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Jeremie Boga

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7 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

In Nba moves like this happen all the time. Clubs can send you wherever they want without asking you. We lost so much money on stupid transfers like Drinkwater, Bakayoko... Taking Boga back and selling him again for 30+ millions is smart business because we need that money. We are not charity organisation. We are losing this summer Willian, Pedro, Giroud, Kenedy for free and we can't afford to lose more money because of sympathy towards some Italian club or Boga. 

Again, just seems like over complication to me. If we are that desperate for 20 or 30m okay, but we are hardly skint I mean it seems like a lot of fucking about.

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

this makes no sense or cents IMHO

I also think you are underrating Boga as a player

Hes a half decent player but hes hardly an improvement on anything we have so I dont see what the big fuss is about. I mean I doubt Barcelona were genuienly interested in him and I doubt he would play here regularly if we signed him as well. I mean he strikes me as someone like Andre Schurrle, a lot of hype st a smaller club but in reality, average.

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4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Again, just seems like over complication to me. If we are that desperate for 20 or 30m okay, but we are hardly skint I mean it seems like a lot of fucking about.

Hes a half decent player but hes hardly an improvement on anything we have so I dont see what the big fuss is about. I mean I doubt Barcelona were genuienly interested in him and I doubt he would play here regularly if we signed him as well. I mean he strikes me as someone like Andre Schurrle, a lot of hype st a smaller club but in reality, average.

he would be a massive improvement over Pedro and more than likely over Willian

and you seem to have lost all perspective on money if you think a 20 or 30m pound payday is no big deal

the numpty board has shit away hundreds of millions and clawing back some is vitally important

just how many games have you watched him in? I have seen him play in 5 or 6 full games and he is vastly improved over his time here

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Hes a half decent player but hes hardly an improvement on anything we have so I dont see what the big fuss is about. I mean I doubt Barcelona were genuienly interested in him and I doubt he would play here regularly if we signed him as well. I mean he strikes me as someone like Andre Schurrle, a lot of hype st a smaller club but in reality, average.

Comparing Schürrle with Boga. Have you even seen Boga play this season? OMG.

 

I have seen him at least 5 times at Sassuolo and I will continue watching them and I can tell you, that he is a monster. I really don't like it when you bash a player that you never have seen play.Boga is the best dribbler in Serie A. Look at the stats he has. According to whoscored, Boga is a far superior dribbler than CR7, which is very likely from what I have seen.

 

No, he has no CR7 Finishing, but even when you look at the 20 goals of CR7 in Serie A, 7 of them were penalties. So 13 goals of CR7 vs 7 of Bogas goals. Now, take into consideration which Team has the better players. Now, you might say some shit like:"Ronaldo gets marked by 3 guys all the time".

So does Boga when you actually would watch his Games. His opponents are not stupid. They know that if we can Keep Boga out of the game, we will win it.

I could go on and on. First I did not even want to dignify your post with an answer, but I could not stand this post at all.

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Comparing Schürrle with Boga. Have you even seen Boga play this season? OMG.

 

I have seen him at least 5 times at Sassuolo and I will continue watching them and I can tell you, that he is a monster. I really don't like it when you bash a player that you never have seen play.Boga is the best dribbler in Serie A. Look at the stats he has. According to whoscored, Boga is a far superior dribbler than CR7, which is very likely from what I have seen.

 

No, he has no CR7 Finishing, but even when you look at the 20 goals of CR7 in Serie A, 7 of them were penalties. So 13 goals of CR7 vs 7 of Bogas goals. Now, take into consideration which Team has the better players. Now, you might say some shit like:"Ronaldo gets marked by 3 guys all the time".

So does Boga when you actually would watch his Games. His opponents are not stupid. They know that if we can Keep Boga out of the game, we will win it.

I could go on and on. First I did not even want to dignify your post with an answer, but I could not stand this post at all.

 

 

 

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if we renew Pedro and just let Boga walk to another club for a big price I am going to go bonkers X 10

renewing Pedro is instant proof that we are a truly fucking broken club

no way around it

I have never made such an absolute statement since I joined here, but ANYONE who thinks renewing Pedro is a smart move is one thick cunt who knows nothing about football

or they are just a pure troll more than likely

he is utterly rubbish at this stage of his career and will only get worse as he moves into his mid 30's

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if we renew Pedro and just let Boga walk to another club for a big price I am going to go bonkers X 10
renewing Pedro is instant proof that we are a truly fucking broken club
no way around it
I have never made such an absolute statement since I joined here, but ANYONE who thinks renewing Pedro is a smart move is one thick cunt who knows nothing about football
or they are just a pure troll more than likely
he is utterly rubbish at this stage of his career and will only get worse as he moves into his mid 30's


I love Pedro, but his time has come. But I am pretty sure that Pedro wants to leave us anyway. Don't see a renewal happening. Neither from our side not from his side.

