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1. I am not dodging questions, we wouldn't be having this conversation otherwise. 2. Is 'reputation' not linked to playing style or identity? If no, what? 3. The essence of your second para there seems awfully simplistic to me. Maybe I'm missing something but from that para what I gather is have ambition? ----> replace Mikel by one of (DDR/Busquets/Vidal) ----> jump in 'success' ---> great 'reputation'. 4. My point about the contract was that the club see him as an essential part of the future (250 apps, 6 yrs experience) and rewarded him accordingly. That fits in with what I'm saying about evolving our own style. If they had something else in mind, that wouldn't have been the case. I don't know where the part about selling him came from.
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I want us to be Chelsea; I want us to develop our own style of play that maximises each Chelsea player's contribution to the Chelsea clause by best utilizing their skill set. If Chelsea feel they need someone better than Mikel to better fit what they want to see on the pitch, then fine. That's not the case though, they've just handed him a 5 year deal
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Do United really have a world class player in every position? I don't think you believe that. Does Barcelona have a team of world class players or does the fact that the intensity with which the players coming through their system are ingrained with their philosophy and beliefs about the way they should play make those players world class? There is a big difference. United is top of the league not because they have world class players but because they know how to get the best out of the players at their disposal i.e making the most of the available skills to your advantage. Hence my contention that not every player on the team needs to be world class. It's about finding a way to play that suits your strengths. Benitez had it spot on the other day : What is important for the midfield pivot is to stay disciplined and know their role i.e link the defence and flair players, provide solid cover for the fullbacks and keep things ticking over. For this role, Mikel will suffice if they stick to the script and not do anything silly.
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Keeping in mind the opponent we were up against, I think he had a strictly okay game. Can't see where people are coming from with the 'great game' comments. Looked like an uncaged bird early on in the first half while picking out a couple of excellent forward passes (one that sent Hazard clear should have resulted in an assist, really) and seemed to enjoy the chance of getting forward more often. As one of the two in midfield, his defensive contributions didn't impress me that much. There were occasions when he lost his positional discipline, leaving Mikel susceptible and also ones where he didn't bother tracking back at all. 6/10 for me.
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That's the third thread you've enriched today with the exact same words. I don't mind brevity but atleast make a point.
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Ah sorry lol, I thought you had him mixed up with someone else.
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So you'd rather have a player continue in bad form?
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A week training with Drogba and the lads win 3 on the trot.
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Wrong. 6-0 v Wolves with JT-Cahill
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We didn't even get out of first gear today, way too easy. Good thing when your body is readjusting itself to being half the world away. Roll on Sunday.
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Chelsea have 1000 travelling fans, Monterrey 500.
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Truth be told - I'm starting to like Benitez a little bit more (nothing to do with results).
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Yawn. 4-3-3 with Luiz AND Mikel in the 3 in midfield. Or maybe Luiz + Mikel in the pivot with Mazacar supporting Torres.
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Bit early for lineups, no?
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They'll be using something called 'GoalRef' in today's match (chip embedded in ball and magnets - no idea where).
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16 17 18 Hi Kal Penn.
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Are you talking about Bruma, the Portuguese winger? If so, he is not a Chelsea player. This is a thread for our Dutch young centre back Jeffrey Bruma who's currently on loan at Hamburg.
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Thanks for reading. In the first half Ramires struck me as having a pretty poor game; not only with his plentiful misplaced passes/hurried clearances but also in terms of poor understanding of his responsibilities, like you mentioned. He was tracking runners deep one moment, pressuring aggressively into the Sunderland half the next. Oscar by comparison pretty much stuck to his task and marked space well on most occasions. In the second half, it was evident that Benitez had made their roles clear to them because they looked more composed and coherent as a pair even though Chelsea were losing the possession game for a considerable part of the half. Throughout the game Oscar tended to switch off on turnovers and appeared lethargic/lackadaisical while tracking back. Overall he had a 7/10 game, imo. Benitez hasn't started him in the 3 behind Torres unlike Robbie, so I doubt he'd just thrown him there once Romeu got injured. It seemed to me he was second in line for an appearance there after Lampard, who could be seen warming up as Romeu was stretchered off but didn't actually come on (maybe because 20 minutes was too early for him). It seemed pre-planned, else Luiz would have slotted in, especially after he was given some time there against Nordsjaelland.
