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What a shame (the sanction of the FA) ... Jose just defends us as do most coaches in the Premier League. There are two types of coach, first those who do not complain about referees, which are very few-almost I would say do not exist, and second those who complain about the mistakes of the arbitrators, which are most . Very few forum members you criticize Jose for his behavior and I will not understand why you do that. Jose Mourinho is only defending our team, we should thank him for his behavior because thanks to him and his behavior arbitrators not laugh at us. In the match against Southampton the referee did not point out a very clear about Fabregas penalty, and we later learned that he assistant referee told him that if he had been penalty on Fabregas and the referee replied that he had thrown in the pool. After the match Jose I do not criticize the English federation (FA), but it criticized the campaign against Chelsea in certain newspapers (such as the Daily Mail) in which they accused our players jumping into the pool. Jose just said that the arbitrators were enduring a lot of pressure from the press and that can affect your decisions. In fact, our CAPTAIN John Terry has defended the position of Jose. Jose Mourinho is defending us all, he is one of us and criticize him is to launch stones at our team. I can not believe that Jose Mourinho and John Terry are two crazy that harm the Chelsea. I think Jose Mourinho and John Terry only defend us and we would have to support them all together. Together we are much stronger

Yes, it's very interesting what you say. I remember when Courtois was in the Atletico de Madrid it was said that he was receiving videos every week to improve their technical skills, but I do not remember if someone was with Courtois in Madrid helping him and guarding him every day. I know perfectly Madrid and a young boy of 18 years (which had Courtois when he came to Atletico de Madrid) is so simple that he can lose his mind and go crazy with money and parties. The night of Madrid is very greedy for young boys and they usually are not prepared for this change of life. I also think Chelsea should create an office with club workers to accompany the players in the different countries where we have them loans and helping them to assimilate the change seen with money, fame and parties. If we have 30 young players on loan, I believe that at least two people accompanying each player on loan to help them take these profound changes in their lives. We all know what it is to be young and in those years have the company tutors and they provide advice to young guys so that they do not spoil their careers. That would be only create a new department at The Academy. I know if we already have that department (if we do not have it, we should create it), but it would be very interesting to be closer to our young players to help and advise them better. Very interesting your post, DH1988.

I give you an example. In 2008 Real Madrid attempt to sign Santi Cazorla but ultimately they could not because Villarreal refused to negotiate and Real Madrid did not want to pay the 56 percent rate and end the signing came not to be made. In English. http://translate.google.es/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffutbol.as.com%2Ffutbol%2F2008%2F08%2F27%2Fmas_futbol%2F1219818441_850215.html&sandbox=1 In Spanish. http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2008/08/27/mas_futbol/1219818441_850215.html I hope I explained well. Regards.