I just want us to buy back Boga. My heart can't take a second KDB Situation no more.
The biggest issue Boga had in our Youth were his many injuries. It seems to me that he has solved that issue.

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I watched his game yesterday. The match itself was quite boring. Boga played a good match. From what I have seen, all of his dribblings were successful. He did not score or Assist a goal, but he should have gotten one assist if that one Sassuolo Player would not have missed a 100% Chance. Boga dribbled past someone and was in the box and he passed the ball to a Player that stood 3 metres in front of the goal and he shot against the goalkeeper.
Boga had two or three missed passes were he should have done a little bit better, but overall again a very good Performance. Boga is not as selfish as he used to be.
Problem is that Sassuolo are so bad, I wished he was more selfish haha.
Sassuolo was horrible and the opponent was much better. Gervinho scored a goal^^.

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2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

Another great goal by Boga.
I want my boy Boga back...

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we have to move for him if we miss out on Sancho

and tbh

we need to add him anyway

we are losing two of our 4 wingers

as it stands we will have (thsi si IF we do buy Sancho)

Pulisic

CHO

Sancho

Ziyech

BUT Ziyech will play at AMF at times (unless we shockingly make a move for Grealish, which I see as fading in terms of chances each day)

so IF Zitech is at AMF

and we have 2 wingers out injured (like we do now)

we are a winger short

that said

I do not see the board thinking like I do

so

I think we roll with 3 and half wingers

and if we miss on Jadon (my gut says he is going to Manure, which is a fucking disaster for us :()

Boga is a MUST buy

especially given Pulisic and CHO's injury history, and Ziyech's very slight frame (no quite Di Maria pencil thin, but close)

Di Maria, btw, has been an absolute MONSTER this year for PSG

top 25 player on the planet easily  (and this surely is one of his last top years, as he just turned 32)

 

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we have to move for him if we miss out on Sancho
and tbh
we need to add him anyway
we are losing two of our 4 wingers
as it stands we will have (thsi si IF we do buy Sancho)
Pulisic
CHO
Sancho
Ziyech
BUT Ziyech will play at AMF at times (unless we shockingly make a move for Grealish, which I see as fading in terms of chances each day)
so IF Zitech is at AMF
and we have 2 wingers out injured (like we do now)
we are a winger short
that said
I do not see the board thinking like I do
so
I think we roll with 3 and half wingers
and if we miss on Jadon (my gut says he is going to Manure, which is a fucking disaster for us )
Boga is a MUST buy
especially given Pulisic and CHO's injury history, and Ziyech's very slight frame (no quite Di Maria pencil thin, but close)
Di Maria, btw, has been an absolute MONSTER this year for PSG
top 25 player on the planet easily  (and this surely is one of his last top years, as he just turned 32)
 
I have watched the whole match and Boga was not that good in the first half, but he was very good in the second half. He should have scored maybe one more goal, but hit the post. Still overall great performance. Probably the best performance from Sassuolo I have seen my whole life haha.

BOGA is a must buy.

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5 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I have watched the whole match and Boga was not that good in the first half, but he was very good in the second half. He should have scored maybe one more goal, but hit the post. Still overall great performance. Probably the best performance from Sassuolo I have seen my whole life haha.

BOGA is a must buy.

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totally agree

I am losing hope each day on Sancho

especially if Manure grab CL (which I think they end up 4th or 5th and thus get it)

and a lock for us to fail if we miss out on CL (money matters due to FPP and loss of revenue, and he wants CL) which will be a crushing blow for us overall

we are insane if we do not sell Kante IF we keep Lampard (or another offensive manager is brought in) AND we miss CL

that £100m lost from a non sale will fuck us so hard

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Too soon, I don't think it's right time to buy him. 

Let him play in Serie A, enjoy football, get experience and reach Salah-Roma level. 

He's having ONE wonderful season. It's first time he has played two seasons for one club and he's adapting. If he come here next season, it could tack more ricks. I used to love him for a long time, I don't want his career to be ruined again.

 

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5 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

:dunno:

rolling dice on winning the Sancho sweepstakes it would seem

surely we're not going to drop fucking £85m on Leon Bailey

that is MADNESS (the price) as he is worth half that or so

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Jeremie Boga interview: Every time there’s a one-against-one, then I take it

https://theathletic.com/1683869/2020/03/19/jeremie-boga-chelsea-sassuolo-interview/

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Sassuolo are 2-0 up against Brescia when the news begins to filter through.

It’s around 8pm on Monday, March 9, and the debate between the league and the players’ union is drawing to a close. A decision has been taken. Serie A is about to suspend the championship until further notice.

