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I also remember that performance but not the game. To say Willian bossed it however is going too far I think. He did well for sure but a part of the overestimation of his impact that day is the severely reduced expectation we have of señor Borges da Silva. We expect nothing so when we get a little we appreciate it a lot. That was his best ever game in the ten role for us, probably his best game as a blue full stop but I don't agree with the highlighted comment. Willian has played the ten role a number of times, particularly last season when it was probably true to say that Oscar lost his place in the side rather than that Willian gained it. Trouble is every time Oscar lost his position, Willian lost it back again fairly quickly and rightly so in my opinion. When playing as number ten, Willian carries the ball better than Oscar and looks neater, technically speaking. In terms of contribution however he achieves less. I grant you it often seems as much by luck as by judgement, but at least some of Oscar's round the corner passes and flicks, make things happen. Willian in the ten seems to me to slow our movement without adding any greater accuracy or penetration and he seldom manages to make a difference. Not even by luck.

You could be right. I've allowed myself to believe that he wasn't the instigator for some of these moves. Maybe I believe it just because I want to, but it is true to say that Jose has spoken at great length about why he wanted Costa, Fab & Matic. On the other hand he didn't have as much to say about others. At least not to the same degree anyway. Might this be a clue? Could be I suppose. Certainly it's a reasonable guess that JM didn't buy Willian, given the history of that deal and the boss admitted that Schurrle's capture was arranged before he returned. P.S. The squad was criminally shallow when Jose came back. At the time I felt we needed to recruit 8 players of the right quality to even make ourselves competitive. We have taken some steps in the right direction but there is still work to be done. Mind you I did also say that I didn't think the squad rebuild could be done quickly. 8 top class players that are available, and available to us, is a lot.

The simple truth, or so it seems to me anyway, is that our squad is very shallow. We are so short of quality that, except at the back, we have no opportunity to rotate without significantly weakening the side. Jose has made it clear that he'd like to rotate but does not feel he can.

You make reasonable points in this post as well as in your previous one. My own view is that while Oscar is not good enough to be our ten he is nevertheless the best one we have; i.e. everyone else is worse. This explains why he is selected more often than some would like. My guess is that Jose gets fed up with him and makes up his mind to try something else. Trouble is that after a while the boss gets even more fed up with something else. As for why Oscar might seem to attract more criticism than others, I think there are two reasons. One of those reasons is that his under performance has been going on for three years but I think it has more to do with the second reason. A lot of people have been very supportive of Oscar, tried hard to believe the tiredness excuse and hung in there hoping to see improvement. Now that more and more of them feel forced to give up on Oscar their reaction is similar to what happened with Torres. In the end some of the loudest voices criticising Nando were the very same ones who had supported him the most in the beginning. It goes that way sometimes.

No it didn't. I was by no means the only one but I've been calling for an Oscar upgrade since January of his first year. I have also been describing the he's tired excuse as a myth for just as long. As far as I can judge, fewer and fewer members here believe that Oscar is the future for Chelsea. Most now seem ready to agree that the player is simply not good enough to be holding down the 10 role for us. In my opinion it's been clear for a long time that we urgently need to upgrade the AM positions. I can't believe we'll allow another summer to go by without addressing it.