I want to mention to you all a thing on the subject of payment of the termination clause of the contract Messi, if we pay this clause. It is practically impossible for Chelsea pay the clause Messi because that clause, whose price is set at £ 200m, not paid by the team (in legal terms, not in practice), it is the player himself who pay this clause and the final price varies a lot with this little detail. I repeat that I am not from England and I do not speak good English, but I hope to explain to whole forum. I work on issues related to justice, law and legal terms (although this in Spain knows everyone), and if Chelsea were to pay Messi clause, we (in legal terms, I insist), we would to give Messi £ 200m and he go to the Spanish football Federation (LFP) and they pay for their clause, so it would be Messi himself who buys his freedom and then would come to Chelsea. Chelsea and Barcelona would have to not negotiate anything, is Messi himself who has to break his contract with Barcelona, Chelsea not having to negotiate with the barcelona. What is the difference between a signing or pay clause ?. If Messi pays its own clause is understood (in legal terms) that he has paid with his money (again, is only in legal terms) and the tax office or tax collector (I exactly do not know which word you use in England, but Spain is "La Hacienda publishes" services to raise taxes by the Spanish government) they would ask Messi he paid in taxes the 56 percent (56%) of the total sum payment clause because it is legally Messi he himself who terminates his contract paying clause. So the final price of the operation would be £ 200m (the amount that appears set to Messi's contract with Barcelona to terminate his contract -that as a clause for free agent) + payment of 56 percent in taxes for officce the tax or tax collector. So the final price of the operation would be more than £ 300m !, which is impossible for us to pay that amount. I repeat, I work in legal terms related work (although in Spain everyone knows this). It really is the club, in this case Chelsea, who pays the transfer, but in legal terms is Messi himself who has to make the payment and would require him to pay 56 percent in taxes. What do I mean by that ?. If Chelsea want to sign Messi is mandatory that we negotiate with Barcelona, because if we want Messi Chelsea fiche by paying its clause to break his contract with Barcelona (as published today DailyStar for example) the final price of the operation would more than £ 300m. I'm sure in the negotiation we will lower the price, but never will pay their clause, because in legal terms the price would be so great that we could not assume this. So I think Messi has changed its behavior in recent days for tensioning their relationship with Barcelona and cause them to be forced to negotiate with Chelsea, because in Spain it is lower the price of a signing by a transfer, regarding a signing by paying a clause. I hope I explained well. And I insist, has to do with legal terms of payment of tax in Spain. Regards. I add one thing to explain better. The clause of Cristiano Ronaldo are £ 781m. It is a clause that comes into contracts but that is abusive because with the salary of the player is impossible for him to pay the release clause. The Spaniards football teams put it to prevent players from leaving their teams. It is an abusive clause. It's a crazy clause, with a disproportionate amount of money so that nobody would sign a player to occur by breaking his contract (paying clause) and be forced to negotiate. But no one can imagine that such a high figure is paid. In fact, Spanish clubs have a verbal agreement to never pay clauses and always negotiate.

I think Messi with his attitude in the last days is just looking for down the price of his signing. Many players in the history of Barcelona and Maradona, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Eto'o ... also used this strategy. In Catalonia what people call this "THE SURROUNDING" and means as Barcelona itself is accustomed to self-destruct their own great players. If you look at history, most foreign players have been angry and for a ridiculous price, such as Eto'o, who was the best striker in the world and went for € 15 million. I think Messi knows this and he is trying to lower the price of his signing with this behavior.

I think the match against Newcastle is very important for the future of Zouma. He is now in physical fullness and has overcome his problem with the nerves that play impediar comfortable and quiet preventing him to give good passes and jump at the right time. He is now safely in itself and I think if Kurt is the partner of John Terry at Centre-back against Newcastle this will build self-esteem by making him a safe and mentally strong man, which can be a turning point in his career. On the other hand, if Cahill stays on the bench I think this will be a nice touch of attention to it and can make Cahill see that not playing well and for having wounded his pride he strives more and more from now. I hope to see Zouma - JT against Newcastle.

On second thought, I think today Varane has received a message that he is definitely not the starting eleven Real Madrid center-back watching the team that Ancelotti has put today. Keylor Navas, Arbeloa, Khedira and even Bale (especially for your injuries, and now in Spain many Real Madrid fans ask for your sale because accuse him of selfish) do not usually play in the starting eleven of Real Madrid. I think today Varane feels he is more a backup and not a major player.

Newsflash. Pepe will not summoned by Ancelotti, probably the reason is an unexpected injury. for the match tonight between Atletico Madrid v Real Madrid in Copa del Rey (same as Fa Cup) and Varane play in the starting eleven of Real Madrid. I hope he does not have his best game because if Varane play well tonight we can forget to sign him. I would wish to Varane a bad game tonight and a great future at Chelsea. LOL! Real Madrid also plays without Cristiano Ronaldo! Real Madrid. Keylor, Arbeloa, Ramos, Varane, Marcelo, Khedira, Kroos, James, Isco, Bale and Benzema. Atletico de Madrid. Oblak, Jesús Gámez, Giménez, Godin, Lucas, Mario Suarez, Gabi, Saul, Raúl García, Griezmann and Torres.

