Iggy Doonican

Yes agreed F.B. though Mourinho and Fergie is a no contest. Fergie is or would if he had stayed been yesterday's man. As for the horse bitter sweet that me and my mates won a load of dough on Rock of Gibraltar unfortunately it was the same day we lost to Arsenal in the 2002 cup final.

Well i don't know about that. If Fergie truly loves Man United it's an odd way to protect your legacy by appointing someone who's massively inferior to you. He made a terrible choice. Mind you i'm glad he did can't see the man with the biggest head in football (size not ego) L.V.G lasting much longer either.

Your original post said you would like to see Fergie up against Mourinho why?. Mourinho was more then a match for him first time round so i can't see how a near retirement Fergie would have been close to getting anywhere near us in the last two seasons. Well choosing Moyes proves that Man United is an autocracy and that Fergie had far to much power and yet with all that at his disposal he chose the massively out of his depth Moyes.

Well that's a nice platitude but it doesn't really answer my question. Man United winning the league in 2013 was a great personal triumph for Fergie but it was a poor team. If he stayed i just don't think they'd have been challenging last season or this. Also you have to question his judgement in personally picking Moyes as his replacement.

His United team of what era though?. His last premier league team of 2012- 13 wouldn't have got anywhere near our current team.

You don't live in London mate try working or having a drink with a Gooner. The smug sense of self entitlement that they have had for years is fucking sickening.

Exactly. I remember when we played Arsenal in the League Cup in the late 90's. We slaughtered them 5-0 and all through the game they kept singing ''shit cups you only win shit cups''. How times have changed. Your average Gooner is so blinkered that they just can't accept that we have surpassed them in every department.

Do you know one of the funniest things i'm not sure if it's on Youtube F.B. is Idi Amin in a swimming race. He's so massive that he cuts everyone up and no fucker can past him.

Agreed it's extremely subjective but to say it will make things even more corrupt is as well. Football might be a global game now but that's not always been the case football's roots are Europe and South America. The example of the bare footed African against a billionaire footballer is one that's hard to argue against but it's never the twain shall meet.

Wenger gets on the megaphone and says '' We have the best and most loyal security guards in the country thank you for turning up in such numbers''.Love the side of the bus '' Thank you our 12th man'' by looking at the numbers present they should see the 12th man in another mile.

It's ridiculous that Africa gets more votes then U.E.FA. when it has no or very few professional leagues ergo Wales, Ireland (North and South) should only get one vote. The African nations and i'm being completely random here like Kenya, Namibia, Niger etc should get one vote between them. Blatter was hardly being democratic when he went out of his way to curry favour with the smaller nations just to get votes. What i'm saying in my second paragraph is every single person football fan or not knows that F.I.F.A is utterly corrupt. But they are rubbing people's noses in it by awarding the World Cup to Qatar almost saying '' You know those suspicions you have of us being bent well here's the proof and there's fuck all you can do about it. I have to say Blatter in the shit storm he's embroiled in his defence is almost like a 14 year old girl's. He's more or less looked sad and said ''Well haters are going to hate''. You said in your original post that there isn't a desire to curb corruption at F.I.F.A.. With the current regime no of course not but when you've got the F.B.I. breathing down your neck there coming under more and more pressure. If there is eventually a change of regime surely it's for the good of football.

Blatter got the African nations onside by giving them loads of money it's as simple as that. Africa has more members then UEFA it's ridiculous. Of course the U.S. didn't win because as soon as Blatter steps on American soil he'll be arrested and that's going back 10 years. Do you think it's a coincidence that F.I.F.A is based in Switzerland making them virtually untouchable. In 2010 the Sunday Times did a cash for votes expose Blatter promises an investigation there isn't one and Russia and Qatar win the bids. Everyone know's F.I.F.A is a crooked organization but Qatar winning is not hiding in plain sight it's showing just how corrupt they are. Take any person football fan or not and say we are going to hold the biggest sporting occasion in the world where they don't play the game, have no stadiums, and the weather can hit 120 degrees in the Summer they would say don't be stupid or someone's taking a massive backhander. Phadera Almajid a F.I.F.A. whistleblower in the Qatar bid claims it was a bent bid and noisily says so then retracts her statement paid off perhaps?. The Telegraph exposes that Jack Warner and his family were paid millions by a Qatar company after the World Cup bid the same Jack Warner who was arrested on Thursday. Michael Garcia a lawyer who's report about the bids is blocked by F.I.F.A. (i wonder why?) who then write there own report clearing Russia and Qatar which Garcia says is complete and utter bollocks. Some of the F.I.F.A officials are up on charges including racketeering for fucks sake it's like something from 1920's Chicago. If your the head of a massive organization of course you know what's going on and who's taking backhanders it's naive of you to think otherwise. It's a ridiculous defence to say he didn't know what's going on every company has a chain of command and the buck always stops with the boss in any walk of life. Finally and i'm going to put my England hat on here we invented the game, we have the biggest league in the world, a league that's watched by billions of people around the world and Qatar has a more credible bid then us?. Sour grapes? you better fucking believe it.

