Everything posted by Vesper
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I have been thinking about it since he said he was Audi 5000
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I have combined two long posts just so we have a definitive accounting of Marina and the board's absolute shit financial acumen we certainly could have had an absolute PILE of cash if board and Marina had not fucked about trying to rape other teams when they made decent offers for dregs and fucked up contract management which led to panic under market value sales, plus made a shit tonne of shit buys we lost £130m combined or so via not selling Courtois and Eden in a timely fashion Marcos Alonso Marina turned down £45m from Real, demanded £55m, now we will be DAMN lucky to get £20m, and likely less, or even nothing, I say we end up losing £30m of the 45m Willian £65m pure loss from non sale to Barca we are already up to £225m, just from those cockups there is Havertz and Sancho bought right there but it gets worse we could have purchased Alisson in 2017 for like £50m LESS than Kepa cost in 2018, he was my number one value GK target that year (this year I have two Ugurcan Cakir and Predrag Rajkovic) Michy Batshuayi fucking Marina demanding £45m, grr, when we has offers for 35m, we will be lucky to get £15m, so a £20m loss versus what we should have taken Emerson Palmieri I will call this a £10m loss from what we could have gotten so far up to £305m shit away I am not dealing with Azpi or the CB's, too fluid, we have made no huge money mistakes SO FAR, and I think keeping Azpi was oki, as much as I bitch about him (mostly when we fucking play him at LB!) the point of thsi rant is strictly money shit away, NOT how much money we can raise by selling players who we need now IF we do not buy anyone (so I am not listing any CB's or Kante, or Jorginho, etc) so onto the cockups Bakayoko we fucking should have taken the reduced £35m offers and called it a day, NOT have fucking Marina demand £42m grrrr, I think we lose £15m of the 35m, so a £20m loss Drinkwater end of day, counting Salary, we will lose (at minum) £50m (CUNTS all-round!, him, the board, Marina can all fuck right off) up now to £375m shit away Moses, we will lose around £15m versus a timely sale high price of £20m we should have done multiple years ago Pedro I am going to put down as a wash, we got fair use out of him, and never really could have sold him for any sort of big quid Baba Rahman £20m minimum, shit away Kenedy £15m loss minimum versus a timely sale Zappacosta probably around £10m shit away Higs, completely shit away over £17m I cannot count Marco van Ginkel, we and he just had tragic bad luck with massive injuries Luiz around £23m shit away versus us turning down 35m ) (£32m at the time) euros from PSG in 2018 and the 9m or so we got £475m shit away in total cockups since summer of 2017, just from those listed in what we got or what we wasted, that is all money we could have had to spend on replacements even if I am off by a massive £75m (not a chance) it is still £400m down the loo, never to return and that pile of quid doesn't count sales revenue from other players we might sell, so YES, we so could have easily had both, even after buying replacements for some of those dregs or poor priced sales or good or great players NOW, to be fair let's tally up her 'above normal profits' deals along with the board's decisions (and to do this I have to go back 2 window further than my summer of 2017 onward £475m in cock-ups calculation) I am going to very generous as well we got (arguably as Conte cocked it all up, and I think we could have sold him for close to what Atleti paid, IF we had sold him straight away in the summer of 2017, coming off a great season with us as champions) £15m more than he was worth AT THE TIME for Costa we got (and China was paying insane money at the time, so the main thing that was great was that we took the cash) £19m more than Oscar was worth (again I am being very generous with these profits) we got £54m and he was worth around £35m We also ripped off Sunderland for around £6m for Papy Djilobodji We got around £10m more than we should have for Matic (Mou wanted him bad) I will be generous and say we basically broke even on Square, as we only lost £4m overall (counting loan fees and the £18m sale, as he was older) Morata I will be really generous again and say we made £15m than he was worth Ake is a wash, becuase even though he is worth far more than we sold him for, we did put in a option to buy,and did not use it, so I give this a zero loss (as I am strictly dealing with sales prices versus relative values) so (as those are all the 'good' sales from the time period) add all that up £65m to the good so knock my £475m down to £410m in cockups BUT (and I am sure you know where I am going next) Mo Mo MO Salah SMDH we sold him (counting loan fees) for around a £6.5m