I was very surprised because some were saying that I was Kevin Woodfurnace and you asked me about the illuminati, and I did not understand anything. Now I understand that was the joke and who is the Kevin Woodfurnace. I just want to clarify That I do not know Kevin Woodfurnace, I live in Madrid and I prefer to keep quiet about what I think about the illuminati because it gives me laugh (obviously). I have seen that some forum members are upset that the way I write my messages (in the opinion of yours), I apologize, from now will try to vary the way I write my posts for not bothering anyone . But please, forget these jokes of children and keep talking about Chelsea.

I think this time is different. In Spain the newspapers say That Messi wants to throw Luis Enrique. I also think so, but the situation has now changed. he is not the player he was acclaimed at the Camp Nou, and Barcelona is in serious danger of not winning any title two consecutive years. Besides this the problem for not paying taxes in Spain. You all know the situation we now live in Spain with Catalonia, and many people believe that since Spain is pursued Messi with the issue of taxes. He was wrong (or rather his father wrong) but Messi has paid the fine and the money owed (€ 53 million in total) and still want to take you to court (could never end up in jail, totally safe) and many people in Spain think they do it to attack Catalonia, and Messi and his entourage also think the same. I think Messi is saturated, tired of playing in Barcelona and want a change. I think this time itis serious. I think he wants to come with us.

Perfect, but when you put "(even though you state your intention That was not) it feels like you're just trying to collect points" I just can me feel for your comment, I think you understand me, you're implying that I'd rather have points to speak normally (not that I can benefit collect points, I give to lIKE THIS when a comment has liked, not to reward anyone, I do it because I liked what he said another forum member or because I appreciate the information that he has put). I do not intend to collect points, and if there is a trophy for the points I give up and prefer not to compete for this trophy. I just pretended that a comment I had written in another theme of the forum would read more members. I give up in the fight for the trophy points, rather speak freely. I do not want to attack you nor argue with you, you're another friend of the forum and just wanted to continue talking to everyone about Chelsea. SPAM or repost is when you copy and paste a purely message. If you count the words in my first post you will see that are 178 words, in the second, however, are 329, which makes a difference of 151 words more in the second message to the former. I think I qualify repost a message when I added the words twice in the second message (329) from the first (178) I understand it as a lack of respect towards me. I've copied and pasted a message, simply copy a message from a previous topic which nobody was reading today, and I have supplemented with a comment I wanted to put Messi theme so that more people read it and continue the debate that other forum members had begun on the theme of Messi on Financial Fair Play. To suggest I do to earn points is unpleasant, but deeply respect your opinion, I just thought that comment breaks the harmony and respect in this forum. I again apologize to you and the rest of the forum, and not enlarge but this little discussion because the important thing is to talk about Chelsea and Messi. I do not wear much in the forum but if I was wrong or someone is offended by a comment written by me, I apologized immediately. That's why I apologized to you. I'm just here to have a good time and do not want to antagonize With anyone. I apologize to the entire forum you for responding, but only pretended to claim the respect that I have seen in all members of the forum for me as I do with all. And I promise that I will not return to answer anything about this little discussion.

