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I would prefer Frenkie de Jong over van de Beek, He has a higher upside and can play more positions. That said, van de Beek is a really great young player too and does score. Maybe best comparison is Cesc of tens years ago (he is NOT there yet, Cesc was a fucking beast for over a decade) IF we lose Kovacic back to RM (NOOOOO!!!) and Kante simply never adapts (lets so hope he does), you know my dream (so rotation involved) MF: Jorginho, Neves, de Jong, Mount (down the road), Kai Havertz (or if he is not possible, Talisca) If we also sell or loan out RLC and sell Barkley, then toss van de Beek in maybe. Neves and de Jong can play anywhere in MF (de Jong can also play CB and fullback) I have to trust Sarri to know who fills what and who to go after.

Not Mount, as Mount is an ot and out AMF, van de Beek is a more a CMF., but he also does score a lot, so you are pretty close. He is a hybrid.

It is so hard to put a valuation on him atm. Genoa could demand anywhere between £20m and £80m, depending on how he continues to perform and who comes sniffing around (everyone!). It sucks we are in such dire straights striker wise. They will inflate the price so so much.

Talisca is an AMF. Not a striker. Dybala scored a hat trick for Juve last night. I want him or Icardi sooo bad, but Dybala especially will be a nightmare to pull from Juve. I also cannot see our board spending the £150m or so it would take to buy him. Icardi is the main option. Still cannot believe we didn't grab him for £98m in July. We were trying to extract £65m for MORATA from AC Milan. Icardi is SURELY worth £33m more than that! I know the Icardi haters here claim he touches the ball 2 times a game. That is ridiculous, and even if he did, with those 2 touches he was a deadly sniper (enough to score 29 league goals!). One more goal and he would have bexome only the third player ever in modern game (1960 onward) to score 30 in a season in Italy. Luca Toni and Higuain being the others. If not Dybala, then we need to fully suss out Piątek. I think he looks the real deal. Ironically he was one of the 'cheap buys' I told my Baggie mate about last year for West Brom to buy. I had to go back and check my old messages to him. I look at the lesser leagues top scorers (say top 10 max) and then look at ages and back ground. He stuck out like a sore thumb for KS Cracovia (Kracow). I had no idea he would be THIS good, but certainly was worth a shot for West Brom. Genoa is a striker-finding machine, lolol. They had Pietro Pellegri, the 17yo wunderkind now on Monaco (Emenalo buy).

He seems like a much more talented version of Serge Aurier. They are both French fullbacks too. Mendy would be a dream upgrade at LB if Shitty did cut him loose and he behaved himself here. I can't see Pep giving him up yet though. A Firpo buy would be a huge signal. Even Shitty wouldn't drop £54m on a LB if he wasn't going to be a starter.

He is great player, but he apperently has a lot of off field issues. Pep doesn't tolerate bullshit much. If they do buy Firpo, Mendy may be soon out. Would you take a risk with him? I lean towards yes, as he is miles beyond Alonso in terms of being a two-way LB. We would have to be sure though, maybe put some behavioural clauses into his contract.

Has Ross Barkley’s chance at Chelsea already been and gone? https://www.tifofootball.com/features/has-ross-barkleys-chance-at-chelsea-already-been-and-gone/

We are so fucked.

Skriniar is fucking great, and super pricey, IF Inter could be even convinced to sell him. Nikola Milenkovic is interesting 1.95m, strong as an ox, but still technical and pretty pacey Date of Birth (Age): Oct 12, 1997 (20) Place of Birth: Belgrad Nationality: Serbia Height: 1,95 m Position: Centre-Back Current international: Serbia Caps/Goals: 7/0

Show me a link with all inflows and outflows that shows where we are top 3 net spend in the world overall since Roman bought us. We do have a very high wage bill but have tremendous inflows from sponsorships, the EPL itself including massive television revenues), CL and EL payouts in the years we are in those competitions, as well as our huge loan army. In terms of the stadium, now that he pulled the plug on a new one, that is another huge expense he will not incur, granted countered by a huge loss of speculative revenue that SB doesn't generate due to its smaller size and lack of luxury boxes to a modern level. Also, I must add, I am not that big a fan of Paul Allen buying us. Would much rather Jim Ratcliffe or another billionaire whose main passion is football. Or, my fantasy owner, Mr 170 billion usd net worth Bezos, lolol. I am hugely pissed that Roman is being fucked about by the UK and US governments due to his massive Russian/Putin connections. He HAS been a dream of an owner for sure. But they seem bound and determined to ruin his British interests, unfortunately including CFC.

I hate having this much uncertainty over Hazard, Kovacic, and our striker position. Like I said a month ago or so, we have more complicated issues (far beyond just those 3) than any major top club in football atm, from ownership situ on down.

