Styles 9,790 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Some people are taking that post too seriously. Where's the fun people?! I did laugh at that when I noticed it right before the kick-off. Jase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Credit to Spurs, exploited us tactically last night + outworked us + we just did not seem up for it or when we did for a few minutes they scored to take the momentum away. We've setup all season like this with Branislav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 from him being a solid CB?! Like when he was responsible for Derby's goal? He's not a solid defender at CB or RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A bit of an unfair point, that's basically an excuse for Cahill's performances.Ivanovic plays wide on the right because he is our rightside outlet. Our outlet on the left is Hazard because he has all the cover from Azpilicueta, the league's best one-on-one defender. Ivanovic bombs forward because he has Willian on his side of the pitch, who does an unbelievable defensive job.I'm not saying Ivanovic is not at fault, I'm just saying that Cahill can't be excused based on that. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Sick and tired of him.He just keeps switching off.Luis and Azpi on FB positions please. MichaelDance, The Chels and The Mak 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDance 552 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 He's a good player, but he needs to get into position more and stop diving. He's giving us a bad name for that. But if he picks up we could do with keeping him, otherwise roll on the Summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I estimate at least 80% of the goals we concede come from down his flank. Or at least 80% of the goals we conceded today. Calamitous. Though he isn't helped by having a bloke next to him who makes David "brainfart" Luiz look like Bobby Moore. Bloody hell, you're not wrong either. This is a map of the goals we've conceded last season from open play. Also proves Cahill was not as good as we thought. On the other side, however, Azpilicueta and Terry were very solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I think he should play CB if Cahill is dropped. Zouma has barely ever been tested enough to know if he's ready. RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Bloody hell, you're not wrong either. This is a map of the goals we've conceded last season from open play. Also proves Cahill was not as good as we thought. On the other side, however, Azpilicueta and Terry were very solid.FFS look at all the crosses from Ivanovic's flank. The Mak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beepu 1,714 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Bloody hell, you're not wrong either. This is a map of the goals we've conceded last season from open play. Also proves Cahill was not as good as we thought. On the other side, however, Azpilicueta and Terry were very solid.That is not a pretty picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 I don't understand where the notion that Ivanovic is good defensively comes from. Aerially yes but just watch anyone run at him (he will back off) or behind him (he'll switch off).Or do his party trick of standing off 3 yards while look like a mong with his hands behind his back.Bloody hell, you're not wrong either. This is a map of the goals we've conceded last season from open play. Also proves Cahill was not as good as we thought. On the other side, however, Azpilicueta and Terry were very solid.Where are all those people from last year who passionately argued to me that Ivanovic is better than Azpi?! The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Why is this incompetent and lazy 'defender' still undroppable at the expense of a genuinely top class FB (Luis/Azpi)? He has absolutely no football intelligence or technique and is incredibly prone to making mistakes and losing concentration. But at least he gives the GK an outball eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm not exaggerating when I say, I could have passed better than him yesterday. Him and Willian just kept on giving them the ball back every f***ing time! I was about to throw my TV out of the window in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 Willian saved his arse numerous times yesterday.When Neil Warnock figures out that all you have to do is boot the ball into the corner with Branislav/Gary then we have a problem.I do love him as a Chelsea player and his tenacity but.. Damn.. he's testing that love this season. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 As much, if not more, of a liability than Cahill The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 What an expected turn of event, our most solid defenders in PL last season, 'bullied' by fans this season. Next is Azpi 'not good enough' and Terry 'is too old now' coming up, and then Luis better prepare next season. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted January 22, 2015 What an expected turn of event, our most solid defenders in PL last season, 'bullied' by fans this season. Next is Azpi 'not good enough' and Terry 'is too old now' coming up, and then Luis better prepare next season.Bullied ? Rightfully criticized you mean.Last season we played a deep (defensive) line, this season we're playing a high line and trying to press.To be blunt neither Cahill, Ivanovic or Terry are cut out to play a high line.Cahill is incapable of defending forward(proactive). The only thing he does is back off and try and block the shot.Ivanovic struggles when he's up against quick skillfull players which is why he doesn't like closing down players instead he'll just stand off them and allow them all the time in the world to cross the ball in.Terry simply doesn't have the pace or agility required to play a high line.Azpi and Luis are cut out to play the high line and should both be starting.Zouma should also get his shot to see if he's capable. Liquidator, LDN Blue, kellzfresh and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Bullied ? Rightfully criticized you mean.Last season we played a deep (defensive) line, this season we're playing a high line and trying to press.To be blunt neither Cahill, Ivanovic or Terry are cut out to play a high line.Cahill is incapable of defending forward(proactive). The only thing he does is back off and try and block the shot.Ivanovic struggles when he's up against quick skillfull players which is why he doesn't like closing down players instead he'll just stand off them and allow them all the time in the world to cross the ball in.Terry simply doesn't have the pace or agility required to play a high line.Azpi and Luis are cut out to play the high line and should both be starting.Zouma should also get his shot to see if he's capable.Then blame the tactic, don't blame the players, is what I'm trying to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Then blame the tactic, don't blame the players, is what I'm trying to say.Tactic isn't wrong. We're playing the tactic that gets the best out of most of our players problem is those three are dragging us down as they don't fit the system.We already have Azpi who can replace Ivanovic and Zouma could replace Cahill.That just leaves us with 1, Terry. He's not so much a problem as he offers other qualities that we need that aren't so easily replaced.Without buying we could already replace 2 out of the three "weak links" and we'd only have to cover for 1 player instead of three. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tactic isn't wrong. We're playing the tactic that gets the best out of most of our players problem is those three are dragging us down as they don't fit the system.We already have Azpi who can replace Ivanovic and Zouma could replace Cahill.That just leaves us with 1, Terry. He's not so much a problem as he offers other qualities that we need that aren't so easily replaced.Without buying we could already replace 2 out of the three "weak links" and we'd only have to cover for 1 player instead of three.Lol, then we should blame the players? It's not their fault, they couldn't perform their best in defensive high line like you said. They have tried, and yes maybe should have done better, but it is very harsh to blame all on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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