Don't you forget about Guus

[eldo 868]

This is comical really.

[Guest justin_3d]

No. Sometimes it ends. Carlo's legacy is zero. The new manager will start from point zero. Carlo did not anything new that the new manager might use.

One year ago I already had my doubts about Carlo abilities. Right after the double I was saying he wasnt this genious as some would like to believe. Thats why I dont accept the term "plastic fan". I think its more apropriated to describe people who consider a manager a legend after one single season. His trophies in his first season werent enough to made up my mind, and his poor form in this season showed that Hiddink legacy wasnt as small as people said.

A great coach is supposed to turn things in difficult moments. Carlo doesnt have such skill.

I understand, but what I am saying is when you take that argument, which makes sense, then we also have to take the argument of Raniere.

He set up the backbone of the team before Mourinho came to Chelsea.

So if you go by that, then we can easily say that most of the success of Mourinho was due to Raniere times, in setting up the backbone of the team.....

[Henrique 9,133]

Aint no use in making that face. A trophy is not necessarily a legacy. Gimme only one positive thing Carlo left to next season.

[Guest justin_3d]

Aint no use in making that face. A trophy is not necessarily a legacy. Gimme only one positive thing Carlo left to next season.

Ramires and David Luiz.

[Henrique 9,133]

Ramires and David Luiz.

...it seems that all these players were indicated by Hiddink.

Ramires maybe, but I don't think Luiz was an Ancelotti's signing.

[Guest justin_3d]

...it seems that all these players were indicated by Hiddink.

Ramires maybe, but I don't think Luiz was an Ancelotti's signing.

How do you know?

But yeah Ramires. And you only said one thing! :champions:

[termninja 5,290]

...it seems that all these players were indicated by Hiddink.

Ramires maybe, but I don't think Luiz was an Ancelotti's signing.

I think Carlo wanted to sign Maldini on a free transfer :eyebrows:

[Henrique 9,133]

I think Carlo wanted to sign Maldini on a free transfer :eyebrows:

lmao. indeed.

[Henrique 9,133]

How do you know?

But yeah Ramires. And you only said one thing! :champions:

Ramires is a good player, but the fact is that he didn't played his best under Carlo.

I have to admit, Carlo has his merits in this case,despite Ramire's poor start the italian never lost the faith on in, and in last games he was improving.

But we didn't saw the best of Ramires yet, and imo most part of it is due to Carlo using him in an alien position.

[ack17 205]

Ramires is a good player, but the fact is that he didn't played his best under Carlo.

I have to admit, Carlo has his merits in this case,despite Ramire's poor start the italian never lost the faith on in, and in last games he was improving.

But we didn't saw the best of Ramires yet, and imo most part of it is due to Carlo using him in an alien position.

What position should Ramires play?

[Henrique 9,133]

What position should Ramires play?

In Chelsea he player as a "right midfielder". He got stucked in that position. His better position is to play in a more free role, not as the first defensive midfielder, like Mikel, but as a player who also is supposed to mark, but is free to atack and play more in the central midfield.

[Madmax 9,219]

In Chelsea he player as a "right midfielder". He got stucked in that position. His better position is to play in a more free role, not as the first defensive midfielder, like Mikel, but as a player who also is supposed to mark, but is free to atack and play more in the central midfield.

He was played as a right midfielder only during the brief time we tried out 442. Other times it was like you said or as DM when Essien or Mikel weren't available.

[eldo 868]

In Chelsea he player as a "right midfielder". He got stucked in that position. His better position is to play in a more free role, not as the first defensive midfielder, like Mikel, but as a player who also is supposed to mark, but is free to atack and play more in the central midfield.

At Benfica he played as a "right midfielder" too.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

...it seems that all these players were indicated by Hiddink.

Ramires maybe, but I don't think Luiz was an Ancelotti's signing.

I honestly dont think any of em were Carlos signings! Think he just got what was given to him

[Madmax 9,219]

From Guus to golf ... TC discusses everything under the sun, but not stuff from it!