spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 There we go again, hating for no good reason at all.It is why i don't like Fan views. It is the most bias out of all, because it's fill with hate views.Without causing an argument can I just say that it's you that goes opposing any view by calling them a glory hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Without causing an argument can I just say that it's you that goes opposing any view by calling them a glory hunter.No i called glory hunters those who did not support Carlo for this bad blip, after having seen the good season he did last season.That is glory hunter to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 my view is this (call me a glory hunter or not a fan all you want)I don't think Carlo is good enough to be trusted in bringing the youth through and even if we spent £150m in the summer I still wouldn't feel too confident about winning the league.Lovely man,I'm not knocking him but I think we can get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 There we go again, hating for no good reason at all.It is why i don't like Fan views. It is the most bias out of all, because it's fill with hate views.How on earth is the source of a Chelsea fans right to criticize Man-City biased?Facts:Chelsea earned a champions league spot, thus earning romans support.The two poster boys for Chelsea are Lamps & JT, two pre-roman players.Man-city (unlike Chelsea) did not earn a CL spot before the sheikhs came inCity have no original (pre-sheikh) players who have become stars like JT & Lamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 No i called glory hunters those who did not support Carlo for this bad blip, after having seen the good season he did last season.That is glory hunter to me.The word you're looking for then is fickle.Glory hunter means something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Hart,Richards and SWP aren't Man city youth products.We can laugh at Man city for the money spent because they have won zilch. One day we might not be able to laugh but for now we can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I don't often agree with him () but tx is right here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 my view is this (call me a glory hunter or not a fan all you want)I don't think Carlo is good enough to be trusted in bringing the youth through and even if we spent £150m in the summer I still wouldn't feel too confident about winning the league.Lovely man,I'm not knocking him but I think we can get better.Well that's the truth. He is not good in youth like Wenger. But he still is a good coach that can deal with the stars.Right now Mourinho is the best coach in the world, but he is not a coach of youth like Wenger, but of buying players.So as long as the team has money to spend, then you will nee these type of coachs.How on earth is the source of a Chelsea fans right to criticize Man-City biased?Facts:Chelsea earned a champions league spot, thus earning romans support.The two poster boys for Chelsea are Lamps & JT, two pre-roman players.Man-city (unlike Chelsea) did not earn a CL spot before the sheikhs came inCity have no original (pre-sheikh) players who have become stars like JT & Lamps.Because all you are doing is hating. That is why you view is biased! Hart,Richards and SWP aren't Man city youth products.We can laugh at Man city for the money spent because they have won zilch. One day we might not be able to laugh but for now we can.And yes they are. They are where with the youth team. Just like we have with Bruma, PVA, Kakuta and such. They are from our youth academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well that's the truth. He is not good in youth like Wenger. But he still is a good coach that can deal with the stars.Right now Mourinho is the best coach in the world, but he is not a coach of youth like Wenger, but of buying players.So as long as the team has money to spend, then you will nee these type of coachs.And yes they are. They are where with the youth team. Just like we have with Bruma, PVA, Kakuta and such. They are from our youth academy.The Wenger good with youth is a myth.No they're not. And you can't count Bruma and co. Just like you only counted JT in your other post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 And yes they are. They are where with the youth team. Just like we have with Bruma, PVA, Kakuta and such. They are from our youth academy.Incorrect!They played in the YOUTH TEAM but came from another teams youth academy. McEarhan will be A Youth Academy product, so would have been Cork. They were signed at 9 yers old and went through the academy to go into the Youth Academy, we bought Bruma, Kakuta, etc. from other teams youth academy's because we could offer something which those teams couldn't - a world class coaching (i would hope so saying Roman put it £350million). