supporter 3,088 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 At this point I don't think we have a choice. Its clear to me Chelsea want to start integrating youth and recalling loanees. They can't all just be assets for generating revenue because if that continues we won't have an academy and young promising talents won't come to us.Hi friend!I agree with you. I hope that if we do not sign anyone else (or just one or two more signings like Stones or Witsel), at least we bet on the young players.In fact, I think Ruben Loftus-Cheek will be important for us from the first minute of the preseason. Jose said that he could be the great signing for 2015-2016. I hope so too.Zouma .... I think a loan would make no sense. Kurt has to stay with us and be in our starting eleven from the first minute too. And if we sign Stones, then Stones - Zouma must be our Centre-back, with John Terry for the big matches where more experience is needed.And because the market is crazy, Traore can be a good option for winger-back in a similar role which has Griezmann with Atletico de Madrid. With Willian for big matches if Traore was not yet ready.Step by step we can go creating a great team with our young players. In fact, I think Jose is aware of this and he knows that if he does not bet on the youth in a season without practically signings, we (the supporters) we could get to be a little disappointed a priori. This year the most exciting It is the youth.Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 At this point I don't think we have a choice. Its clear to me Chelsea want to start integrating youth and recalling loanees. They can't all just be assets for generating revenue because if that continues we won't have an academy and young promising talents won't come to us.Actually I think the whole academy system is going to experience changes and that more and more top level clubs will follow our way of doing things. Most such clubs already recognise loans, or work placements as they would be called in other areas of education, as an important part of the process. That can only grow. Development football has too little to offer young players beyond the U18s. (U19s for Champions' League clubs.)I used the word education deliberately because academies are just schools and, like all schools, they cannot promise students a job. They cannot even promise that individual students will reach a level to be considered for a job. All they can hope to do is help each student make the most of their talent, help them become the best footballer they can. Like top employers in any walk of life, elite clubs should be in the business of recruiting the best students out of the education process, not running the schools themselves. I believe that over the next 20 years, the way clubs operate will change to reflect this reality.The club trained requirements will have to go first of course but I believe that authorities will come to accept them for the phenomenal waste of money that they are at elite level and give them the heave ho. Home grown requirements are enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hi friend!I agree with you. I hope that if we do not sign anyone else (or just one or two more signings like Stones or Witsel), at least we bet on the young players.In fact, I think Ruben Loftus-Cheek will be important for us from the first minute of the preseason. Jose said that he could be the great signing for 2015-2016. I hope so too.Zouma .... I think a loan would make no sense. Kurt has to stay with us and be in our starting eleven from the first minute too. And if we sign Stones, then Stones - Zouma must be our Centre-back, with John Terry for the big matches where more experience is needed.And because the market is crazy, Traore can be a good option for winger-back in a similar role which has Griezmann with Atletico de Madrid. With Willian for big matches if Traore was not yet ready.Step by step we can go creating a great team with our young players. In fact, I think Jose is aware of this and he knows that if he does not bet on the youth in a season without practically signings, we (the supporters) we could get to be a little disappointed a priori. This year the most exciting It is the youth.Regards.just hope your optimism proves to be accurate. I am slightly doubtful tho . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hi friend!I agree with you. I hope that if we do not sign anyone else (or just one or two more signings like Stones or Witsel), at least we bet on the young players.In fact, I think Ruben Loftus-Cheek will be important for us from the first minute of the preseason. Jose said that he could be the great signing for 2015-2016. I hope so too.Zouma .... I think a loan would make no sense. Kurt has to stay with us and be in our starting eleven from the first minute too. And if we sign Stones, then Stones - Zouma must be our Centre-back, with John Terry for the big matches where more experience is needed.And because the market is crazy, Traore can be a good option for winger-back in a similar role which has Griezmann with Atletico de Madrid. With Willian for big matches if Traore was not yet ready.Step by step we can go creating a great team with our young players. In fact, I think Jose is aware of this and he knows that if he does not bet on the youth in a season without practically signings, we (the supporters) we could get to be a little disappointed a priori. This year the most exciting It is the youth.Regards.I agree with most of what you said.I do hope we sign those 2 lads plus at least a full back for Luis. (Personally I wouldn't stop there but I can't do owt about that I'm afraid.)Totally agree with you concerning Zouma/Stones (seeing as it doesnt seem my dream of a Zouma/Varane partnership is possible)I really dont know enough about Traore to give a comment on him. Its a risk using him instead of a more complete player and I would really like to have Griezmann. But the way I see this season its going to be a gamble. If it doesn't pan out I hope we dont panic buy come the winter sales. I hope they just re look at it next summer and spend some money.We will just have to see how the first couple of months go and hope the lads have a great season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 just hope your optimism proves to be accurate. I am slightly doubtful tho .Regardless, I find it absolutely delightful to read. Like a breath of fresh air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bethos1 802 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I just hope he can play enough games this year, would be a shame to see him rot on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Actually I think the whole academy system is going to experience changes and that more and more top level clubs will follow our way of doing things. Most such clubs already recognise loans, or work placements as they would be called in other areas of education, as an important part of the process. That can only grow. Development football has too little to offer young players beyond the U18s. (U19s for Champions' League clubs.)I used the word education deliberately because academies are just schools