MUTU 37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hasan Salihamidžić on Hudson-Odoi: "We want to sign the player. I'm fully convinced of his abilities. We are in talks with Chelsea" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, MUTU said: Hasan Salihamidžić on Hudson-Odoi: "We want to sign the player. I'm fully convinced of his abilities. We are in talks with Chelsea" Here comes Bayern Munich telling Callum they are fully convinced of his abilities. Meanwhile his boyhood club had been saying he wasn't ready and was forced to watch a washed up emoji warrior miscontrol the ball until the club was forced to insincerely change their rhetoric. I'm not at all surprised if CHO's head's turned. Dazzy_Vance, Unionjack, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, manpe said: Here comes Bayern Munich telling Callum they are fully convinced of his abilities. Meanwhile his boyhood club had been saying he wasn't ready and was forced to watch a washed up emoji warrior miscontrol the ball until the club was forced to insincerely change their rhetoric. I'm not at all surprised if CHO's head's turned. But wtf does he expect? CHO's first season of senior football and he has already 945 minutes with half the season remaining. Compare that to Sancho who only had 695 minutes his first season in Dortmund. CHO is playing and will be playing more. If he doesn't wanna stay and keep fighting then we should just shove him down to the youth team again and let him be there for the next 18 months of his contract. Johnnyeye and Antonio8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, Costa19 said: But wtf does he expect? CHO's first season of senior football and he has already 945 minutes with half the season remaining. Compare that to Sancho who only had 695 minutes his first season in Dortmund. CHO is playing and will be playing more. If he doesn't wanna stay and keep fighting then we should just shove him down to the youth team again and let him be there for the next 18 months of his contract. Yeah, agree with the first part, but that doesn't change that BM's lure might be big enough to turn his head. Don't agree with the last part, that wouldn't benefit anybody and would be pettily spiteful... If he wants to leave, then it would benefit us more to get as much money as possible for him. Unionjack and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, manpe said: Here comes Bayern Munich telling Callum they are fully convinced of his abilities. Meanwhile his boyhood club had been saying he wasn't ready and was forced to watch a washed up emoji warrior miscontrol the ball until the club was forced to insincerely change their rhetoric. I'm not at all surprised if CHO's head's turned. Exactly what I said using better words lol Hes got these agents,advisors,family etc all telling him hes the 2nd coming and deserves to play at the highest level every week. Instead of having someone here like JT telling him some home truths and chilling him out. Of course hes going. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Dazzy_Vance 454 Posted January 16, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 16, 2019 Hold him to his contract. £35m is nothing. Make Bayern wait. robsblubot, Costa19, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dazzy_Vance said: Hold him to his contract. £35m is nothing. Make Bayern wait. Does anyone have a list of players aged 18 or younger who transferred for more than £35m? I can only think of Vinicius Junior off the top of my head. £35m is not nothing; it's a massive amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzy_Vance 454 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 51 minutes ago, MUTU said: Does anyone have a list of players aged 18 or younger who transferred for more than £35m? I can only think of Vinicius Junior off the top of my head. £35m is not nothing; it's a massive amount of money. Considering our owner is a billionaire, it is chump change. Money that we will just piss away anyway. Maybe in twelve months time, there will be several clubs lining up for his services and we could get a nice bidding war happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, MUTU said: Does anyone have a list of players aged 18 or younger who transferred for more than £35m? I can only think of Vinicius Junior off the top of my head. £35m is not nothing; it's a massive amount of money. Doesn't matter how many aged 18 players have transferred for that amount. We won't be looking to buy an 18 year old with the money from him. That amount of money won't buy you a starting quality replacement and that's what we'd be looking for and that's what you are telling him he is going to be for you. Put your money where your mouth is, you being Bayern, and make us an offer we can't refuse. Either that or get used to seeing him from afar for at least a couple more months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Callum Hudson-Odoi denies Bayern Munich talks in major Chelsea transfer revelation CALLUM HUDSON-ODI has seemingly denied suggestions he is about to leave Chelsea for Bayern Munich. https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1073089/Chelsea-Transfer-News-Callum-Hudson-Odoi-Bayern-Munich-Talks-Denied-Premier-League-News Johnnyeye and mccg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Dazzy_Vance said: Considering our owner is a billionaire, it is chump change. Money that we will just piss away anyway. Maybe in twelve months time, there will be several clubs lining up for his services and we could get a nice bidding war happening Serious question: why should it matter if your owner is broke, a millionaire or the richest man of all time? Aren't there still FFP rules you're required to abide with? AFAIK it's not like the owner can say "oh, £35m is nothing, here's £500m for the transfer kitty from my own personal funds". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Report: Chelsea reject fourth Bayern Munich bid for Callum Hudson-odoi https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2019/1/16/18185086/bayern-munich-chelsea-reject-fourth-bid-callum-hudson-odoi-premier-league-fifa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 54 minutes ago, kc_blue said: Doesn't matter how many aged 18 players have transferred for that amount. We won't be looking to buy an 18 year old with the money from him. That amount of money won't buy you a starting quality replacement and that's what we'd be looking for and that's what you are telling him he is going to be for you. Put your money where your mouth is, you being Bayern, and make us an offer we can't refuse. Either that or get used to seeing him from afar for at least a couple more months. Because it was said that £35m is nothing. £35m is a lot of money. I'm sure you can buy the majority of Bayern senior squad players in return, for that kind of money. That amount of money won't buy you starting quality replacement? Let's see... Kingsley Coman cost us £25.2m (I'm including money we paid to loan him in) Serge Gnabry cost us £6.3m (I'm excluding money we were paid for to loan him out) Alphonso Davies cost us £9m Total: £40.5m Basically, given that Ribery and Robben are moving at the end of the season, Bayern are bidding almost as much money for CHO as they spent on the rest of their wingers altogether. What I think you really need are good scouts to get players at decent prices. Well, or get a Drinkwater for that price. Your choice. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It does matter actually. In fairness in terms of FFP and homegrown quotas etc , would it not benefit us to get a player into our starting 11 that cost nothing rather than selling him for 35m and replacing him with someone that cost 56m (Pulisic for example) because as someone pointed out, you don’t get starting material for 35m nowadays it would cost us more to replace him for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, dreamcfc said: you don’t get starting material for 35m nowadays it would cost us more to replace him for sure. Check the post above yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, MUTU said: Check the post above yours. Ok I will give you that it happens, but it is very rare and just like gambling. is hard to talk about something like this with so many variables... in England, we are not going to replace Callum for 35m though unless we were to take a gamble but we don’t need to gamble if we keep Callum. If you put all those wingers in the EPL right now they would all be on the bench in any big team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dreamcfc said: Ok I will give you that it happens, but it is very rare and just like gambling. is hard to talk about something like this with so many variables... in England, we are not going to replace Callum for 35m though unless we were to take a gamble but we don’t need to gamble if we keep Callum. If you put all those wingers in the EPL right now they would all be on the bench in any big team. For 35m nowadays, you can bring back Thorgan Hazard. I remember watching Thorgan Hazard play 90 minutes against England in Kaliningrad. Maybe my memory evades me but I don't remember seeing Hudson-Odoi also playing in that match At this point in time, you can consider Thorgan Hazard an upgrade over Hudson-Odoi. Furthermore, maybe that'll help Eden want to remain at your club so you hit 2 birds with one stone too. It really isn't rare. What's rare is clubs spending 35m on any winger, let alone an 18 year old one. It's not like your fellow Premier League clubs aren't doing it. Shaqiri cost Liverpool £13.23m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, MUTU said: What I think you really need are good scouts to get players at decent prices. Well, or get a Drinkwater for that price. Your choice. I don't disagree with this statement at all. Unfortunately we have the scouts and the board that we have. We also play in England and everyone knows the English teams have lots of money and prices go up accordingly. 7 minutes ago, MUTU said: That amount of money won't buy you starting quality replacement? Let's see... Kingsley Coman cost us £25.2m (I'm including money we paid to loan him in) Serge Gnabry cost us £6.3m (I'm excluding money we were paid for to loan him out) Alphonso Davies cost us £9m Total: £40.5m I'd love to see us be able to get deals done at those kind of prices but at the moment it's just not happening. Since we aren't able to do that kind of business 35m isn't going to be much for us. It won't get us the quality we need or want and more importantly it won't help us with our homegrown issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, MUTU said: For 35m nowadays, you can bring back Thorgan Hazard. I remember watching Thorgan Hazard play 90 minutes against England in Kaliningrad. Maybe my memory evades me but I don't remember seeing Hudson-Odoi also playing in that match At this point in time, you can consider Thorgan Hazard an upgrade over Hudson-Odoi. Furthermore, maybe that'll help Eden want to remain at your club so you hit 2 birds with one stone too. Go and bid for Thorgan Hazard then lol kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, MUTU said: For 35m nowadays, you can bring back Thorgan Hazard I thought he was at least 40m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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