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Because all you are doing is hating. That is why you view is biased! So stating 100% pure facts is hating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 The Wenger good with youth is a myth.No they're not. And you can't count Bruma and co. Just like you only counted JT in your other post.Why is the Wenger with youth a myth? If he keeps buying cheap young players and turn them into stars?But who i think is better then him is Guss and Bielsa, that don't get much mention as him, Mourinho, Carlo or Pep, because they work with what they have and bring more youth. And I was counting JT back then, now i count Bruma, Kakuta, Josh, Sturridge, PVA and such from our academy. Incorrect!They played in the YOUTH TEAM but came from another teams youth academy. McEarhan will be A Youth Academy product, so would have been Cork. They were signed at 9 yers old and went through the academy to go into the Youth Academy, we bought Bruma, Kakuta, etc. from other teams youth academy's because we could offer something which those teams couldn't - a world class coaching (i would hope so saying Roman put it £350million).Well i still count them as our youth. Cause they came at young age without being big stars. Is like what Wenger does at Arsenal. He buys youth and help them turn into stars.So stating 100% pure facts is now hating. You can state fact, but when you label a team as "shite" then you are hating.Do you like it when people call Chelsea, "Chelshit"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 ignoring most of the recent points ...I want Carlo to stay for another 4 years.. I C I T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Why is the Wenger with youth a myth? If he keeps buying cheap young players and turn them into stars?Wenger is not the great youth coach he's made out to be. How many youngsters has he bought cheap and made into stars?Viera wasn't that cheap,Henry definately wasn't. Fabregas was poached young and at the time was considered the best in the world in his position.How many English players has he helped along? I can only think of our Ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Wenger is not the great youth coach he's made out to be. How many youngsters has he bought cheap and made into stars?Viera wasn't that cheap,Henry definately wasn't. Fabregas was poached young and at the time was considered the best in the world in his position.How many English players has he helped along? I can only think of our Ashley.Well not english but a lot of foreigners.....And Fabregas was poached??? like how? like we did with Kakuta?Fabregas left Barcelona, and he become a world class player at Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 You can state fact, but when you label a team as "shite" then you are hating.Do you like it when people call Chelsea, "Chelshit"?Lmao. I stated an individual man-city player as shite, not the football club, read posts carefully in future. Also, I've already canceled out and your point with unbiased facts, and why Chelsea fans have every right to criticize Man-city. If you wish to view those unbiased facts again, feel free to move your cursor up the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well not english but a lot of foreigners.....And Fabregas was poached??? like how? like we did with Kakuta?Fabregas left Barcelona, and he become a world class player at Arsenal.Yes. If you take a 16/ 17 year old prospect from other youth teams then it's poaching their best youngsters. just because it's legal doesn't mean it's not poaching.Fabregas would have done just fine if he stayed at Barca.Look at Arsenals mickey mouse cup teams that were supposed to be the next big thing. Lupoli,Quincey- owusi,Hoyte,Senderos,Vela etc.Now all gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 How many cups or titles has Arsenal won in the last 4-5 years?How many times have Arsenal been in the top three?There is a point between Youth and expierence. To replace one manager so that he can play youth is just suicide for the club's constistency. Carlo has had a blip, and thus had pressure on him to perform, why would you take the risk in playing youth players or inexpeirenced players and hope for the best?There are oppertunities in some players that i am sure Carlo should have done another way, but that what happens in football. Whose to say that if Hutchinson didn't have to retire that he wouldn't have been competeing for a first time start now-a-days? Cork and Mancienne are the only players (Betrand also) that i can think of that can make some kind of effect on our squad that is a youth product (Betrand i am not sure about). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Yes. If you take a 16/ 17 year old prospect from other youth teams then it's poaching their best youngsters. just because it's legal doesn't mean it's not poaching.Fabregas would have done just fine if he stayed at Barca.Look at Arsenals mickey mouse cup teams that were supposed to be the next big thing. Lupoli,Quincey- owusi,Hoyte,Senderos,Vela etc.Now all gone.So that's what Chelsea is doing a lot right now right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuz 143 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 So that's what Chelsea is doing a lot right now right???Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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