I'll offer an opinion on that in a minute but a more general view first... The half time stats summed up the efforts of both sides. We led 1-0 thanks to an own goal but neither team had had a single shot on target. Young Atleti carried virtually no threat throughout but they worked hard and pressed really well. As a result, they more or less shut down our attack, something which has recently become easier to do to our development squads. The fully deserved win against a tough opponent, on a day when we didn't play well, was satisfying but the performance was not particularly impressive and raises questions that will need hard thoughts at Cobham. I'm not suggesting that any of our players were bad, but only Ola Aina could claim to have been really good. It was a frustrating outing from Ola, frustrating in the sense that it showed how good he could be. It would usually be true to say that Ola has a mistake in him, probably one every 20 minutes truth be known. This game was different however, there were no errors at all that I can remember. As a result he had one of those days where you might start to get excited about his prosprects. Ola was restored to right back. I think it's a great idea to shift players around to give them a look at various roles but RB seems the right place him. The rest of the back four were all competent defensively but Atleti didn't really ask many questions until the last 10 minutes or so. Jay Da Silva didn't get forward as effectively as he sometimes does but then our passing was well shackled so he didn't have that many opportunities. He still managed to demonstrate why, as 16 year old, he fully deserves a place in our under 19 line up. Christensen played in the pivot and was more than adequate. Anders has been used there recently and I wonder if the club are starting to believe that CM, not CB, might be his future. Either that or they are just shifting him around to deepen his understanding of various positions, as they like to do with everyone. The Dane did well in both parts of the game; there were nice interceptions, good tackles, useful passing, a little bit of creativity and if the Atleti defender hadn't put through his own goal, Anders was there to have tapped in anyway. Christensen was partnered by Charlie Colkett. This was not one of Charlie's best displays; his passing was more conservative than usual, lots of safe stuff played backwards and sideways. Colkett is a quality player however and even when quality footballers are not on top form they still have their natural talent to fall back on. Class is permanent and all that so he still produced some good passes and two or three trademark beauties. These included one which led to the first goal. Brown and Abraham occupied the wide left and wide right AM roles. Izzy played a big part in the first goal, pulling down Colkett's great pass and beating the goalkeeper with a shot-come-cross that a defender could only slice into his own net as he tried to clear. Tammy has pace and power so he has cut a swathe through the youth ranks but, with apologies for sounding harsh, his lack of technique means that his chances at the very highest level don't look promising. Tammy was pretty ineffective throughout. His full back seemed able to match him physically and Tammy didn't have anything else. He was reduced to trying a lot of first time flicks and lay-offs, most of which failed to find a blue shirt. Up top, Dom Solanke had virtually no service and was pretty anonymous all game but, when his chance came he took it with a bit of class to notch the second goal. Personally, I'm in the group who like strikers that are fully involved in team play and who make a big contribution whether they score or not. I don't judge a striker simply by how often he puts the ball away. I know that there is another school of thought however. One that says goals are a striker's business and putting the ball in the net is what he's there for. In those terms Dom did what he had to do but in general play there was nothing from him to help lift the team's display above its lacklustre level. I've left the thing that worries me most, the biggest question for Cobham to think about, until last. Jerimie Boga did not play well. Nothing to be especially concerned about there, it happens and in any case the lad is not long returned from the latest of his seemingly never ending list of injuries. Jerimie is not progressing however. His strengths and weaknesses seem to me to be exactly the same as they were when he first came to our attention. His touch and close control are sublime. His graceful movement as he carries the ball past defenders is great to watch but attempting to do that is still an option he selects too often and far too many of his runs still result in lost possession. Looks wonderful, achieves nothing. I have defended Cobham very strongly. I've argued that it takes a long time to turn around a failing academy and that, unavoidably, it takes an even longer time to turn promising 8 year-olds into first team prospects. Jerimie wasn't here as an 8 year old but he is not Gael Kakuta. The first time I saw Gael play for the youth team I felt, and said, that he would not make it at Chelsea. I attach no blame to Cobham for the fact that this seems likely to turn out to have been correct. If, however, Cobham fails to help Jerimie make the most of what he has they are going to have some explaining to do. I'm not claiming Jerimie is a cast iron certainty to make it but he has enough quality to have a chance. There is no way that Cobham could give a guarantee to us, or to Jerimie, that he would make the first team squad. We are however entitled to expect them to teach him to make the most of his ability. I'm not seeing enough evidence that they are living up to that expectation and I'm worried about it.

I think there will again be more important priorities in the summer.

I don't watch Pogba so I don't know. I do know that The Bison had many great qualities but that he was, and is, technically limited. If Pogba isn't better than Essien then I'm not interested at any price, never mind the superstar numbers being chucked about.

I want to make a bet with everyone reading this post. I bet that, if you read the post to the end, you won't be able to avoid laughing. You are just going to laugh right out loud.... I heard a Liverpool fan on the radio the other day saying that every team in the Premier League would swap their manager for Brendan Rogers.

I'm glad we didn't play today. Our next 5 league games are on a reasonable schedule. If, if, if, we can win them all then City will be at least 5 points behind us and they will have only 5 games left to play. That will be a very tough place for them. I'm happy to have these next few games come along in a nice regular way, they're massive for us.

Thank you @petre.ispirescu, a very interesting read. I must say your report makes me hope that he really has signed with Chelsea.

In my opinion Jose has been too quick to talk up the qualities of a few youngsters. I think his comments suggest that a number of players have better chances of making it here than is really the case. If my feeling about this is correct then we will have to pay some attention at least to home-grown/club trained requirements.

I agree but only to a point. It is too early to reach a definitive conclusion but I see nothing wrong with a comment that says something like, I haven't been impressed with what I've seen so far, and indeed I haven't. If Juan is to get a chance to show us what he can do he'll have to impress Jose enough to get some game time. It seems he hasn't done that yet either. I don't mind if it takes till the end of the season before Cuadrado starts to show the kind of form we all wish for but I hope it happens by then. I would not want to see us start 2015/16 still searching for a solution at right-sided AM.

