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The FIFA CWC 2025 is a 32 Team event starting in 2025.

The 2025/26 Season will be the first Season of this FIFA Club World Cup replacing the European Super League.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_FIFA_Club_World_Cup

Fifa to expand Club World Cup to 32 teams from 2025

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/gianni-infantino-fifa-club-world-cup-32-teams-b2246509.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 16, 2022 by KEVINAA

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On 16/12/2022 at 14:07, KEVINAA said:

The FIFA CWC 2025 is a 32 Team event starting in 2025.

The 2025/26 Season will be the first Season of this FIFA Club World Cup replacing the European Super League.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_FIFA_Club_World_Cup

Fifa to expand Club World Cup to 32 teams from 2025

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/gianni-infantino-fifa-club-world-cup-32-teams-b2246509.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

shit, we don't even get the badge for the space between the old and the new styles, as they are doing a last gasp old style 8 team tourney starting February 1, 2023

Real Madrid (who will likely win it again for their FIFTH title (5-0), although Flamengo is pretty loaded) will get to keep the fucking title for 2 and a half years.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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On 16/12/2022 at 14:07, KEVINAA said:

The 2025/26 Season will be the first Season of this FIFA Club World Cup replacing the European Super League.

what European Super League?

that was binned

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also, what about this?

EXCLUSIVE: Europe's elite clubs deal major blow to FIFA as they REJECT proposal to launch new 32-team Club World Cup in the USA in 2025, with governing body running out of time to find solution

• FIFA have been seeking approval to stage a 32-team competition in the US
• Europe's biggest clubs have rejected the proposal for the summer of 2025 
• FIFA refused to sign Memorandum of Understanding in retributive act 
• Clubs could theoretically refuse to release players to play for their countries 
• The goal for FIFA FIFA is to hold an expanded Club World Cup every four years

 

Europe's biggest clubs have rejected a proposal from FIFA to launch a new Club World Cup in the summer of 2025 in a major blow to the world governing body. 

Sportsmail has learned that FIFA have been seeking approval to stage a 32-team competition in the United States during negotiations that have taken place in Qatar over the last few weeks, but the clubs are refusing to endorse the proposals.

FIFA had been hoping to get the deal done at a meeting of the European Clubs Association, which represents the interests of the 220 leading European clubs, in Doha last Friday, but president Gianni Infantino pulled out at the last minute when it became clear his project would not be signed off. 

The MoU is an agreement between FIFA and the clubs covering the international match calendar, player release dates and compensation paid to the clubs. 

If a new deal is not signed in the interim clubs could theoretically refuse to release players to play for their countries during the next international break in March.

FIFA have been seeking to relaunch the Club World Cup for several years and a 24-team competition was planned to take place in China last year, only for it to be cancelled due to the pandemic. 

UEFA are opposed to a concept they see as a threat to the primacy of the Champions League, although the clubs could be persuaded if it is sufficiently lucrative amid rumours of FIFA offering £150milllion in prize money.

 

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Gianni Infantino announces 32-team men’s Club World Cup in 2025

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/16/gianni-infantino-announces-32-team-mens-club-world-cup-in-2025

 

• Fifa president risks wrath of Europe’s leading federations
• No agreements made with relevant domestic leagues

Gianni Infantino has risked a major row with Europe’s leading federations by announcing that Fifa will launch a 32-team men’s Club World Cup in 2025.

In what amounts to an ambush to the Premier League and its counterparts, the Fifa president confirmed the drastic expansion of a tournament whose current annual iteration sees seven teams compete. His revelation was made even though no agreements have been made with the relevant domestic leagues.

The revamped event will, as trailed by Infantino, take place every four years. It is understood that no formal proposals have been shown to the Premier League, whose stance was set in November 2021 and remains unchanged. Back then the league’s chief executive, Richard Masters, said it was “committed to preventing any radical changes to the post-2024 Fifa international match calendar that would adversely affect player welfare and threaten the competitiveness, calendar, structures and traditions of domestic football.”

There is no indication at this stage about the likely venue for a tournament that will require significant financial backing. An expanded Club World Cup has long been a hobby horse of Infantino’s. In 2018 he proposed a new 24-team event that was looked on dimly by Uefa; it was slated to take place in China last year but was put on hold due to the Covid-19 pandemic. Barrelling on with a plan for an even bigger event will raise eyebrows across Europe and sets some of the sport’s key stakeholders on a collision course. It is inconceivable Infantino’s plan would not involve a bulk of European teams. He also confirmed a new women’s Club World Cup is being planned.

Infantino’s announcement was his most eye-catching statement in a press conference, staged in the runup to Sunday’s World Cup final in Doha, which revealed that this winter’s tournament had brought in $7.5bn in revenues, $1bn more than budgeted, and boasted of its “unique cohesive power”. The president offered little in the way of answers to questions about off-pitch issues that have clouded Qatar 2022, saying Fifa is “defending human rights” and suggesting that figures around the deaths of migrant workers connected with the tournament have not been used accurately.