We apperently dont want to sell any of our precious jewels such as Drinkwater, Moses, etc.

We should tossed them Bakayoko plus £100m. If you rate Bakayoko at £35m (he is playing better now for AC Milan after a dodgy start) there is basically your 150m euro. Lazio DMF's are soon 30 and 32, and pretty shit (scouser has been Lucas and the pedestrian Milan Badelj, who only now is rated a little higher due to his Croatia WC turn. Bakayoko is NOT playing a straight DMF at all for Milan, he is playing in much the same zone as SMS, just without the offensive shooting. Other players than Bakayoko could have been floated too. Drinkwater PLUS Musonda, Cesc, Moses plus Musonda, (they need wingers) or even lower the cash a bit and toss in Morata.

That may be his ultimate position, albeit down the road when Jorginho gets too old. That also assumes Sarri is still our manager in 5,6 years. Ampadu is similar to Frenkie de Jong.They can play almost any position (winger may be a stretch for Amps) on the field, except for Striker and GK. de Jong is actually a really good CB (not at Matthijs de Ligt level, but you are talking about a soon top 10 CB in world in de Ligt). Buying de Jong would give Sarri crazy flexibility, especially if we also bought Pavard (he can play RB, CB, trad DMF, even LB and CMF in a pinch) and then add in Ampadu to the floater mix. It would be uber smart football, so that means our board will never even make the offers for de Jong or Pavard, lolol

Totally oki with that on these conditions 1 We buy another CB, a great one that Sarri wants. We cannot roll with only Luiz, Rudiger and AC. That would be madness. This assumes Cahill is sold (ffs I truly hope so!) The new CB, when Ampadu returns (in your scenario) might make AC expendable (as Sarri really doesnt seem to rate him) I truly hope not, but football is a brutal business. I have bad feeling if we cut AC lose we will sorely regret it. 2 We buy Leon Bailey, as he can play both LW and his preferred RW. This HAS to happen. Even more so if we lose Eden. We then need to buy TWO wingers, both WC. We CANNOT roll with only Pedro, Willian (both a year older too) and (ffs can we sell him please!) Moses as our only wingers. That is also disastrous.

Striker Ciro Immobile, who was the main provider of goals for the Italians with 41 scored in all competitions last season, also extended his tenure with Lazio for the same length. We can pull them both off the table now for us. Completely We made a legit offer of 115m euros PLUS Musonda (let's value him at 10m euros) so that's 125m euros (£111m) to Lazio and they laughed in our face. They wanted 150m euros (£133m). It is now in writing. Only teams that meet that (Shitty won't buy him, I am convinced he is NOT a Pep player) would be the usual suspects, ie. Barca, Real, PSG. and Manure (IF they sold Pogba). Too rich for our blood, and also for Juve and Bayern. I think it will come down to PSG (especially if they lose Rabiot,and FOR SURE if they sold Mbappe, as they will have £250m to £300m burning a hole in the sheik's robe pocket then) and Manure (if they sell Pogba) or Barca, IF they do NOT buy Pogba. I do not see Real paying that much for a CMF. Maybe I am wrong.

Lolol, I am a gambler. If he is THAT good that he can help a fairly shit overall team beat us and Manure, then he needs to come to us and play with the big boys next year. He might anyway if Lamps pulls a miracle and gets Derby promoted, although we surely would put him on our main squad at that point.

Golovin was injured up until 3 games ago,and has not scored so far. Will be interesting to see how he pans out at Monaco. Even if Kante fully adapts to new role, he's never going to be a big scorer, so it is REALLY on Kovacic and Barkley to step up to the plate. They both are capable in THIS system. Barkley only had one year (2015/16) where he hit double digits (12) in goals.even that year he only had 8 league goals.Maybe we are simply expecting too much.Frustrating as fuck. look at Marek Hamsik's production, sigh

In my fantasyland world, we would scupper Shitty to Neves. He has insane upside and can play any role in the MF,but,most importantly the Jorginho role (DH DMF) Zero chance we drop £100m on him though. Frenkie de Jong is the other young superstar in the making who can play DH DMF too (along with, (and this crazy), traditional DMF, CB, LB, RB, CMF, AMF, and even winger) Itis also fantasyland we land him,as even more than Neves, ALL, EVERY top ten, top 15 club want de Jong badly. Santiago Ascacíbar (21yo Argentine) from Stuttgart would be great b/u,but he is also going to be VERY costly Jean-Philippe Gbamin ,23yo Cote d'Ivoire on FSV Mainz 05 in the Bundesliga is also going to be really pricey,and is more of a traditional DMF Same for 21yo Frenchman Lucas Tousart from Lyon (my dog, is that team LOADED with young talent) Other options are also not cheap, Julian Weigl from Dortmund (Shitty on him too) and then the most realistic I think, Leandro Paredes from Zenit (Roma had to sell him and Rudiger to meet FFP) Stanislav Lobotka (23yo Slovakian) from Celta Vigo often plays in a kind of Jorginho role too, and Spurs and PSG are all over him, Spuds has a £31m bid turned down at the window's end this summer. I was shocked AC Milan sold Manuel Locatelli (20yo) for only £9m to Sassuolo this summer.He is already helping them immensely (they are only not in 3rd place in Serie A due to goal differential, as their defence has been shit). Sander Berge (20yo Norwegian who is exploding at Genk) is another possible option, but not sotested. Big lad too, 1.93m Santiago Cáseres, 21yo Argentine who Villarreal just bought is another one Danilo Barbosa da Silva on Nice (22yo Brasilian) is also out there