Well fair enough mate just say it Roman ha ha. Yes you could well have a point there. Vladimir Putin tells Roman Abramovich to pay for World Cup 2018Chelsea's owner is expected to invest heavily and take a key role as Russia hosts football World Cup Roman Abramovich, left, with other members of the Russian delegation in Zurich last week. Photograph: Anthony Devlin/PATom Parfitt in Moscow Sunday 5 December 2010 00.07 GMT Last modified on Tuesday 3 June 201415.20 BST Roman Abramovich, the billionaire owner of Chelsea football club, is to take a leading role in preparations for World Cup 2018 after Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin indicated he should "open his wallet" and help pay for the championship. Abramovich, who already bankrolls the Russian national team, was a prominent member of Moscow's delegation to Zurich, where Fifa last week awarded Russiathe right to host the competition. While he usually shuns publicity, the tycoon could be seen grinning and embracing other members of the delegation, including Arsenal and Russia midfielder Andrei Arshavin. Abramovich, 44, is expected to stump up millions of dollars as the country embarks on a £2.4bn plan to build 13 new stadia and renovate three existing ones. A further £7bn is needed to improve tourism infrastructure, in particular to build affordable hotels for fans. Putin said after Russia's win that Abramovich could ease government spending on construction for the World Cup by investing privately. "I don't rule out that Mr Abramovich may take part in one of these projects," Putin said in televised comments. "Let him open his wallet a little. It's no big deal – he won't feel the pinch. He has plenty of money." John Mann, a spokesman for Abramovich's holding company, Millhouse Capital, confirmed the businessman was willing to contribute "in partnership with the state". Last month Forbes magazine rated Abramovich as the 50th-richest man in the world, with an estimated personal fortune of £7bn. As the tycoon's wealth recovers from a bruising during the global financial crisis, the stage now seems set for his apotheosis as the saviour of Russian football. Russia's oligarchs are finely tuned to Kremlin intimations that they should support patriotic national projects: analysts say they are keen to avoid the fate of oil tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who has spent seven years in jail on charges of fraud, and is due to be sentenced in a second trial this month. The charges against Khodorkovsky are widely perceived as being trumped up in revenge for him supporting Russia's beleaguered political opposition.¬ Putin showed off his imperious treatment of big business in June when he threw a pen at billionaire metals magnate, Oleg Deripaska, and ordered him to sign a contract to save an ailing factory. After the roller coaster 1990s, when Abramovich built up his business empire through a series of opaque auctions of state-owned oil fields, he appeared to have inoculated himself from Kremlin criticism by becoming governor of the remote Arctic region of Chukotka, where he invested huge tranches of his own money. But he provoked anger when he bought Chelsea in 2003, leading critics to say he was neglecting his homeland, where many football clubs struggle with ageing facilities. Putin hinted on Thursday that the tycoon had still to fully atone for the purchase. "Mr Abramovich worked for several years as the governor of Chukotka," he said. "He didn't do too badly. Not many people know him from that point of view. Mostly they say he's the oligarch who bought Chelsea football club. In Russia, that's met with both positive and negative emotions." Abramovich, meanwhile, claims he is simply a fan of the game. In the past his Sibneft oil company sponsored the former army club, CSKA. And in 2004 he established a national football academy that has built 70 artificial surface pitches for schools across the country. The academy also paid for new training facilities for the national team, and forked out about £1.6m annually for former manager Guus Hiddink and his staff. Russian media reported yesterday that Abramovich was to invest more than £500m to build a new stadium on the edge of Moscow. The 44,275-capacity arena would be the "best equipped" in the world, they said. Mann denied the claim, but hinted that other plans were already in the pipeline. Several other Russian investors are expected to finance construction for the World Cup. Lukoil, the country's largest oil company, is building a stadium for Spartak Moscow, BTB bank for Lokomotiv, and the Gazprom energy giant for Zenit in St Petersburg. Euphoria at winning the right to host the World Cup continued in Moscow this weekend. Many Russians had perceived an unjust campaign against their country in the British media, and were jubilant that it backfired and possibly hurt England's chances. Alexei Sorokin, chief executive of Russia's bid, told the Sovetsky Sport newspaper yesterday that the English delegation was the only one to snub the winners after victory. "Gentlemen should know how to lose," he said. In a separate interview, Sorokin saidthat Prince William had offered "polite and laconic" congratulations

What are you on about? What has that got to do with Chelsea

What scandal is that then mate?.