and, like all schools, they cannot promise students a job. They cannot even promise that individual students will reach a level to be considered for a job. All they can hope to do is help each student make the most of their talent, help them become the best footballer they can. Like top employers in any walk of life, elite clubs should be in the business of recruiting the best students out of the education process, not running the schools themselves. I believe that over the next 20 years, the way clubs operate will change to reflect this reality.The club trained requirements will have to go first of course but I believe that authorities will come to accept them for the phenomenal waste of money that they are at elite level and give them the heave ho. Home grown requirements are enough.Spot on IMO. Have 30 or so academies around the country run independently of clubs and teach the young footballers there. They can teach them far more than to be better at football too; they could teach them how to save their money as a footballers careers are short, teach them how to deal with the press, the pressure of playing for so many thousands of fans, the general do's and don't's of how to be a professional footballer (Sterling could have done with that).Then when they reach 21, they become free agents and clubs can offer them contracts based on what they've seen during trials. Hopefully the education they receive will make them chase first team football rather than money and whilst the top youngsters may go to City, Chelsea, Utd etc. some of the slightly less talented ones will go to lower level PL teams like Palace, West Brom or Spurs and get first team football there and try and work their way up.You could even incorporate some kind of draft system, whereby the teams take turns offering a contract to their favoured player of the group at the end of the season in which they have turned 21, then the next club offers one to their favoured player and so on. I really don't know what would be better or if it would work at all but it seems like a sound idea to me. And i'm pretty sure it would be of far more help to young players coming into football than the current system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You must be among a very small minority.I doubt it.Just because his sentence wasn't favourable to salad.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I doubt it.Just because his sentence wasn't favourable to salad....Has that supposed to be funny. Best to have spell check on next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Has that supposed to be funny. Best to have spell check on next time.It's an auto correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Spot on IMO. Have 30 or so academies around the country run independently of clubs and teach the young footballers there. They can teach them far more than to be better at football too; they could teach them how to save their money as a footballers careers are short, teach them how to deal with the press, the pressure of playing for so many thousands of fans, the general do's and don't's of how to be a professional footballer (Sterling could have done with that).Then when they reach 21, they become free agents and clubs can offer them contracts based on what they've seen during trials. Hopefully the education they receive will make them chase first team football rather than money and whilst the top youngsters may go to City, Chelsea, Utd etc. some of the slightly less talented ones will go to lower level PL teams like Palace, West Brom or Spurs and get first team football there and try and work their way up.You could even incorporate some kind of draft system, whereby the teams take turns offering a contract to their favoured player of the group at the end of the season in which they have turned 21, then the next club offers one to their favoured player and so on. I really don't know what would be better or if it would work at all but it seems like a sound idea to me. And i'm pretty sure it would be of far more help to young players coming into football than the current system.As I read your post I was rehearsing a reply to talk about one of the crazier ideas I've ever posted - a draft but I see you're on to that too. I think it would be a brilliant thing that would heighten interest and make money for all concerned. Don't have time now but when I do I'll say more about this in one of the dedicated youth threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Bertrand Traore - All Goals 2014-15 Bertrand Traore VS Malaysia XI (Man of the Match).... Bertrand Traore vs BNI Indonesia All-Stars Bertrand Traoré - Vitesse Arnheim - All Goals, Skills & Assists 2014/2015 Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 As I read your post I was rehearsing a reply to talk about one of the crazier ideas I've ever posted - a draft but I see you're on to that too. I think it would be a brilliant thing that would heighten interest and make money for all concerned. Don't have time now but when I do I'll say more about this in one of the dedicated youth threads.Tag me in your post when you make it please . I think it's an interesting idea that has been ridiculed when I've mentioned it before so it'd be interesting to have a debate about the pros and cons of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Bertrand Traore - All Goals 2014-15 Bertrand Traore VS Malaysia XI (Man of the Match).... Bertrand Traore vs BNI Indonesia All-Stars Bertrand Traoré - Vitesse Arnheim - All Goals, Skills & Assists 2014/2015 Regards.Traore is such a clean finisher. He is more than ready to contribute next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Traore is such a clean finisher. He is more than ready to contribute next season.Exactly. If he stays in our squad next season, he could be the finisher we've been looking for. He's already among our top five finishers (yes he's as good a finisher as hazard) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Exactly. If he stays in our squad next season, he could be the finisher we've been looking for. He's already among our top five finishers (yes he's as good a finisher as hazard)He's better at finishing (or maybe more clinical?) than Hazard, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 He's better at finishing (or maybe more clinical?) than Hazard, that's for sure.I was just thinking that too - Hazard could learn a thing or two about finishing from Traore. Whisper it quietly but so too can most of our forwards and midfielders bar Fabregas... and Mikel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hope he does well tonight if he plays, who says youngsters can't be given a chance on a top team? How did Messi come about? Xavi? Casillas? Gerrard? Come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 How did he do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 meh....He started off at right wing than switch to left. After he switch to left outside of those 2 counter plays, I didn't see him much. He took two long shots outside the box that were never going in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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