Jeremie Boga doesn’t know that yet.

Hemmed in on the left-hand touchline, he is untangling himself from the spidery legs of Brescia’s Finland striker Simon Skrabb. Just inside the opposition’s half, he manages to wriggle free and get into his stride and suddenly, there’s no stopping him. “Maybe (over) the first 10m, I’m the fastest (on the team),” Boga tells The Athletic. “But long distance, Gregoire (Defrel) and the other Jeremy (Toljan) probably are.”

As the Ivory Coast international approaches the penalty area, Andrea Papetti, Brescia’s centre-back, must know what’s coming. His coach Diego Lopez presumably flagged Boga’s tendencies up during a video analysis session over the weekend.

The thing with Boga, Lopez will have explained, is he loves to come inside onto his right foot and curl one into the far top corner. Don’t let that happen. But Papetti can’t stop it from happening. He’s a 17-year-old kid and this is his Serie A debut in a defence that has been leaking goals all season.

Papetti wants to show Boga down the line. Every defender wants to show Boga down the line. But Boga has this knack of telling them: “Not today” and the next thing you know, he’s taking you inside and Lopez is thinking, “Here we go again”. Boga has Papetti right where he wants him. He’s on his stronger foot and he can see the top corner. This is what he’s been working on all season.

“Both better decision-making and being more decisive,” Boga, 23, explains. “That’s really what people look for in my position because the dribbling has been there my whole career but people only see it now because maybe there’s more goals and there’s more assists.”

The shot whooshes past goalkeeper Jesse Joronen and only decelerates when it hits the net. It is Boga’s fourth goal in six appearances.

For the moment, it is also the last goal of the Serie A season. While the league hopes to resume in May, we can’t be certain there will be anymore even that soon.

Currently locked down in his home about a 10-minute drive from Sassuolo’s training ground, Boga was in the form of his career and starting to realise the potential he showed in an all-conquering Chelsea youth team with Ola Aina, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Fikayo Tomori and Tammy Abraham. “I think our generation was one of the best Chelsea ever had,” he says over a cappuccino. “We had so many talented players. It was not easy but every weekend, we were so used to winning 2-0 or 3-0.”

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Seeing the club undergo a shift in mentality under Frank Lampard this season and turn a transfer ban into an opportunity to promote from within brings a smile to Boga’s face. He remains in touch with his old team-mates from Cobham via Snapchat and WhatsApp. “If I score or do something, they say well done,” he says.

Aina, the Chelsea player with whom Boga is closest, knows firsthand what a fine season the kid he used to play behind and cover for is enjoying. “You can see his reaction,” Boga points out, as we rewatch the January goal against Torino he considers to be the best of his career so far.

As usual, Boga drifts inside onto his right; only this time, he nutmegs Tomas Rincon, the mastiff in the middle of the Torino midfield, and detonates a shot that brings the house down. His pal Aina, playing left wing-back for the visitors, is helpless to do anything about it. He turns and throws his hands up in disbelief.

“I think he was angry because of the game (Torino ended up losing 2-1 having scored first), so he just said, ‘Well done, good game’. I said, ‘OK, you too’ because I knew if I were him and I’d lost like this, even if he’d scored a good goal, I’d just congratulate him. But not over the top.”

When Chelsea sold Boga to Sassuolo for €3 million 18 months ago, a buy-back clause was a condition of the agreement. The Athletic understands it has subsequently been increased to around the €20 million mark with the removal of a sell-on percentage.

His progress is being closely tracked and understandably so. I mean, when Boga makes Gigi Buffon look silly, sitting the legendary Juventus goalkeeper down and nonchalantly dinking the ball over his head at the Allianz Stadium in December, it kind of makes him hard to ignore. “This one just came with instinct,” he says, watching it back. “I don’t know how to describe it. My first thought was (to shoot) hard across the goal then, I don’t know, last minute it came to me and I changed my mind.”

Already up to eight goals for the season, Boga is no longer just a dribbler. But the art-form he learned in the streets of Marseille remains at the heart his game. Growing up in Bengale, the same neighbourhood as Marseille’s current centre-back Boubacar Kamara, when Boga wasn’t at home with his brothers and sister, he was on the asphalt playing a game called Coupe du Monde (World Cup). “It’s everybody against each other and you have to dribble to score. So since I was little, it’s always been one-against-one and trying to get open.”

The dream was to follow in the footsteps of other kids from Marseille, such as the Ayew brothers and Samir Nasri, and reach the top of the professional game. Sat in front of the TV with a plate of attieke, the Ivorian cassava dish his mother used to make, Boga got excited watching Hatem Ben Arfa, his future Chelsea team-mate Eden Hazard and, of course, Lionel Messi. Flash forward to the present and he’s the best dribbler in Serie A. In fact, you might say he’s in a league of his own. Boga is averaging 7.59 dribbles per 90. At the time Serie A shut down, he’d made 167 dribbles — 60 more than the next guy, Bologna winger Riccardo Orsolini.