He also announced that a new “Fifa World Series” of friendly tournaments, designed to pit teams from different continents against each other more frequently, will take place in even years across the March international break.

The proposal was light on detail but is likely to generate further concerns about its added impact on existing scheduling and players’ travel time.

There were outbreaks of common sense in a speech that otherwise posed many more questions than solutions. Infantino said Fifa will reconsider the format of the group stage at the expanded 2026 World Cup, the drama of this year’s quarters reducing the likelihood that the next edition will comprise 16 groups of three. He also said that from 2025 the September and October international windows will be merged to create one extended break with four matchdays. A new women’s futsal World Cup was also among the raft of new events Infantino introduced.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

He also announced that a new “Fifa World Series” of friendly tournaments, designed to pit teams from different continents against each other more frequently, will take place in even years across the March international break.

wtf

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FIFA is out of control

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FIFA approves plans for expanded Club World Cup in 2025 with Chelsea, Real Madrid qualifying automatically

https://theathletic.com/4307281/2023/03/14/fifa-club-world-cup-2025-teams/

FIFA has approved plans for an expanded Club World Cup in 2025, with Chelsea and Real Madrid handed automatic qualification spots.

The current format of the tournament involves seven teams competing for the title, but FIFA president Gianni Infantino revealed plans in December for an expanded 32-team tournament from June 2025 and FIFA approved the proposal at its council meeting in Rwanda on Tuesday.

The new format of the tournament will consist of eight groups of four, with the top two teams of each group going through to a knockout round.

As the last two winners of the Champions League, Chelsea, and Real Madrid will be guaranteed a spot in the tournament and two more spots will be issued to the 2023 and 2024 Champions League winners.

As the Copa Libertadores is currently due to be held in November, South American clubs would not have finished their qualification tournaments in time to qualify for the new Club World Cup that year.

The new 32-team tournament is scheduled for 2025 and then 2029, but the current seven-team format will continue in its current December slot in 2024 — and in the years between the bumper version. That smaller tournament will run under a new name.

Speaking at a press conference ahead of the World Cup final in December, Infantino said the expanded tournament would be “like a World Cup”.

The international match calendar will be altered from 2025, with one extended break taking in four matches in late September and early October replacing two separate windows in September and October.

The governing body said that the other windows — in November, March and June — would remain unchanged.

Since taking over from Sepp Blatter in 2016, Infantino has sought to expand the Club World Cup and add to the pool of teams.

Speaking in 2016, he said: “Today football is not just about Europe and South America. The world has changed and that’s why we need to make the Club World Cup more interesting for teams, and also for fans around the world.”

Real Madrid are the current holders of the Club World Cup after defeating Saudi Arabia’s Al Hilal last month to win the trophy for a record fifth time.

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The FIFA Club World Cup: Infantino's proposed changes

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FIFA announce the first-ever 32-team Club World Cup in 2025 will be held in the United States

 

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So another competition which you now don’t need to actually win anything to enter? Hmmmm. How does that work…. And I thought after the Super League fiasco they were clamping down on these sort of buy a place competition because of who the club is 💰💰💰💰

Edited June 23, 2023 by OneMoSalah

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This was of great interest until 1970.
The South American teams were keeping their players and there were no transfers to Europe, or very few.
So it was a clash of giants.
But the South Americans were not very friendly. United played in the intercontinental final of 1968 and they got a few kicks down in Argentina.
Then with AC Milan, il notte del fuoco.
Then Ajax abstained and Panathinaikos took his place against National Montevideo. The Uruguayans did n't really want to hurt the Greeks - only one player in hospital.
Now it's not such a big deal because all the good South Americans play in Europe.

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3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

So another competition which you now don’t need to actually win anything to enter? Hmmmm. How does that work…. And I thought after the Super League fiasco they were clamping down on these sort of buy a place competition because of who the club is 💰💰💰💰

You have to win something. It will be once every 4 years and from my understanding last 4 CL winners and last 4 EL winners will represent Europe. 

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15 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

You have to win something. It will be once every 4 years and from my understanding last 4 CL winners and last 4 EL winners will represent Europe. 

Hmm. Still, why the last 4 of each? Seems stupid. But money talks

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So in the end last 4 CL winners and 8 best teams on ranking from Europe. 

Unless Arsenal wins CL this season which is extremely unlikely only Chelsea and City from England. 

 

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Real wants more money reading between the lines. 

 

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40318455/real-madrid-reject-club-world-cup-place-carlo-ancelotti

Real Madrid to reject Club World Cup place - Carlo Ancelotti

Edited June 10 by NikkiCFC

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Why Chelsea are early supporters of the new Club World Cup

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5572456/2024/06/19/Chelsea-club-world-cup/

This time next year, FIFA expects to launch the new expanded version of the Club World Cup in the United States, with 32 teams from around the globe competing for supremacy.