It's not exactly Altruism at it's finest is it. He gave all the money to the African nations to secure votes. It's hardly a fashionable '' in thing'' to question someone's motives especially when the F.B.I. arrest half of your underlings. It reminds me of the lyric from White Riot by The Clash (R.I.P. Joe Strummer Chelsea fan) '' All the power is in the hands of people rich enough to buy it''.

I was 15 years old and was at the infamous game when Paul Canovile come on as a sub against Palace. It was without doubt the most shocking thing i'd seen at the time on or off a football pitch. It really was horrible and there's no getting away from it. Canners also got stick at our last away game against Blackburn not as bad apparently i wasn't there but still no excuse for that sort of behaviour. But as far as i'm concerned that was the end of it as i remember. We played Cambridge away on the first day of the following season i was there i don't think Canoville played but there wasn't any racist chanting aimed towards him. That 82-83 season was the worse possibly in our history and i went to most home games and a few away games and i'm sorry i don't recall Paul Canoville getting racially abused. He played about half a season in 82-83 and was much needed as we were dire in those days. He never got racially abused at Stamford Bridge i'm pretty sure of that it's 33 years ago and i might be wrong but i don't recall it. As for throwing bananas that's just utter bollocks i never saw it happen and besides if you were in The Shed in those days you'd have to be an Olympic javelin thrower to get anything on the pitch. There was a lot of racism at Chelsea but it died out as quickly as it came in yes there were twats selling Bulldog (i think it was called) but racism was never endemic at Chelsea. Although there's no getting away from it there were far right supporters amongst our firm and it would be naive to say there wasn't. As for Paul Canoville i've nothing but respect for the man and i can recommend his book he's really had an interesting life to say the least. And cheers for Sheffield 85 Paul a great night.

Sums it up perfectly. A country wins the rights despite having no football grounds and where the weather is able to hit 120 degrees yet they still fucking won. F.I.F.A has got blood on it's hands and the despot Blatter has been running F.I.F.A as his own personal fiefdom.

What Blatter did was ingratiate the smaller nations. Every one got a vote so all he did was get the smaller nations onside by bunging them loads of money. A vote from the Sudan has the same weight as a vote from Brazil and Germany. So when it came to the election Blatter would win because he didn't have to rely on the likes of Germany, Spain, England etc voting for him. There's a bloke called Chuck Blazer who was a high ranking F.I.F.A. official who had two apartments in Trumps Towers one for himself the other one for his cats!. He's after getting his collar felt by the F.B.I. and is going to give evidence against F.I.F.A. The alarm bells about corruption in F.i.F.A have been going on for years but as soon as Russia and Qatar won the next two world cups well that was the final straw for most people. Especially Qatar winning and just the logistical nightmare that will bring affecting domestic football all around Europe never mind the ethics of Qatar actually winning the bid.

Had to laugh when i saw that Tottenham's pre season tour match in Malaysia has only sold 19,000 tickets. The fans are calling them circus matches and that's very apt when some clowns from N17 are turning up. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal have all sold out 80,000 stadiums in Malaysia but i suppose the visit of Tottenham is like being promised the Rolling Stones and one of those shit tribute bands turn up. Frankly if Tottenham were playing in my back garden i'd draw the curtains.

Pretty vague that squire. Don't worry about it.

Azalea?

To bring up a three year old quote is pedantic and childish.

Well for a start he's from London and started supporting Liverpool in 1980 when they were the dominant team in the country. A lot of people myself included have a deep mistrust of people who started supporting the likes of Man United, Liverpool and Leeds in the 1970's when they come from London. Yes you are free to support who you like but while most of us as kids would support Chelsea, QPR etc and go to the games every week regardless of how well we were doing. Every Man United and Liverpool fan i knew wouldn't go even when they were playing in London. He wasn't showing passion it was nauseating a grown man going on national radio and breaking down cos his football team aren't doing very well is pathetic.

Fair and good points. Must admit i didn't take any notice of Sheva in the World Cup. Suppose his reputation was bigger then his actual talent. He was always a yard off the pace.