LDN Blue

But Ivanovic is just one, again for the life of me I don't know why he is, exception. He's already showed his willingness to bench these players hasn't he? Costa, Hazard, Matic, Pedro, Terry.. They've all been dropped at one point or another.

Very true, there will always be one Ferguson I suppose. But you can extrapolate certain traits between them, can you not?

I'll take your post point by point. A. He can't help us play attacking futbol, his best at being pragmatic. Who has ever played this 'attacking football' that we keep talking about when it comes to Chelsea? Carlo, AVB, RdM, etc all played the same brand of football we've been playing for a while. I do accept that our approach to certain matches is undesirable, but if they all lead to one objective (trophies) isn't that worth it? We didn't play this boring football all through the 2014-15 season, it only really started when we had our slump. B. He has a poor habit of trusting more on older players then younger players. Case in point Ivanovic. If Mourinho had the same amount of love and patience for someone like KDB, Lukaku, Bertrand and what not he would have gems in his hand. Hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it? But as I recall, and I'm sure this has been stated over and over again, Lukaku and KDB chose to leave. Mourinho said a few weeks ago that KdB kept knocking on his door asking to leave. With Ivanovic, I'll give you that. That will continue to confuse everyone, Mourinho is 100% wrong in his continous selection and there isnt's any excuses for it. The only hope is, the Serb's days are numbered. C. Controversial manager, don't like this. Now we're just being pedantic lol. I remember the days of Carlo here, the proverbial 'yes-man', we hated it. We wanted someone to stand up to the board for example, to defend the club in the media, that's what Mourinho does. Creates the whole siege mentality. Again I point to SAF. Controversy was his forte, loved to do it. Remember when RvP "could have been killed"? He did that week-in week-out, United fans loved it and adored it.. Are they both so different? Someone mentioned that SAF recommeneded against Mourinho, but I'm sure that's not true. From what I read, Bobby Charlton was the one who said no to the idea.

Yeah exactly lol, let him ride it out a bit longer. There's a two-week international break now, so he can recoup and figure a way out of this.

I mean at least give me your arguements in context if you're going to.

If he finishes 4th I see no reason why he shouldn't be kept on, if you see what I mean. As I saw on Twitter, "the biggest difference between United and Chelsea is that everytime it came down to it, United backed SAF over anyone." Which is what the club should do, even if privately things are happening that we don't know of.

Isn't Ospina nominated for that?

Didn't you hear? Last season never happened.

A play on people's emotions more than anything lol

They should've done that anyway lol, this was a non-story from the moment it came about. A blemish on Chelsea's image, which isn't all Mourinho's fault.. The board played their part by staying silent.

I mean I get people are mad and that, but let's not paint him as some kind of evil villian. Bit of respect wouldn't go amiss considering all he's done for us. To call him a cunt, a disgrace, etc. Damn people

..touché, checkmate

"Jose says he then had to take Matic off because he needed to use Remy and didn't want to take Oscar off." "Jose says he likes Matic very much and his substitution should not be considered humiliating." "Jose says he agrees with suggestions he now needs to start some of the young players. He says Loftus-Cheek is the most ready."

No I accept that, we've been playing like shit all of 2015. I don't know what the fuck happened to Hazard, Cesc and co this year, because whatever bright spark they had has gone. But at the same time what's the use in changing manager. Again?! Firstly, there's no suitable replacements out there so we'd probably get stuck with someone shit like Avram Grant or something. Secondly, anyone who is brought in will literally never see a third season either because we'll just turn on him.

I'm not denying that this season is a shambles, but it's also quite easily reversable. We mock Arsenal every season for starting poorly and losing these dumb games, only for them to recover and pinch 4th as per usual. There's no reason why that can't happen now. This season is a right-off, we're clearly no going to win the title, but that's no reason to give up imo. Especially when your manager is world-class, I'd have thought he deserves more than 8 games to turn things around.

Regardless, to suggest Mou destoryed BENITEZ's good work?! I know emotions are running high and that, but let's not get carried away. This club is plagued with lack of patience, no-one has it. Everyone's trigger happy with sacking management when things don't go right.

LOOOL what? DO WE REMEMBER THE 2014-15 SEASON?! It seems like everyone here is forgetting that we are the CURRENT champions of England.

Lmao for real, I've ignored it. It's not for us, it's just a show for the media as a deflection tactic. SAF used to do it all the time and no-one really gave two shits in the end.

So uh, is it just me who thinks Mourinho should still be allowed to fix his mess?

"There are people at the club who have to remember their responsiblities"

"If the club wants to sack me, they have to sack me. I'm not running away from my responsibilities"

This is tragic, please Mourinho, enough of the deflection tactics. Just admit you ballsed up and take responsibility, vow to fix this.

On an 18month contract preferably, since no-one lasts longer than that here lol

Lol why are there so many sub threads for Mourinho? Everyone's just going to discuss the same things, might as well keep it here.