Nathaniel Chalobah

[hjperdeath 2,226]

i know. even our youth players beat barca with 10 men in their own backyard.

plus i think its time we kept a few young players at our own academy too, so that they can qualify as academy-trained. right now we have only JT who satifies that criteria.

true , surprising that hasn't been a serious question yet..

[CHOULO19 24,332]

i know. even our youth players beat barca with 10 men in their own backyard.

plus i think its time we kept a few young players at our own academy too, so that they can qualify as academy-trained. right now we have only JT who satifies that criteria.

true , surprising that hasn't been a serious question yet..

Funny you should say that: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13372-57-nathan-ake/?p=759242

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Funny you should say that: http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/13372-57-nathan-ake/?p=759242

Hmm never knew that. Were the rules changed in between ?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Hmm never knew that. Were the rules changed in between ?

I'm too lazy to search it

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I'm too lazy to search it

Haha, it's okay. Probably never was , I didn't know much about it anyways . Thanks though.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

I'm too lazy to search it

Haha, it's okay. Probably never was , I didn't know much about it anyways . Thanks though.

[didierforever 7,349]

Haha, it's okay. Probably never was , I didn't know much about it anyways . Thanks though.

i dont think so. the uefa rules have always been a little tougher than PL rules. 8 HG players out of which 4 should be club trained while 4 can be association trained (i was wrong about JT being our only club trained player, bertrand also comes under the same category). i think it was implemented in 08/09.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

i dont think so. the uefa rules have always been a little tougher than PL rules. 8 HG players out of which 4 should be club trained while 4 can be association trained (i was wrong about JT being our only club trained player, bertrand also comes under the same category). i think it was implemented in 08/09.

Yeah, that's what I remember as well. And a player should spend at least 3 seasons with the club between the age of 17 and 21 to be considered as "club trained" IIRC.

[didierforever 7,349]

Yeah, that's what I remember as well. And a player should spend at least 3 seasons with the club between the age of 17 and 21 to be considered as "club trained" IIRC.

ya, thats what i thought too but it does not seem to fit so for bertrand. he was always on loan from 17 to 21, but still makes the cut as club trained. or does it simply mean that the player should be in the clubs' books.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

ya, thats what i thought too but it does not seem to fit so for bertrand. he was always on loan from 17 to 21, but still makes the cut as club trained. or does it simply mean that the player should be in the clubs' books.

No I don't think so because I remember that one of our youngsters once couldn't be registered for the CL squad because he had spent too much time on loan. Was it PVA? I can't quite remember. Maybe local short term loans (the ones that are usually under 3 months) don't count? I'm sure there is a clear explanation in the CL rules. I'll look them up tomorrow.

[didierforever 7,349]

No I don't think so because I remember that one of our youngsters once couldn't be registered for the CL squad because he had spent too much time on loan. Was it PVA? I can't quite remember. Maybe local short term loans (the ones that are usually under 3 months) don't count? I'm sure there is a clear explanation in the CL rules. I'll look them up tomorrow.

i m confused too. here is bertrand's chelsea career.

bought at 16 (2005)

2006-07 - bournemouth

2007 - oldham athletic (6 months)

2008 - norwich city extended to summer of 2009.

2009-10 - reading

2010 - nottingham forest.

by this time he was 21. but i am sure he is counted as club trained rather than association trained player.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

i m confused too. here is bertrand's chelsea career.

bought at 16 (2005)

2006-07 - bournemouth

2007 - oldham athletic (6 months)

2008 - norwich city extended to summer of 2009.

2009-10 - reading

2010 - nottingham forest.

by this time he was 21. but i am sure he is counted as club trained rather than association trained player.

Yeah but only the Reading loan was a season-long one which why I said that maybe short loans don't count as he would still be at the club for some part of the season.

[Tomo 21,751]

He's not the first name on the team sheet and club captain at 18. He will never make it.

[jonaaibosk 191]

Yeah, that's what I remember as well. And a player should spend at least 3 seasons with the club between the age of 17 and 21 to be considered as "club trained" IIRC.

This is the very reason Nathan Ake did not go out on loan. This will be his 3rd year at the club and he wanted to fall into the club trained category

[ja1 1,166]

Had a tidy game for U21s I thought, I only watched second half but rarely lost possession, reliable presence in the middle of the park, and still made some runs and dribbles forward, still as comfortable there. Created two chances as well, wasn't just all spreading the play, some incisive as well.

If he is just going to the Championship for 3 months it may as well be Watford over Wigan, he knows everyone there, the manger rates him, he'll pretty much go into the starting XI and get some extra experience. I like Wigan too but I've heard their football is getting more direct with Coyle and Grant Holt But they still have Europa League which would he interesting.

Also Coyle is a bit overrated with his supposed handling of youngsters. Sturridge and Wilshere did well but TBH I think they would have done well at most clubs they went to. Kakuta and Weiss also went to Bolton under Coyle who maybe needed more attention but did not flourish. Not saying it was Coyle's fault, just that not every player sent to him comes back a star.