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19 minutes into last weekend's game against Sunderland saw the introduction of Oscar into the side in place of the injured Oriol Romeu. Having not started a game under Benitez in the band of three behind Torres, Oscar found himself stationed alongside fellow Brazilian Ramires right in the middle of the park. While many Chelsea fans held hopes that the young midfielder would eventually move to that position in later years, and technical director Michael Emenalo himself confirming the club's vision of doing exactly that, this represented the first occasion where we got to see him in said position for an extended period of time against reasonably good opposition. Here's how he lined up after coming on - Having taken an early lead through Torres, Chelsea found themselves in a comanding position against an opponent in hapless form. Sunderland hadn't made any sort of impression going forwards in this game upto this point and Chelsea dominated possession and chances. It is worth noting that the pivot were evidently instructed to mark zonally and in conjunction; one marking an opponent in possession straying central, the other marking space. Chelsea's double pivot take space and time out of the picture for Danny Rose. Midway through the first half Sunderland decided to go to a more direct style, looking to exploit Connor Wickham's physical attributes and their wide players' skill on the ball. This lead to most of the play shifting to the flanks, the Chelsea central midfield being completely bypassed and their fullbacks pressed back into their respective defensive zones. This is when Chelsea's hurried and inaccurate clearances and passes heaped unnecessary pressure on the defensive play. Illustration 1 (1) Adam Johnson's byline cross isn't cleared effectively and Bardsley picks up the ball outside the Chelsea box with nobody closing him or Gardner down. Bardsley can pass to Gardner or shoot himself. (2) As Chelsea players rush out, Bardsley still posseses the ball. This delay has taken Gardner out of the picture as Ramires is well placed to block a shot. However, Oscar's confusion regarding his next course of action sees him stranded on the edge of the box with Bardsley about to fire away. Fortunately for Chelsea, his shot is a wayward one that poses no threat to Cech's goal. Illustration 2 A long ball towards Wickham bypasses Oscar and Ramires. With Luiz occupying Wickham, Oscar is caught ball watching while Sessegnon is one-vs-one with Gary Cahill if the striker is able to nod it down for the Frenchman. He does, and Sessegnon strides forward a couple of yards before unleashing a shot that Cech scrambles to save. A chance out of nothing. In these situations we see a young guy with excellent theoretical grasp of the responsibilities his role entails, but one who is not entirely aware about the phases of play that can develop in the next instant. He fails to recognise danger from two different situations in the space of a little more than a minute. This is not to say that his entire first half performance was poor in it's defensive moments : Oscar's willingness to put in a tackle hasn't been lost on me even in games before this one, and the above screen provides a heartening example of his good reading of the game. He goes from marking space one instant to taking down a much bulkier and experienced opponent cleanly the other. Old failings resurface (1) Torres' poor cutback sees Rose collect possession. Oscar, on one of his rare forward runs is starting to jog back towards his position. (2) 'Jog' back is the correct term after all. Rose's unchecked run has attracted Wickham deep to collect and lay off the ball. Cahill follows him. But that's okay, Oscar can handle Wickham's lay off, right? (3) Wrong. The Sunderland forward's intelligent play and Oscar's dozing on the job means Craig Gardner can run on to the ball 30 yards from goal. Oscar doesn't even realize what's happened until long after. Gardner has Sessegnon in support but chooses to unleash a ranger; a decision that proves daft as the ball sails into Row Z. 2nd Half Oscar starts the second brightly, more energetic with his pressing and more attacking in his on the ball play. Benitez has clearly had a word with him at half time. With Mata looking for passing options from the left and other Chelsea players unavailable, the quick thinking Oscar sees an opportunity. He is wide open for a long stretch in front of goal and accelerates to get there. Mata spots his run and sends in a beautiful cross that only Oscar's poor first touch prevents from being converted into goal number 3. Old failings resurface v 2.0 (1) A Sunderland counter sees Johnson on the ball and looking for a viable pass. Oscar is trudging back to cover for midfield runners. (2) Look behind you! Oscar's caught ball-watching again while Seb Larsson has drawn level and is about to go past him to collect Johnson's pass. (3) Still unaware, Oscar's actually starting to hold up while in the space of 4 seconds a possible counter for Sunderland has broken down simply because of the wrong weight on Johnson's pass. Cahill collects. Old failings resurface v 3.0 (1) and (2) Sessegnon's pass wide to McCleary has set him up well for a menacing cross into the Chelsea box. While the back four hold their shape well and Ramires shows up in support, and midfield runners for Sunderland can capitalize on a weak clearance/knock down. There is no-one defending the area in front of goal; Oscar's not even in the picture. What happens next? (3) McCleary's cross is too strong for Wickham; Cole heads it away for Bertrand to latch on to. Ultimately, no damage done. Against a better side, who knows? This represented the last noteworthy incident for someone on Oscar Watch. Sunderland had a fair share of the ball but failed to genuinely trouble Chelsea from open play bar the freak goal and 2 freekick instances. At 78 minutes, Lampard came on for Hazard and this saw Chelsea's shape change to 4-3-3 for the rest of the game with Oscar as the most advanced of the midfield 3. Stats (via thechels.co.uk and whoscored.com) : 6 successful tackles (highest in the game) 4 successful dribbles (highest in the game) 44 of 51 passes completed (completion rate 86.27%) 21 forward passes 12 backwards passes 11 sideways passes 3 long passes, 2 completed 1 key pass 2 tunovers initiated 3 shots, 0 on target 76 touches of the ball Conclusion As can be seen from the stats, Oscar was heavily involved in the game, second infact (3 touches less than Mata). His passing and offensive game remains solid as ever; the latter a little curtailed due to a change in role and responsibilities. He exhibited great knowledge and understanding of his new responsibilities and worked well in tandem with his partners around him. A quicker defensive reading of the game and the consequent awareness is required but for a young import into the league getting his first significant minutes in that crucial position, the cerebral Oscar holds much promise.
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Put it this way, I can see why we're favourites.
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Yeah I was thinking the same towards the end of the half - 'want to see if Corinthians are any good without the ball'. Up to Ahly to come out with a changed set up or attitude or both and take it to the Brazilians.
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Bit harsh; there were fantastically organized after overcoming an iffy start. Corinthians struggled to convert possession into chances. Sensational ball in from Douglas though. I like the look of their right side - Alessandro, Paulinho, Emerson.
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I'll be writing one later today on Oscar's appearance in the pivot at Sunderland.
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Didn't he retire from internationals after his latest knee injury?