profit, BUT no option (just like De Bruyne, grrrr) so, just taking his Roma to Victimpool sale price, we lost a net £17m, and if you look at hsi value now (pre Covid) we lost over £100m in potential value (we can figure the true cost when Liverpool sells him, BUT, that does NOT take into account the fucking MASSIVE difference he would have made as our LWer for all those years) so even giving Marina and the board, every benefit of the doubt, we are down £410m (that counting all her 'great deals) PLUS whatever massive value you assign to the Salah cock-up (do not even get me started on De Bruyne and the board and Mou) I also am not going to get into Kante, as COVID-19 has fucked that all to hell, and also Jorginho (I am sure it sis bullshit, but multiple reports were saying a £35m sale to Juve, which is madness) bottom line, is, over the past 4 years, when you give Salah a decent valuation, Marina and/or the board (and the scouting department, they are far from blameless as well) are still completely on track for damn near half a billion quid shit away, in a truly wondrous variety of dodgy ways. even taking into account all the speculative profits off the always-referenced 'wonder deals' above
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only 5m euros less total than the option they already have
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if we had done proper business since 2016/17 we could have bought them both, especially with COVID-19 discounts flying around it took a global pandemic virus to drive home my ever-present future-forward thinking mantra SMDH it is insane to consistently turn down huge money of meh players and end up holding them until their contracts run out or force a bargain-bin sale or they just age out plus the scouting department has been horrific other than a few good one (so far, hopely better than just good soon,) buys (plus the one huge win, Kante) the Drinkwater toss-off alone deserves the rope and a tree I actually think IF we had not had the bans, we might not have even bought Kovacic perm but it is what it is now, grrr it is hard to compare Sancho and Haverts, as they are different types of players I want both, but Havertz is the more likely that said, I expect fuckall to be done, lol sob
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now you are thinking like a boss welcome to the club
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Friday May 22 2020 Football Nerd Why Bayer Leverkusen's Kai Havertz is so highly rated By Daniel Zeqiri Kai Havertz scores twice at away at Werder Bremen CREDIT: GETTY IMAGES Through football's coronavirus hiatus, we are committed to providing a weekly newsletter of facts, analysis and retrospectives. If there is a topic you want us to cover please email [email protected]. Above all, stay safe. The Bundesliga is still just about a five-horse title race with eight games remaining, and the pick of Saturday's fixtures sees fifth-place Bayer Leverkusen travel to Borussia Monchenglabach in third. Leverkusen are without a Bundesliga title in their history, with five runners-up finishes earning them the disparaging moniker 'Bayer Neverkusen', and they will probably be bridesmaids again, with a top-four finish a more realistic target. The 2002 Champions League finalists possess some exciting young talents in Leon Bailey and Moussa Diaby, but 20-year-old playmaker Kai Havertz is the jewel in their crown. The German has eight goals and five assists in the Bundesliga this season, and, before the coronavirus pandemic, was linked with with Manchester United and Liverpool. BT Sport pundit and former Bayern Munich player Owen Hargreaves describes Havertz as "half-Ozil, half-Ballack", which would be quite the creative hybrid. Only Thomas Muller has created more chances from open play this season than Havertz's 49, while only Muller and Serge Gnabry have created more 'big chances' than Havertz's 15. This a tremendous level of productivity for such a young player. In an era when coaches value aggressive pressing and structured patterns of play, the stock of free-spirited No 10s such Mesut Ozil and James Rodriguez has fallen. Havertz could follow the likes of Kevin De Bruyne as the prototype of the modern attacking midfielder, combining goal-threat and dribbling as well as an eye for a pass. Like Ozil, Havertz is heavily left-footed and could run through puddles without making a splash. At almost six-foot two inches tall, his height gives him an elegance that stands comparisons with Kaka before injuries curtailed the Brazilian's career. He made an excellent return to action on Monday with two goals in Leverkusen's victory at Werder Bremen. Although silent stadiums make watching football a hollowed-out and greatly devalued spectacle, there is still much to appreciate in the game itself as Borussia Dortmund's four goals proved last week. Havertz is a fine reason to tune in again.
