RoyalBlues

Couldn't watch the match, but the 3 points is all matter. Next.

The same old story, one side think he is okay, the other think he is very shit. Not sure all are watching the same match.

We all will love to, but it is just impossible.

And Coutinho topic is back out of nowhere Oscar just signed the extension, no way he will be sold next summer. Or if some of you couldn't understand it, I will translate it with yours language : Oscar is so shit, why do you even expect there will be a club who want to sign him.

Well we're agree to disagree then, I can go on until doomsday if necessary, but our perspective are so different and we might ended up still disagree about Oscar in the end. I prefer goals/assist ratio. You prefer performance. We will never reach one point. So I think I'm done with you alone.

That's why every no 10 struggling in this league, no one will do Messi and Ronaldo in here, except both themselves. Take Oscar to Spain, and you could be surprised. Yes that stats are all great, but I will do the opposites here, I am going with 'I care more about performance than goal/assist ratio' mode. Have they perform consistently good in every match they played so far? No. How many games Costa struggling and could not create barely a chance? More than once, more than two. Do you stopped by in Fabregas thread, and read that he is missing in big games? That's more than once, more than two. I agree Matic and Hazard has been good overall. But they are also have some off day like others. Also it is not fair to compare players stats from different position, really unwise, if not stupid. No, you can't judge anyone season before it is even ended. You couldn't say we already winning the PL. Why? because anything can still happen, you never know. Judge everything, everyone when the season ended.

All the players having a lot of off days in several occasions. Including all the player I mentioned, including Oscar, not just once obviously. Again I don't care about his performance, all I care is contribution, and Oscar not too far behind from other teams no 10 contributions in England. The Coutinho part is not for you. I am mocking the Coutinho worshippers in here.

Well, I am comparing the treatment the players get, not try to compare this player is better than that player in terms of skill, technique etc. Okay about consistency is debatable, but how can you compare one player is better everything than other when they're barely played at the same position? What you mentioned next is a different topic, as I believe it has been discussed couple of months ago. Personally, I don't care about his overall performance as long as he is still giving an important contribution on the field by scoring or assisting. I prefer this kind of player, being shit but did that, than having player doing okay performance in almost every game he played, but ended up only score or assist below 5 at the end of season. About every other no 10 comparison, my response will be in one sentence. Ozil is 26, Silva is 29, Cazorla is 30. We could buy a 'ready' no. 10 with a hope of much better performance. But Oscar was here before Jose coming back, he is the reason we sold Mata, Jose likes him, Jose gave him the extension, Jose still preferred a system without traditional offensive freedom no 10 when playing big games, we all think about the future.

Okay, if you guys think he is having enough playing time, then he is still one of our important player then. Also he has a good goal and assist ratio. So basically what the fussed is all about? Every player having an off days, Hazard, Fabregas, Matic, Costa. I am personally think in several games they're all invisible, or in strong words 'they're shit' too. The same applied with Oscar. Why Oscar have a different treatment? So it is between you hate Oscar personally or having double standard in this case. I'm still stick with the assumption it is all about the system Jose preferred, Oscar not playing in away games. And then when Oscar having one bad game despite scoring or assisting, woo people asking for his head. When he is not playing, woo he is not good enough. When he is playing, woo how come this man playing, we're all doomed, Coutinho this better, Coutinho that better. Basically everything he do is all wrong, despite scoring or assisting, in front of some peoples. Positive minded mate, don't be negative all the time about this fella.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2975396/Raheem-Sterling-tough-tackle-target-Cesar-Azpilicueta-Chelsea-s-best-left-Everton-equal-unwanted-club-record.html

Diego Lopez

Yes, it has been discussed though, it is the system preferred by Jose, he doesn't want to take a risk by putting offensive formation to make sure grab some points in certain matches. So I completely understand the decision to dropped Oscar.

Age is not my point. About the guaranteed part what I mean. Lampard didn't get that last time he was here.

Where do you get that minutes from? how it is compared with other starter players? My point is that when away he is not very often playing, if he is given enough time also while playing away, his goals and assist tally will be much better, but the risks is we could lose some matches, because our attacking formation leaves holes here and there. You choose.

Someone has to said : "we doesn't mind having someone with different opinion in here, but the problem is with how the way you expressed it, with 'f*** here', 'f*** there' never sounds good, and it is become annoying a bit" There I have said it

Because it is Jose Mourinho. When you ever see the teams he managed play attacking football consistently? Never

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2977499/Jose-Mourinho-says-won-t-try-change-Petr-Cech-s-mind-wants-leave-Chelsea-demand-huge-transfer-fee.html huge money, eh PSG?

maybe you could be right, because we never know what is his 'problem' actually (physical condition, sickness, his minds, etc). But for sure he is not getting regular playing time, and that didn't help him at all. As I wrote in my 3rd paragraph, I think it is almost sure because Jose preferred another system when playing particular opponents (big teams away), to get the points. Jose could stubbornly played Oscar in 4231 formation in every match, and I think we will get 'Tottenham away score' when playing City away, Liverpool away for example.

As a 2nd or 3rd? I thought more as a 3rd, so I'm completely fine with it, although I prefer Blackman personally

Well, any player will struggle to show his best if they're not playing weeks in weeks out. He is play today, dropped next match, play again next, dropped again, dropped again, play again. See how Salah doing at Fio, weaker league aside? that's what you get from playing regularly. So unfortunate for Oscar, against particular opponents, Jose prefer more a system that doesn't need Oscar style of play. I don't have a complain though as it is for the team first what is most important. Also in addition, he just signed the extension for 5 more year not long time ago, so whether you have to 'accept' that he will be stick around for a while now, or you will be 'forced dying to accept' that later

Jose has said it, but actually if we play the same team as last match, I thought we will win this comfortably.

Lampard must be 'jealous' to hear that

Time for bribes then, legally.

Agree, I think we don't need Varane, because we already have Zouma. Don't get me wrong that Varane is bad or something, but Zouma could have a future in here. Also I couldn't see Terry and Cahill, yes Cahill, will be released / sold anytime soon. They're English. So that already 3 for 2 position, with Ivan, Ake, Christensen as backup. I don't see the need of Varane at the moment.

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