Chelsea, having completed a second consecutive season without Champions League football, will be back among the elite of the club game.

FIFA’s decision to introduce a new competition, which promises 63 matches over a month, to a stretch of the crowded football calendar normally reserved for major international tournaments or summer holidays for players has been controversial. FIFPro and the World Leagues Association have threatened legal action, accusing the governing body of not showing enough consideration for player welfare and the organisation of domestic leagues.

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Why are Napoli - and other teams - now so keen to qualify for the men's Club World Cup?

But none of those concerns are shared in the corridors of power at Stamford Bridge. Chelsea can be considered enthusiastic early supporters of the Club World Cup, and are factoring it into their decision-making on many levels — not least the move to mutually part with Mauricio Pochettino this summer and hire Enzo Maresca as head coach on a five-year contract.

Chelsea were looking at what lies ahead as effectively a double season, with two domestic campaigns bookending the Club World Cup. They wanted to ensure they had a long-term coach in place who fit within their structure and culture to minimise disruption ahead of the tournament. Maresca ticks those boxes to a degree they concluded that Pochettino simply did not.

The most urgent priority for Maresca is to lead Chelsea back into the Champions League by securing a top-four finish in the Premier League in 2024-25. But the new Club World Cup is viewed internally alongside the FA Cup, Carabao Cup and Europa Conference League as a serious trophy for him and his squad to target.

Considerable thought is also being put into how Chelsea’s squad might be best constructed to deal with as many as 75 or 80 competitive matches across all competitions over the next 12 months. There are also considerations on how pre-season preparations for the 2025-26 campaign might need to be modified in light of Club World Cup exertions.

But on the whole, Chelsea do not believe the summer of 2025 will prove any more challenging to navigate than this one, in which a significant number of their players have been called up to the European Championship, Copa America and Olympics. In fact, one arguable benefit of the Club World Cup is that clubs can more directly manage the workload and training schedules of their players than they can influence the approach of national teams.

For all the difficulties it poses, the expanded Club World Cup presents what all elite clubs are perennially searching for: a potentially lucrative opportunity for revenue growth. Chelsea’s qualification for the inaugural edition of the competition, secured by winning the Champions League in 2020-21, is already having a positive impact on their “enterprise value” according to respected data and analytics platform Football Benchmark.

FIFA is yet to confirm what money will be on offer for Club World Cup participants and the eventual winner as negotiations drag on with potential broadcast and sponsorship partners. Even so, the eventual figures are expected to be meaningful even for a club with Chelsea’s revenue, which broke the £500million ($635m) barrier for the first time in their 2022-23 accounts.

As detailed in The Athletic earlier this month, FIFA still has several significant hurdles to overcome to get the expanded Club World Cup off the ground. Chief among them are finalising broadcast deals that balance guaranteed income with TV visibility for a new competition, and sponsorship agreements on a level that ensures they can make participating financially worthwhile for some of Europe’s leading clubs.

But there is no doubt at Chelsea that FIFA will make president Gianni Infantino’s big idea a reality next summer, and that it will grow over time into a prized fixture in the football calendar every four years.

Real Madrid, despite the public comments of coach Carlo Ancelotti, will participate in 2025. So too will Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Paris Saint-Germain, Borussia Dortmund, Inter Milan, Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Porto, Benfica and Red Bull Salzburg.

The last two years have underlined that Chelsea are no longer guaranteed to compete in such rarefied European company. But they could also face the Copa Libertadores holders or the Champions League winners from North America, Asia or Africa. It is the truly global nature of the tournament that distinguishes it and could make it resonate particularly with the huge numbers of elite European club supporters who live overseas.

Chelsea view their participation in the Club World Cup as a valuable opportunity to engage with and further grow their sizeable worldwide fanbase. America is a helpful choice of host in that sense — offering a wide range of large, modern stadiums surrounded by hotels and facilities attractive to travelling supporters.

There is also the prospect of FIFA partnering with a global streaming platform, making tournament matches readily available to watch on smartphones and tablets anywhere in the world.

Most important of all, it is a grand international stage that Chelsea can safely incorporate into their plans. The same cannot be said for the Champions League, though it is hoped that their exile from Europe’s elite club competition is nearing its end.

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One year until the Club World Cup in the United States - what's going on?

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On 10/06/2024 at 18:36, NikkiCFC said:

Real wants more money reading between the lines. 

 

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40318455/real-madrid-reject-club-world-cup-place-carlo-ancelotti

Real Madrid to reject Club World Cup place - Carlo Ancelotti

 

Real Madrid, despite the public comments of coach Carlo Ancelotti, will participate in 2025.