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lets tally up her 'above normal profits' deals along with the board's decisions (and to do this I have to go back 2 window further than my summer of 2017 onward £475m in cock-ups calculation) I am going to very generous as well we got (arguably as Conte cocked it all up, and I think we could have sold him for close to what Atleti paid, IF we had sold him straight away in the summer of 2017, coming off a great season with us as champions) £15m more than he was worth AT THE TIME for Costa we got (and China was paying insane money at the time, so the main thing that was great was that we took the cash) £19m more than Oscar was worth (again I am being very generous with these profits) we got £54m and he was worth around £35m We also ripped off Sunderland for around £6m for Papy Djilobodji We got around £10m more than we should have for Matic (Mou wanted him bad) I will be generous and say we basically broke even on Square, as we only lost £4m overall (counting loan fees and the £18m sale, as he was older) Morata I will be really generous again and say we made £15m than he was worth Ake is a wash, becuase even though he is worth far more than we sold him for, we did put in a option to buy,and did not use it, so I give this a zero loss (as I am strictly dealing with sales prices versus relative values) so (as those are all the 'good' sales from the time period) add all that up £65m to the good so knock my £475m down to £410m in cockups BUT (and I am sure you know where I am going next) Mo Mo MO Salah SMDH we sold him (counting loan fees) for around a £6.5m profit, BUT no option (just like De Bruyne, grrrr) so, just taking his Roma to Victimpool sale price, we lost a net £17m, and if you look at hsi value now (pre Covid) we lost over £100m in potential value (we can figure the true cost when Liverpool sells him, BUT, that does NOT take into account the fucking MASSIVE difference he would have made as our LWer for all those years) so even giving Marina and the board, every benefit of the doubt, we are down £410m (that counting all her 'great deals) PLUS whatever massive value you assign to the Salah cock-up (do not even get me started on De Bruyne and the board and Mou) I also am not going to get into Kante, as COVID-19 has fucked that all to hell, and also Jorginho (I am sure it sis bullshit, but multiple reports were saying a £35m sale to Juve, which is madness) bottom line, is, over the past 4 years, when you give Salah a decent valuation, Marina and/or the board (and the scouting department, they are far from blameless as well) are still completely on track for damn near half a billion quid shit away, even taking into account all the speculative profits off the always-referenced 'wonder deals' above so they can sod the hell off
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If this goes through, I hope every fucking Geordie who is oki with this chokes on a hallal cock. Mind-boggling we are letting these global mass-murdering terrorists buy a fucking English club.
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horrid board only the SIBNEFT mafia can shit away (more likely than not) close to half a billion quid and still be allowed to hold the reigns of power
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so fucked if true, what the fuck are the EPL and the FA thinking???? this is massively dismaying fucking murderous head-choppers invading our football Bin Salman on brink of Newcastle takeover https://www.besoccer.com/new/bin-salman-on-brink-of-newcastle-takeover-837122 The Premier League have reportedly given the green light to the purchase of Newcastle United by Mohammed Bin Salman, according to the official news channel of the Saudi Arabian government
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I think the club is freaked out (like all the others) about the financial impact long term of COVID-19. UEFA should suspend FFP for 12 to 24 months to let the clubs ride this shite out (and NO, Shitty doesn't not get a RETRO pass, those cunts still had damn well better get that 2 year ban, as they broke the rules LONG before COVID came to town)
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Dayot Upamecano is a steal at 40m euros (£35.8m) (what Leipzig supposedly want due to COVID-19)
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he is shit, as is Xhaka I like Ceballos a bit, who is a completely different type of MF, but is not suited for the EPL, he should go play for a Spanish team not named Barca or Real or Atletico, he could be a great addition for a team like Valencia or Seville or Real Sociedad
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40m euros (£35.8m) is a fucking steal for Dayot Upamecano
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pocket thug wants out Agent of disgruntled Arsenal midfielder confirms his client wants out https://www.teamtalk.com/news/lucas-torreira-agent-confirms-arsenal-midfielder-wants-out?utm_source=Bibblio-TT-RHC The agent of Arsenal midfielder Lucas Torriera has confirmed that his client would like to return to Serie A only two years after his move to the Premier League. Torreira joined the Gunners from Sampdoria under the stewardship of former Arsenal boss Unai Emery and he settled well in his first season, playing 34 of his side’s 38 top-flight games.