Yes. We could have given written permission. Sorta wish we had. Oh well.

Looking at Girouds career stats, it isnt like he has not been an adequate scorer (and he is still in superb shape, even at 32) Starting in 2009/10 Goals 23 14 25 17 22 19 24 Then last two years 16 (in 13 less games than the 24 so say 21 or 22 if same amount of games played) 12 (last year) Now zero so far I cant believe it is age alone. Maybe, but he seems so fit and work rate is crazy high still. Up until 2 years ago, he was averaging almost 21 goals a year in the top flight wherever he was. In 2014/15 he was tracking to 28 if he played same amount as year before and year after, and that was in EPL for all 3 years.

I will play flavour of the day. Let's say we do buy Ramsey. Who then sits, Kova or Kante, or does Ramsey take over Barkley's place and if so, what do we do with Barkley? You can substitute any high end AMF/CMF buy inot this question as well. It doesn't have to be Ramsey. Finally, another catch-22. IF Kovacic does explode and take it to a crazy level (which I KNOW he can) that almost guarantees Real takes him back. Kova loan and Eden contract situ are two HUGE clouds (plus, obviously striker) we are facing.

Wonder how this will go down with the 3 he mentioned. I can totally see Willian and Morata having a fit. They do not respond well to being called out.

I am where you are at in all this. It is becoming a huge distraction, and the January and then summer windows are our last 2 chances to get anything for him remotely near the £200m he is worth. Next summer we will be damn lucky to get a pound over £125m, maybe even as low as £100m. If we also lose Kovacic that means we HAVE to have New CF (£70m to £150m) New LW (Hazard replacement,so a huge drop but still will cost £70m plus (for say Chiesa), unless we can somehow prise away Asensio in a swap) New RW Bailey (£70m plus) New CMF/AMF (to replace Kovacic) £60m plus that's £270m on low end, to £350m or so on high end meaning a net spend of £145m (IF we get £125m for Eden AND spend the lowest) to possibly £250m NET on the high end that also doesn't address any other positions (ie a true AMF, IF we can keep Kovacic or get a similar player and move them to Kante's place at time (that assumes Kante,Barkley and RLC all end up fails, so not ready to call this YET) LB (I think we will just roll with Alonso, for better o rfor worse, at thsi point) RB (the same as LB) CB (I don't see a move here either, unfortunately) I do NOT see us selling Willian, so maybe (disastrously so) we will NOT buy a new RW (ie Bailey), unless we move Willian to LW to replace (well fill the same airspace, lol) as Eden The only ones who will go for sure Drinkwater, Moses, Cahill, Morata (obviously, if we keep him I know the fix is in with Roman),Tiémoué Bakayoko, maybe Zappacosta will demand a transfer, THEN we also have to fill RB b/u NONE of the others are for sure sales at all (and even 2 of those above, Moses and Zappa are not at all guaranteed sales) I have really dialed down all hope major moves, meaning a distinct possibility of losing Eden, and only bringing in a CF and MAYBE a new MF, IF Kova leaves I really think Willian is going to be renewed and will be our starting RW or LW ( IF Hazard leaves) for the next 2 years The ABSOLUTE best possible outcome I can see in all honesty (if Hazard leaves), and even this is a pipe dream Kovacic stays (very iffy as RM are fucking ruthless snakes) We take the Hazard money and buy Icardi or Dybala, maybe roll dice on Piatek RW we buy Bailey, and play Willian and CHO at LW (Bailey can play LW too,so all our wingers can switch sides) hold onto all others (other than the few sales I listed above) and loan out Bats, RLC and that's THE best I can hope for IF Eden leaves/is sold it could go far worse, especially at striker and the wingers,and in MF, if we lose Kova tbh, I don't even know IF we try and buy Kovacic on a perm at this point, as I really think the tap may soon be completely cut off until / if the club is sold as you see, my expectations are diminishing daily in terms of team personnel