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He shouldn't be giving the GK a chance tbh.

No idea how Werner didn't score?!

I agree with promoting other refs, but it has to be a gradual process. No idea what the standard is like in the Championship, etc.

I get your grievances, but it has more to do with the standard of refereeing here. There's a reason no English ref was selected to officiate in the last CL match day.

Have to get a second before Saints get another VAR decision in their favour going forward.

Werner just can't catch a break.

A while ago, but the point still remains. There are a few gems that are worth looking at alongside the duds.

Mixed feelings about the XI. Pleased to see Tuchel actually ring the changes from the get-go, but it seems like the same formation (CHO at RWB again). Hope we back bounce. Edit - Maybe CHO is playing on the wing after all.

We need to see a fair bit of rotation today to freshen things up. If that doesn't happen and we don't get the win, questions will be asked.

We bought Kalou and he didn't do too bad.

Werner cost just short of £50m - Timo Werner - Player profile 21/22 | Transfermarkt Also, price shouldn't have a notable impact on selection. Pick the best players for the job.

All of your points ring true to an extent. Players can be on a hot streak and continue that trajectory (Kante being one), but it's more often than that it ends, and you truly see where the player is at. The last point is something far too many fall foul of when silly season comes around and think we ought to be in the mix for said player. As you stated, we need to find the next big thing before they become superstars. Shame we didn't see it through with De Bruyne & Salah, to name just two.

People are probably realising why he remained in Holland for so long.

He should never be deployed as a WB. It's actually starting to get annoying at this point.

Two toothless performances in a row. Tuchel needs to switch things up fast.

The fact Werner isn't even on the pitch is unbelievable.

It was coming. Their one danger man scores.

I don't expect Juve to offer much threat going forward aside from Chiesa. If we take our chances, we should get the three points.

They've played Shakhtar at home already. The double header is against Inter. Another surprise win in either game could seem them progressing rather than dropping in the EL/conference league.

It was refreshing for a manager to take the blame for a loss and not make any excuses. Hopefully, we bounce back.

Werner on why he didn't take a PK -"First of all, I had pain in my calf and couldn’t go out. When you have fit players on the pitch, it is better they shoot than I do today." Make of that what you will.

They certainly are two great options. Theo's defensive frailties have always put me off him as an LB, but he's certainly improved from his time in Spain.

He's never been a DM, and his game is about breaking forward, as you stated. People are comparing him to those on the pitch tonight, with him arguably being the best midfielder on the night. Obviously not saying much but still a positive worth noting.

Turning out to be the all important signing for them so far.

He certainly made a case tonight for more game time.