I think the way you answer to me is not appropriate to the language we use regularly in this forum. I know I have written a part of this message on another forum topic, the topic of Wilfried Bony which was the most watched yesterday and today no one is watching or reviewed now, but we're talking about Messi and commenting our opinion on the Financial Fair Play and I have remembered the message I put in the subject of Wilfried Bony and I considered interesting retrieve that message to the theme of Messi to see who thought the forum my opinion the Financial Fair Play. But if you had read the entire message you'd see that I have added another paragraph in which I spoke about Messi, Pogba and paying the signing of them without being sanctioned by the Financial Fair Play. My message was not a copy and paste to earn points, my only intention was to continue the discussion so interesting that we were all having. I think your comment was not necessary because you give to understand that I just want to forum members for their punctuation and not for further discussion. I think your answer was not the best way, this forum is not a competition, it is a forum to discuss calmly and with respect to all Chelsea fans. I deeply respect your opinion, and I will not impose what you Have to write, but I will ask you to do it with more respect, with the same respect I treat any member of the forum, and I rectified my messages several times my mistakes, and I apologized if I could annoy someone. So I apologize to you if you bothered to you with my comment, I do not intend to offend, just clarify to you that I have not copied and pasted a previous message because I copied a previous mio message I thought you could be interested also in the theme of Messi and I added a paragraph but with more comments. It's very different, I'm not doing spam, just put comments where I think that may interest more members of the forum. That's my only intention. I repeat that I apologize if I've bothered to something, that was not my intention, I'm just here to talk about my team with respect, calm and much encourage you to have a good time (which happens constantly in this forum). I apologize to you and to any member of the forum that has been bothering with my attitude. Has NEVER been my intention to disturb or offend anyone.

No, Chelsea never be a joke. In fact, Jose this year has argued that "the Financial Fair Play is not being met now and only benefits big teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern". I do not say that the idea of Financial Fair Play is a joke, I say the application, how is putting into practice, is a joke. I see many teams spending money like crazy clubs and they are not afraid of Financial Fair Play. But if we want to sign any great player, if want to rebuild the bridge or if we want to improve Cobham Training Centre, us if we have to fear the Financial Fair Play. I only claim that if this rule gets put to all teams. Financial Fair Play for all the teams or for anyone

The Financial Fair Play is a joke. I think it is a rule to keep us scared because we have a president with money which he began stage presidents with lots of money in big teams that have followed after by Manchester City, PSG and other teams.I see that if that punishment to Manchester City and PSG last year, but their punishments were ridiculous. Instead I see other teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern making big signings without looking at the price of their players. This is a great suspicion that is constantly hovering our team. Whenever Chelsea intends to do some signing is the time when some very strange intelligent appears and reminds us as a threat: "Chelsea Care, we will penalize to you with the rule of the Financial Fair Play". Instead, City and PSG fichan new players and they flirt with everyone. Besides the signing of Messi we would pay with the help of ADIDAS, TURKISH AIRLINES, FIFA GAME ... I also believe that Juventus owe us money by the issue of Mutu and the UEFA sanction and we can put them to use in that operation. At any step, the signing of Messi we would pay with advertising revenues as it has done for Real Madrid with Cristiano Ronaldo or Bale. The problem is when you pay a fortune for Fernando Torres and we can never recover that investment. With Messi would recover that investment with insurance advertising. I just remind you that RONALDINHO which seems a retired since 2006 player still moves a fortune of millions each year. Messi still moves more million and above remains to TOP PLAYER. His signing would not hurt us to the Financial Fair Play, but it would help us to keep our economic accounts perfectly.I would like to see City, PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern with the same fear that we have the rule Financial Fair Play. The Financial Fair Play is a joke

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Is this true? I have read many comments like yours, but I do not know exactly that rule. It would be very sad that we could not take advantage of this opportunity to have players on loan at Middlesbrough FC and friendship of Jose Mourinho and Aitor Karanka. I apologize to everyone if the rule says that, I did not know this. I think another serious very good chance to reach an agreement as we have reached with the Vittese with the team of the Spanish Liga as La Real Sociedad, a team coached by David Moyes, who knows perfectly the English football and culture English, and I, who live in Spain, I assure you that La Real Sociedad is very similar to the English culture and the English football mentality. It may be interesting for us to agree with them. Sorry for having insisted on lending to Middlesbrough FC if the rule prevents give on loan to more than one player. Regards.

