Champions League Group Stage Draw 2008/2009

[DavidEU 2,023]

The Champions League group stage draw takes place tomorrow (Thursday 28th August 2008, 5PM)

Please discuss the draw here, and here only.

The road to Rome starts here. Come on you Chels'.

[DavidEU 2,023]

Information: Despite being first seeds on the points basis, Chelsea go into the draw ranked second in pot one behind holders Manchester United.

Bayern Munich return to the competition after missing last years.

Juventus also return after a few years out of Europes top competition.

AC Milan miss out after finishing 5th in Serie A.

Zenit St Petersburg and CFR Cluj from Romania are the less familar names already qualified.

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19 teams have already qualified for the group stages. They are: Manchester United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Lyon, Inter, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSV, Villarreal, Roma, Porto, Werder Bremen, Sporting, Juventus, Zenit, Panathinikos, Bordeaux, Celtic, Cluj.

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The remaining 13 teams shall be decided tonight from the following ties (Teams leading from first leg shown in bold): Fiorentina vs Slavia, Spartak Moscow v Dinamo Kiev, Levski v BATE, Shakhtar vs Zagreb, Anorthosis vs Olympiakos, AaB vs Kaunas, Galatasaray vs Steaua, Brann vs Marseille, Schalke vs Atletico, Twente vs Arsenal, Partizan vs Fenerbahce, Standard vs Liverpool, Guimaraes vs Basel

[warnie_666 1,081]

Either have barcelona or Inter Milan for sure in our group.

[DavidEU 2,023]

Can't have them mate. They are in the top seeds with us.

Pot A

1 Manchester United Eng 107,996 C 1 (TH)

2 Chelsea Eng 124,996 C 1

3 Liverpool Eng 118,996 C Q3

4 Barcelona Spa 117,837 C Q3

5 Arsenal Eng 110,996 C Q3

6 Olympique Lyon Fra 99,380 C 1

7 Internazionale Ita 96,934 C 1

8 Real Madrid Spa 93,837 C 1

Cant face any of them.

[Aesthetic Relic 301]

I dont care who we get.

We shouldnt fear anyone :thumbsup:

[Gianfranco_Z 202]

Information: Despite being first seeds on the points basis, Chelsea go into the draw as second seeds behind holders Manchester United.

Looks like we can get Inter or Barca...

[terry26 6]

chances of getting drawn against holders ???????????

[Gianfranco_Z 202]

Which is impossible, Both from the same nation. The only reason we got liverpool that time was because they finished 5th or something and werent properly registered as a national team or something?

[DavidEU 2,023]

Its 4 pots. 1 team from each pot.

We are in the same pot as Inter and Barca, and therefore cant draw them.

[warnie_666 1,081]

Can't have them mate. They are in the top seeds with us.

Pot A

1 Manchester United Eng 107,996 C 1 (TH)

2 Chelsea Eng 124,996 C 1

3 Liverpool Eng 118,996 C Q3

4 Barcelona Spa 117,837 C Q3

5 Arsenal Eng 110,996 C Q3

6 Olympique Lyon Fra 99,380 C 1

7 Internazionale Ita 96,934 C 1

8 Real Madrid Spa 93,837 C 1

Cant face any of them.

You are wrong.

Where did you get that info from?

POT A will be the first 2 teams from EPL SPL Bundesliga and Italian league. Thats 8 teams for 8 groups there for you who get automatic qualification.

POT B wil be the 3rd and 4th teams in those respective leagues but inorder to get there they need to win their qualifiers first. Hence. Arsenal and Pool inclusion is uncertain atm.

POT C and D will be other teams who would make numbers. Dunno on what basis they select them.

[DavidEU 2,023]

No, you are wrong.

Champions League pot placing is based on seeding points, which are listed next to the teams.

These 'points' are based on the clubs record in the UCL over the last 5 years.

[warnie_666 1,081]

No, you are wrong.

Champions League pot placing is based on seeding points, which are listed next to the teams.

These 'points' are based on the clubs record in the UCL over the last 5 years.

Then how do you explain Barcelona and Liverpool in the same group 2 seasons back?

And what happends when Liverpool and Arsenal fail to qualify. That leaves 2 empty spots there.

Edited August 27, 2008 by warnie_666

[DavidEU 2,023]

Then how do you explain Barcelona and Liverpool in the same group 2 seasons back?

And what happends when Liverpool and Arsenal fail to qualify. That leaves 2 empty spots there.

They wernt. It was in first knock out round.

If Liverpool and Arsenal dont qualify then the 2 top teams from Pot B (Bayern and PSV) go into Pot A , and Twente and Liege would go into Pot C or D.

Here is the full list of pots at the moment.

Pot A

1 Manchester United Eng 107,996 C 1 (TH)

2 Chelsea Eng 124,996 C 1

3 Liverpool Eng 118,996 C Q3

4 Barcelona Spa 117,837 C Q3

5 Arsenal Eng 110,996 C Q3

6 Olympique Lyon Fra 99,380 C 1

7 Internazionale Ita 96,934 C 1

8 Real Madrid Spa 93,837 C 1

Pot B

9 Bayern München Ger 92,078 C 1

10 PSV Net 91,610 C 1

11 Villarreal Spa 90,837 C 1

12 AS Roma Ita 81,934 C 1

13 Porto Por 81,176 C 1

14 Werder Bremen Ger 74,078 C 1

15 Sporting Portugal Por 67,176 C 1

16 Schalke 04 Ger 67,078 C Q3

Pot C

17 Juventus Ita 66,934 C Q3

18 Olympique Marseille Fra 63,380 C Q3

19 Zenit St.Petersburg Rus 60,437 C 1

20 Steaua Bucuresti Rom 59,398 C Q3

21 Panathinaikos Gre 52,525 C Q2

22 Girondins Bordeaux Fra 52,380 C 1

23 Celtic Sco 52,013 C 1

24 Basel Swi 51,993 C Q2

Pot D

25 Olympiakos Piraeus Gre 51,525 C Q3

26 Fenerbahçe Tur 51,469 C Q2

27 Shakhtar Donetsk Ukr 49,932 C Q3

28 Fiorentina Ita 40,934 C Q3

29 Spartak Moscow Rus 40,437 C Q3

30 Levski Sofia Bul 32,644 C Q3

31 Cluj Rom 13,398 C 1

32 Aalborg Den 12,748 C Q2

[kbchel 2]

lol imagine if we are drawn with bayern and juventus....it would suck

[Gianfranco_Z 202]

That'd be quality

[DavidEU 2,023]

Bayern Juventus Fenerbahce

Group of death?

[changingman2000 35]

Celtic would be handy

[.Cee 50]

Bayern Juventus Fenerbahce

Group of death?

I hope not and we get an easy group so we don't have to always play our key players...