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I fucking hate 'em unless it is a crucial place-clinching or title-clinching game versus the club we need to lose or draw, I am 1000000% in on the bindippers losing every time I watch the cunts other than v spuds if the game is meaningless
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A coupe weeks ago, maybe 3 or 4 even, not exactly sure, I started to really feeling like there is a 50/50 possibility that we make zero moves, or maybe one max look at what is happening now I already knew Giroud had been renewed, so thsi is no surprise but now we also renewed a soon to be 39 yo Willy at keeper Emerson is now talking about staying I see ZERO credible links for any CB, and Lamps has said he is happy with the 4 he has (we also have Ampadu coming back from loan and Marc Guehi) I see nothing of a concrete nature that say we are even trying for Sancho (BD says no contact from us since January) nor Havertz same for all strikers plus we have a shit tonne of dregs coming back from loans and we are going to HARD pressed to sell trash like Drinkwater, Bakayoko, Bats, Baba, etc I worked it all up the other day and since summer 2017, counting projected sales revenue for all the dregs (vastly reduced) and counting shit sales, refusual to sell in a timely fashion, horrific contractual management, botched sales, botched buys, and horrid buys Marina and the board will have ended up costing us around (this is insane) a loss of potential revenue and wasted cash of £475m, (not joking at all) damn near half a billion in money we should have had to spend then and now, versus what we ended up doing it is madness I can easily see nothing else happening this window, maybe maybe, maybe we make a lowball offer for Chilwell (and Leicester probably tells us to go fuck ourselves) it would be par for the course
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shoot me now Emerson ‘in no rush’ to leave Chelsea https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/chelsea-fc-transfer-rumours-news/2020/5/21/21265976/emerson-in-no-rush-to-leave-chelsea A few years ago, I was vacationing on the island of St. Kitts, and out there on Reggae Beach, amid all the lobster and the bucket-o’-beers, I was introduced to the concept of “rushing slowly”. Like The Matrix, you have to experience it to truly know it, but I imagine Emerson’s experiencing something similar at the moment as well. Minus the tropical weather. He’s in no hurry to leave London. He knows that eventually he’ll end up back in Italy. All roads lead back to the Serie A, after all. But not yet. Emerson has been linked with Juventus, among a few others in Serie A, and he certainly wouldn’t mind a reunion with Maurizio Sarri. But with two years left on his Chelsea contract and plenty of respect for Frank Lampard as well, he’s not pushing for an exit. Chelsea had been planning a major squad overhaul this summer, but the COVID-19 pandemic will surely scupper, at least in some part, those plans, and create new financial incentives for keeping players and their current clubs. Emerson is in no rush to leave, and Chelsea appear in no rush to sell.
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Kepa goes full Pavard
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seems a strange swap I would take Lacazette all day long over Lemar
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we certainly could have had the cash if the board had not fucked about trying to rape other teams when they made decent offers for dregs and fucked up contract management which led to panic under market value sales, plus made a shit tonne of shit buys we lost £130m or so via not selling Courtois and Eden in a timely fashion Marcos Alonso Marina turned down £45m from Real, demanded £55m, now we will be DAMN lucky to get £20m, and likely less, or even nothing, I say we end up losing £30m of the 45m Willian £65m pure loss from non sale to Barca we are already up to £225m, just from those cockups there is Havertz and Sancho right there we could have purchased Alisson in 2017 for like £50m LESS than Kepa cost in 2018, he was my number one value GK target that year (this year I have two Ugurcan Cakir and Predrag Rajkovic) Michy Batshuayi fucking Marina demanding £45m, grr, when we has offers for 35m, we will be lucky to get £15m, so a £20m loss versus what we should have taken Emerson Palmieri I will call this a £10m loss from what we could have gotten so far up to £305m shit away I am not dealing with Azpi or the CB's, too fluid, we have made no huge money mistakes SO FAR, and I think keeping Azpi was oki, as much as I bitch about him (mostly when we fucking play him at LB!) the point of thsi rant is strictly money shit away, NOT how much money we can raise by selling players who we need now IF we do not buy anyone (so I am not listing any CB's or Kante, or Jorginho, etc) so onto the cockups Bakayoko we fucking should have taken the reduced £35m offers and called it a day, NOT have fucking Marina demand £42m grrrr, I think we lose £15m of the 35m, so a £20m loss Drinkwater end of day, counting Salary, we will lose (at minum) £50m (CUNTS all-round!, him, the board, Marina can all fuck right off) up now to £375m shit away Moses, we will lose around £15m versus a timely sale high price of £20m we should have done multiple years ago Pedro I am going to put down as a wash, we got fair use out of him, and never really could have sold him for any sort of big quid Baba Rahman £20m minimum, shit away Kenedy £15m loss minimum versus a timely sale Zappacosta probably around £10m shit away Higs, completely shit away over £17m I cannot count Marco van Ginkel, we and he just had tragic bad luck with massive injuries Luiz around £23m shit away versus us turning down 35m ) (£32m at the time) euros from PSG in 2018 and the 9m or so we got £475m shit away in total cockups since summer of 2017, just from those listed in what we got or what we wasted, that is all money we could have had to spend on replacements even if I am off by a massive £75m (not a chance) it is still £400m down the loo, never to return and that pile of quid doesn't count sales revenue from other players we might sell, so YES, we so could have easily had both, even after buying replacements for some of those dregs or poor priced sales or good or great players
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the team may be the exact same, except with Ziyech swapped for CHO and almost ALL the dregs not sold who are on loan ffs at least we get RLC back