Hello everyone. I think now is a good time (now that's over the avalanche of games in November and December) to discuss the future acerca Nathan Ake. I think Nathan is next to Ruben Loftus-Cheek the best player which we have in The Academy. In fact, we can consider Nathan member of the first team in December although he has played with the U-21 for him to recover from his injury and he is now fit again. As happens with Ruben Loftus-Cheek, when I see Nathan Ake I see him as a player a triumphant look as big players with a mental strength out of the ordinary, with a supernatural physical abilities, body of an athlete and quality to be in the starting eleven of our team for the next 10 years. He is only 19 years (18/02/1995) oddly by the body and maturity he has rather seem to have 24 years. He is two years training every day with Jose and he increasingly has more experience but I see very difficult for him, because if a guy really guy, can be with the starting eleven in many of the remaining games until the rest of the season. The requirement is now our most sublime, and it is difficult to Jose bet on young boys in the remaining games of this season for that level of demand that involves an entity like Chelsea now. I think we have to seriously consider the future of Nathan because if he does not play every week his great progression can be cut. I have a dilemma with Nathan, first I think he should stay another season with us and training with Jose each day to learn of Jose lot, which is the best coach in the history of tactical abilities (in addition to their emotional capacities , intellectual ...) and may gradually go doing a place in the team. I think Nathan can be a leader and who better than Jose to make him mature properly step by step. On the other hand, I think that if when he has 20/21 years if Nathan has not begun to be habitual in our starting eleven I think it would be better for Nathan to get a good loan for him. I have repeated many times in this forum the possibility of lending players to Middlesbrough FC. Aitor Karanka, Middlesbrough FC coach was the coach and assistant Jose at Real Madrid, and they are very good friends, in fact, have already given on loan to Tomas Kalas, Kenneth Omeruo and Patrick Bamford Middlesbrough FC and they are about to ascend to Premier League this year and the 2015/2016 season they could use our players on loan in most games, given a boost to their careers playing in Premier League every week, Capital One and Fa Cup each week. It can be an ideal choice for our young players to mature professionally opportunity in a very favorable environment. Also, I think in this market in January or in the summer, we will sign a player for the midfield level of the Pogba, Ross Barkley or Khedira. A signing so would close the door for Nathan plays each week. I do not think that your loan will have to give in this market in January, but I think we should start thinking about how to manage the future of a young player privileged as Nathan Ake and if we would come give us better on loan to another computer (I do also like the option of La Real Sociedad with Moyes as coach in La Liga -I'm from Spain and I know very well to La Real Sociedad and they have a similar philosophy to the English culture, especially in football) or wait for him to have a brilliant performance in the few opportunities he's going to have on our team for the great demand we have now and that in those few opportunities he makes a spectacular demonstration of quality that will allow him to be in the starting eleven ours. I think it's an interesting debate for all of us. a) If we have to give him on loan now in this market in January. b) If the best option is to transfer it to Middlesbrough FC, La Real Sociedad team or other interesting for him to allow him to play every week in the 2015/2016 season We could get a great success as we get the loan Courtois with the Atletico de Madrid. Now we have the best goalkeeper in the world. Hopefully happen that with Nathan. c) If we have to keep Nathan until he has a chance to enable it to succeed with us. I personally prefer the option B. I think a loan for Nathan may be the best option for him to play more than 40 games in the 2015/2016 season and he acquires experience. I would choose a loan at Middlesbrough FC whose coach is friends with Jose and so he could give tips every week and know their daily performance. I think it would be very interesting to discuss calmly among all to get the best for one of our better promises. I hope your comments. Regards.

The Financial Fair Play is a joke. I think it is a rule to keep us scared because we have a president with money which he began stage presidents with lots of money in big teams that have followed after by Manchester City, PSG and other teams. I see that if that punishment to Manchester City and PSG last year, but their punishments were ridiculous. Instead I see other teams like Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern making big signings without looking at the price of their players. This is a great suspicion that is constantly hovering our team. Whenever Chelsea intends to do some signing is the time when some very strange intelligent appears and reminds us as a threat: "Chelsea Care, we will penalize to you with the rule of the Financial Fair Play". Instead, City and PSG fichan new players and they flirt with everyone. I would like to see City, PSG, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Bayern with the same fear that we have the rule Financial Fair Play. The Financial Fair Play is a joke

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Manchester City v Middlesbrough in FA CUP. Only 7 days before coming to the Bridge, Manchester City will have a difficult game against Middlesbrough. Hopefully our players on loan help us. I hope we can see Tomas Kalas, Kenneth Omeruo and Patrick Bamford in the starting eleven of Middlesbrough. I'm sure that will demonstrate its high level that day. Good luck guys!

