Bordeaux he was good because it was the case of the "big fish in the small pond". He doesn't seem to handle the pressure at Lyon. And to be honest, when he was tagged has the new Zidane, it wasn't because he had the potential to become so, but that was because of the sweet dream of having found the new Zidane. In other words, he was way too much overrated. I am pretty surprised you mention him. He was a good player at the level of La Ligue 1, and that's that. And if I say "he was", this is because since Knysna he is really poor.

Do you mean a team of the level of the UCL or a team based in Europe ? At 18 he didn't even playing for a professional club !!

This topic going on the same pattern than last year. First, we are strongly linked with Neymar. Then, the deal seems to be done according to some journos. After that, the deal seems to be more and more unlikely because of the price asked for and some quote from X. Afterward, we start to say he can go else where. Finaly, we will very soon be saying "good riddance, we have X (who is better)".

Of course no. But when he (Drogba) was 18 years-old, he didn't cost £20m and he wasn't dubbed as the new [enter a name].