“That’s my style,” Boga explains, “but over the years, I think I’ve improved. Before, I used to force it. If there were three players, I’d still try and do something. Now, if there are three players, I’ll look for a one-two or a pass. But every time there’s a one-against-one for me, an opportunity to go past a player, then I take it.” The softly-spoken Boga is maturing as a player. Gym habits learned at Cobham remain. “Core and leg strength to keep my speed and explosiveness. Since Chelsea, we always work on that.”

Where he’s looked to add to his game is not just in front of goal but in his off-the-ball work too. “My movement can always improve because the better my movement becomes, the more chances you’re going to create for yourself or for your team-mates.”

His attitude to defending has changed with time as well. “I think it’s positioning. But it’s mostly mental. If the right-back is off again, you have to go with him. If you don’t and they score, it’s your fault. That’s what I learned. If you want to play, you have to defend hard like everybody else. It’s not because I’m a winger or that I play high up the pitch that I cannot defend. I don’t have the choice. You have to defend.”

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Moving to Sassuolo was the best decision Boga could have made at this stage of his career. The club have punched above their weight for years through great scouting, networking and the willingness to hand opportunities to up-and-coming coaches (including Max Allegri and Eusebio di Francesco) and talented young players. Away from the spotlight — Sassuolo’s population wouldn’t fill the San Siro — and without the history and expectation of the Emilia Romagna region’s other big clubs Bologna and Parma, the less-pressurised environment is perfect for honing one’s craft and nurturing top prospects.

Players go there believing it’s a stepping stone to elite clubs such as Juventus (Merih Demiral and Simone Zaza), Inter Milan (Stefano Sensi and Matteo Politano), Barcelona (Kevin-Prince Boateng) and Atletico Madrid (Sime Vrsaljko), or a way back to a Chelsea (Boga), a Borussia Dortmund (Toljan) or AC Milan (Manuel Locatelli). “It’s a top club for young players who want to have game time or have a team where they can come and impress and then go to a bigger team,” Boga says. “Sassuolo is the perfect club for them.”

The new training ground is state of the art and Roberto De Zerbi, the current coach, is tipped to follow Allegri and Di Francesco into a big job. His contract expires in the summer and Boga says “he’s up there” in comparison with the coaches he trained under at Chelsea, a list that includes Rafa Benitez, Jose Mourinho and Antonio Conte.

Boga enjoys the short-sided games De Zerbi organises in training. “We do a lot of five-a-sides or 10-v-10s but in half the pitch, possessions in small areas, possessions in big areas but never in big, big areas. You have to think quick because if not, someone is pressuring you already. The mister (coach) has a good relationship with everyone. He’s tough. He’s always on to you but it’s for the best. After the work is done, he smiles, he laughs.”

Whether De Zerbi joins in with the players in making fun of Marlon, one of the centre-backs, is unclear. The Brazilian is often the butt of the jokes in the dressing room. “(Domenico) Berardi is on him every day.” Whether it’s the music Boga and Marlon play — “they don’t like my taste (French rap) but we have the booth” — or the Brazilian’s fashion sense — “he’ll dress really nice, put on a nice top and everything, then wear his dirty gym trainers” — Berardi knows no mercy. The vice-captain doesn’t come across as a joker but Boga insists he’s the life and soul of the training ground.

What the future holds for Boga remains to be seen. Higher-profile interest in him is percolating within Italy but Chelsea, no doubt mindful of what happened with his wideman predecessors Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Salah, still have a say. “When you become that good, it means it was always inside of you. So for me, I know it’s inside of me. So I just need the time to show it or maybe make the right decision, like coming here to the Serie A.”

The situation has changed at Stamford Bridge since he left. A once-congested pathway is now beginning to clear.

“When I was there, it was Willian, Hazard, Pedro,” Boga recalls, “When Mourinho was there, it was Salah. There were a lot of good wingers. For me, it has always been if I can’t play, then I will try to go on loan or try to go somewhere to improve, then maybe come back one day.”

At the moment though, all the last goalscorer in Serie A is thinking about is when he’ll get a chance to score another one.

 

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On 3/16/2020 at 6:36 PM, NikkiCFC said:

:dunno:

It is a no-brainer really. In this day in the market, his value is well over £30m. Getting him at the reported price is a bargain. He has live dup to his potential and is only getting better.

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With Pedro and Willian leaving, he should definately be brought back. He was realy promising for Conte in the begining, but then he didnt get much playtime.

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