Mikel John Obi

[manpe 10,861]

2 minutes ago, Robguima said:

Yeah my original point wasn't even so much about green, but merely how lack of ambition is not health in the extremely competitive business of professional football and at the highest level at that.

Concerning my aggressiveness, perhaps I've been able to "keep some of that aggression in my late life" - ironic.

FYI I tend to edit my posts several times after posting, it's like an OCD I can't help it. You might want to reread some of them, I've corrected some wordings to better reflect what I was thinking.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

He should have come out and called the manager, the board and everyone at the club twats instead!  

[robsblubot 3,595]

10 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

He should have come out and called the manager, the board and everyone at the club twats instead!  

No, he couldn't and he wouldn't and that was exactly my point before: this is just PR

[manpe 10,861]

1 minute ago, Robguima said:

No, he couldn't and he wouldn't and that was exactly my point before: this is just PR

Speculation.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

4 minutes ago, Robguima said:

No, he couldn't and he wouldn't and that was exactly my point before: this is just PR

Yeah, obviously because the Mikel brand is HUGE around the world and needs to be maintained!

No, it was a nice-guy reply and it was just nice to read a grounded (in many ways old-school) reply rather than the usual diva attitudes that most players at this level tend to have nowadays. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

9 minutes ago, manpe said:

Speculation.

Perhaps but in my view I am the non-believer and others are the ones speculating - believing words at face value when a lot if at stake.

Does he employ an agent? Isn't part of his agent's job help with what he say or not to the press? Is this speculation or I am basing my opinion on something I know agents are involved in? Does he run everything he says by the club also? I don't know but he might. Wouldn't surprise me.

Have you ever refrained yourself from saying something about your employer or employer's customer, just because it wasn't proper even if true? Happens all the fucking time.

@CHOULO19 are you kidding me?! his agent won't ever stop chatting with the press.

[manpe 10,861]

8 minutes ago, Robguima said:

Perhaps but in my view I am the non-believer and others are the ones speculating - believing words at face value when a lot if at stake.

Does he employ an agent? Isn't part of his agent's job help with what he say or not to the press? Is this speculation or I am basing my opinion on something I know agents are involved in? Does he run everything he says by the club also? I don't know but he might. Wouldn't surprise me.

Have you ever refrained yourself from saying something about your employer or employer's customer, just because it wasn't proper even if true? Happens all the fucking time.

@CHOULO19 are you kidding me?! his agent won't ever stop chatting with the press.

Yes, they have PR help, but we cannot know if what they say in particular cases was calculated or just said impromptu to a journalist asking. In any case, if he is bullshitting, then Courtois should hire his agent, think we all can agree on that.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

@Robguima let it go, mate.

When you can't even bare someone saying "hey, it was nice that Mikel said that very respectful thing", you might have an irrational hate of him. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

4 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

@Robguima let it go, mate.

When you can't even bare someone saying "hey, it was nice that Mikel said that very respectful thing", you might have an irrational hate of him. 

quite on the contrary: as a person I've heard really great things of him during the olympics... a class act.

Still it has nothing to do with football, agents, or PR.

There is nothing irrational about my dislike of him as a player: I have very clear in my mind the things he doesn't do and I wish he did (quite a few).

[The Skipper 20,609]

7 hours ago, Robguima said:

fair enough

no the other top teams are not exclusively comprised of demanding superstars, neither do they have any player as passive and comfortable as mikel.

That's where we mostly disagree: I think mikel is very greedy. I think he only cares about money and that's the only reason he's stayed. Now if you believe player love clubs, I'm not going to stop you.

I do not base my judgment on what they say whatsoever. Most of it is very well thought out, often with the blessing of the club and most certainly input from their agent. What is he supposed to say? I wish I could play more, but no other club will give me 75K a week, so I rather sit on the bench or not even that, than play in a smaller club for far lower wages - have you seriously ever heard a player say anything like this?  

Real Madrid had Arbeloa for years. 

[11Drogba 2,000]

3 hours ago, The Skipper said:

Real Madrid had Arbeloa for years. 

Arbeloa may not seem like one but he is a very passionate player. Casillas: " Arbeloa is a leader in the dressing room and when he speaks, you listen”. I have also seen pre-game footage that supports what Casillas says.

Passive and comfortable players are more common in British teams in my opinion, because fans are more forgiving and less demanding than Spanish or Italian fans.

 

 

[wilander 35]

Someone says that Mikel Obi deserves starter in the club, but if Mikel Obi is good engouh, why Chelsea FC buy Matic then Kante?

Without doubts, his good performance in UCL 2012 final helped Chelsea to win first-ever title, however, Mikel is uni-functional for Bus-parking defence style. Now Chelsea FC is no longer Bus-parking team, his sluggish movement causes him totally fail to fit Conte's 343/352 formation. It is suggested that he should transfer out.

If Mikel Obi is good engouh, why Chelsea FC buy Matic then Kante.

Without doubts, his good performance in UCL 2012 final helped Chelsea to win first-ever title, however, Mikel is uni-functional for Bus-parking defence style. Now Chelsea FC is no longer Bus-parking team, his sluggish movement causes him totally fail to fit Conte's 343/352 formation. It is suggested that he should transfer out.

If Mikel Obi is good engouh, why Chelsea FC buy Matic then Kante.

Without doubts, his good performance in UCL 2012 final helped Chelsea to win first-ever title, however, Mikel is uni-functional for Bus-parking defence style. Now Chelsea FC is no longer Bus-parking team, his sluggish movement causes him totally fail to fit Conte's 343/352 formation. It is suggested that he should transfer out.

[manpe 10,861]

4 hours ago, wilander said:

Someone says that Mikel Obi deserves starter in the club

Who says? 

[The Skipper 20,609]

8 hours ago, wilander said:

Someone says that Mikel Obi deserves starter in the club, but if Mikel Obi is good engouh, why Chelsea FC buy Matic then Kante?

Nobody says this lol. 

[Amblève. 4,995]

Still the greatest player this club has ever seen.