Was really hoping we'd get a cushion last night so RLC might get some minutes. I can't remember the last time he started a game at any level. Maybe more than a month ago. The lad needs a run out somewhere.

Even after he's retired.

I'd say that in fact he disappeared well before half time but even so I was satisfied with Oscar today.

I think Oscar started well and ended the half doing 'OK'. We seem to me to be playing much better than we did in the first half on Sunday and I think Oscar is contributing by pressing when called for and moving the ball quickly. I'd say this performance typifies my opinion of him, not good enough to be Chelsea's starting number ten but still the best ten we have in the current squad.

Indeed I'm glad you spelled out the way UEFA has adjusted the distribution of Champions' League TV money. Ever since the BT deal was announced I've been really unhappy about the way they are going to be handing a bigger share of the English contract to non-English clubs. Not because they don't have the right to do it but because it's English football fans that will be paying for it. For example, I'm pretty sure that, once their coverage begins, BT will announce that their sports channels are no longer free with my broadband. Anyway, the part of the Yokohama launch video that most caught my attention is where Bruce Buck talked about further sponsorship arrangements that were in the pipeline. The question will now become how the club should use the elbow room all this extra revenue will give them under FFP. The answer of course is simple. They should read the Transfer Talk section of this forum and sign every player recommended there. :)

Well said. I am strongly pro-Jose so you and I will probably find ourselves on opposite sides of a few discussions, but, everything you say about expressing your views, and your right to self-identify as a Chelsea fan, is entirely correct. I find it hard to believe that anyone would disagree with a word of it. I admit that I don't like the way you expressed your view and if you had any interest at all in my opinion I'd advise that you made your points in a different way. You are not subject to my veto on your style however, and nor should you be so keep posting please.

You know I've been so put out by the Bradford result that it's cast a cloud on all things Chelsea ever since. At no stage yesterday did I get excited, not even when I got back. It felt all day like I was going through the motions. This morning however the happiness has finally kicked in; we won a trophy and it feels every bit as good as it should. Better than good in fact because we beat that lot. COYB.

Thanks MrExcalibur100. The beauty of this is that it's a straight binary proposition. Either there is enough quality in the squad to play as I described, or there is not. Either you are right or I am, there can be no grey area on this question. The problem is, how do we decide which is which? We both watch the team so we've both seen exactly the same evidence. The fact that we assess this evidence differently sounds like an honest disagreement to me.

Not for all the others no. Only Spain (3), England (2) and Portugal (2), had more than one top seed in this season's Champions' League draw. Next season those countries will be allocated just one top seed by right. One country might be able to claim a second club in pot one but only if that club are the European Champions. Other countries will gain from the change. France and Italy, for example, had no top seeds this season but will be guaranteed at least one next time around. The situation for Russia will be even better. From my memory, Russia has never had a top seed in the Champions' League/European Cup draw but they will do in 2015/16.

By the way, it's perfectly clear what you're saying, which is what counts after all, but your post does contain a couple of typos which I thought I'd mention in case that's helpful. What should be the word unequivocal, has come out as, unequivalent, and what should be the word beat has appeared as beated.

The only thing, the only thing, that makes a person a professional footballer is that people are prepared to pay to watch the team they play for. I happen to agree with you that when I pay I'd like to see my team play on the front foot, dominate matches and win. I don't believe however that it's for me to tell other people what they want to watch or what it is they should choose to pay for. We'd both concede, wouldn't we, that it is up to individuals to decide these things for themselves. Neither of us therefore could, or should, presume to know why people do what they do. One thing we might claim to know however is that although some fans will accept defeat if the team plays well, they will not accept it for long. The attitude of almost all supporters is that if their team's results do not live up to expectations, then they do not consider themselves entertained, no matter what the quality of the football. No one who has ever read a fans' forum, or listened to a football phone-in, can be in any doubt about that. So what does a manager of Chelsea football club have to do to satisfy me and you? Simple, he has to win and he has to play attractive football. My point of view is that we do not yet have the squad to play beautifully all the time, and expect to be successful doing it. In my opinion, the squad does not contain enough depth of quality to make that possible. I therefore break Jose's task into two separate parts. In the summer he has to make more moves that improve the squad and we'll all judge him on how well he does. In the meantime however, he has to carry on winning. If this means that the boss must sometimes, or perhaps even often, compromise on style, then compromise away Jose; compromise away.

Great call. I confess I never saw it as an option. Kudos.