I do not know exactly, but he still appears on the official website of Middlesbrough. If someone can confirm, please. Rectification / update. Thanks to mesousa. Jamal Blackman returns to Chelsea.

Manchester City v Middlesbrough in FA CUP. Only 7 days before coming to the Bridge, Manchester City will have a difficult game against Middlesbrough. Hopefully our players on loan help us. I hope we can see Tomas Kalas, Kenneth Omeruo and Patrick Bamford in the starting eleven of Middlesbrough. I'm sure that will demonstrate its high level that day. Good luck guys!

I believe that we must do everything possible to get signing Lionel Messi. The signings like Messi are what make change history of a club. I think Messi can change our history and with Jose Mourinho we can begin a similar stage that in his day began Manchester United with the arrival of Sir Alex Ferguson. With Messi not only would get at an incredible player, probably the best in history, with Messi we would get a player who would suppose the beginning of an era of legend that would make us go into the history of football as their day also happened with Alfredo di Stefano at Real Madrid. We have an almost perfect team you probably just missing you add a piece to our puzzle as Lionel Messi to be perfect and become a legendary team. Lionel Messi can change our history to definitely be among the best teams in football history.

Today was a good day. It was very important to win because so we do not initiate you a small crisis of results. Now we have only 2 games in the next 15 days and we will have time to improve our physical capacity and overcome our weariness. As we fit again we will return to compete as early in the season. Today is a day of congratulations to us all. Kurt Zouma is improving step by step and he begins to overcome the problems he had at first regarding his mental control and as Kurt every game played very nervous, it was as if he were eager to demonstrate their level and he gave passes with little naturalness and his jumps were too disproportionate. However, with the passage of time, step by step, Kurt is overcoming these problems and he starts playing more and more quiet every day and he begins to show that he not only a simple backupif not he can be the partner of John Terry and he increasingly demonstrates that forms part of our present and our future. Kurt is becoming a TOP centre-back. He is playing better and better. I am glad that Kurt has overcome its problems regarding mind control that made him play with nerves and now he plays increasingly showing its high level quiet. We must be quiet now. We must be very proud of the season we are doing. We are still up fighting for the four titles and purpose of The Quadruple still alive. Now relax and think only about the next game. Step by step. The next stop to The Quadruple. 10th January, Saturday, 2015. Chelsea v Newcastle. Match by Match.

Today was a good day. It was very important to win because so we do not initiate you a small crisis of results. Now we have only 2 games in the next 15 days and we will have time to improve our physical capacity and overcome our weariness. As we fit again we will return to compete as early in the season. Today is a day of congratulations to us all. Kurt Zouma is improving step by step and he begins to overcome the problems he had at first regarding his mental control and as Kurt every game played very nervous, it was as if he were eager to demonstrate their level and he gave passes with little naturalness and his jumps were too disproportionate. However, with the passage of time, step by step, Kurt is overcoming these problems and he starts playing more and more quiet every day and he begins to show that he not only a simple backupif not he can be the partner of John Terry and he increasingly demonstrates that forms part of our present and our future. Kurt is becoming a TOP centre-back. He is playing better and better. I am glad that Kurt has overcome its problems regarding mind control that made him play with nerves and now he plays increasingly showing its high level quiet. We must be quiet now. We must be very proud of the season we are doing. We are still up fighting for the four titles and purpose of The Quadruple still alive. Now relax and think only about the next game. Step by step. The next stop to The Quadruple. 10th January, Saturday, 2015. Chelsea v Newcastle. Match by Match.