whats happening 1,621 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 buyback clause means shit if he doesnt want to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,213 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 6 hours ago, MUTU said: Well, meh. Let's see: Caballero, Green, Cahill, Ampadu, Kanté, Drinkwater, Barkley, & Giroud (9 players in total) versus: Neuer, Ulreich, Süle, Hummels*, Kimmich, Goretzka, Gnabry, Lewandowski & Wagner* (9 players in total) *is a Bayern youth product who was sold and bought back. Why do you keep adding in Caballero and Green? Green is 39 years old in 4 days, and came on a free. Caballero will be 38 near the start of next season and came on a free. It is ludicrous to say those 2 are examples of us gangstering up the league. Ampadu was a 16yo who we bought from a FOURTH TIER team's youth squad! Kante was gone, whether it was us or another team, many of them NON ENGLISH, like say Bayern!. Drinkwater?????? That was the biggest GIFT ever to Leicester! Insanely BAD deal for us!! We will fucking end up paying over £70m for him when fees and wages are counted. Leicester helped rebuild their team with our almost £40m fee! Drinkwater is SHIT. Even with Kante here we cannot play him, he is that bad. Bear in mind we are DESPERATE for defensive MF types atm too. Barkley? LOLOL He was leaving on a free in 6 months when we paid £15m for him! He was worth maybe (if locked down into contract) £22m to £25m., so we paid around 2/3rd of his actual value for a player we could have had ON FREE in 6 months. He had a horrible injury and a horrible injury history overall. That is hardly gangster.on our part to roll the dice and pay (due to 6 months remaining) fair value. Giroud? Totally washed up (as evidenced by what he has done here) and we paid the same as Barkley, £15m for a soon to be 32yo striker who was totally benched for good, We gifted Arsenal that. They were laughing their arse off (pardon the pun) Moses. We paid over double his market value to a soon to be relegated side. He has done shit here, other than the Conte wingback role. He was a loan army member for years, and now is benched permanently. We will be luck to recoup what we spent on him. Your examples are bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,213 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, MUTU said: What about Matty Lawless? The Mirror is semi dodgy, some might say full stop tosh. Caveat emptor. Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,621 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, whats happening said: I never did Well I almost did but it just doesnt make sense it came from nowhere. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 he's deleted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 It's been said now though. I guess this puts to bed the rumours hes forcing his way out for now. Now it doesn't mean he is definitely staying still, but it proves there is a lot of rubbish being posted, all it takes is 1 paper to say something and the others jump on it, that's all that has happened here in my opinion and because no-one has squashed the rumors and Bayern admit to interest it just blown up from nowhere. Just doesn't make sense that he would be forcing a move so bad for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamcfc 182 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 5 hours ago, MUTU said: How realistic do you guys see the possibility of Chelsea refusing every January bid from Bayern and CHO getting regular playing time till the end of this season? Very realistic, because as I have said previously, just because your club say they are interested in someone and a few newspapers said he wants to go doesn't make it a given. You said earlier he has to go because the players will turn on him in the dressing room etc, it's laughable, i'm sorry, based on what can you say this will happen? What is so good that Bayern can offer him but Chelsea can't? He's 18 and appears to be getting his chances here, we are a big club, just like Bayern, we can compete for trophies, he's loved here and been here since he was 8. He scored his debut goal 2 months ago and was telling everyone how its a dream come true, you think that because you've bid for him and said in a press conference he's an interesting player that hes gonna throw everything away lmao. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 He wants to go clearly. Bayern are a huge club. But Bayern are in a bit of a mess at present. Average manager, aging players in key positions... like I said huge club but only problem is Chelsea aren't a Bundesliga team who will bend over to accomodate making a deal with them regarding transfers. If we did, why else would they feel the need to publically talk about CHO? Its like Barca and Real have done in the past, have a player or manager or board member talk about a player to try and entice a player to force a move or whatever.... underhand tactics or not it happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: He wants to go clearly. Where are you getting this from? Are there quotes to that affect or is this just from the number of articles out there? From my perspective, perhaps biased of course, it just looks like he's using this to his advantage to get the best and most he can out of the club. It could well turn out that he really wants to go but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to that conclusion yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Er bleibt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Ironically, the fact that this cannot currently be found makes me not believe it... Or can anyone confirm that they actually saw it?Talking about Instagram, he's been following Bayern players and liking their posts. I guess that has some value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 hours ago, kc_blue said: Where are you getting this from? Are there quotes to that affect or is this just from the number of articles out there? From my perspective, perhaps biased of course, it just looks like he's using this to his advantage to get the best and most he can out of the club. It could well turn out that he really wants to go but I haven't seen anything that would lead me to that conclusion yet. I think its clear or he would have renewed by now. He will be on a good deal anyway like most youngsters at Chelsea. Its not a matter of money clearly its about playing time. If you cant see that then I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzy_Vance 454 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: I think its clear or he would have renewed by now. He will be on a good deal anyway like most youngsters at Chelsea. Its not a matter of money clearly its about playing time. If you cant see that then I don't know. Why don’t we play him more often then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dazzy_Vance said: Why don’t we play him more often then? I guess you need to ask Maurizio Sarri and (commenting way out of my depth here so please excuse me) Joe Edwards given he didn't play that much for the U23s either (though again, not sure what the reasons are). Dazzy_Vance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dazzy_Vance said: Why don’t we play him more often then? Obviously Sarri prefers using Hazard, Willian, Pedro, RLC on the right/left ahead of him. I don't know what else it could be. If I was in his shoes Id consider the same tbf although looking at it, he wont play week in week out at Bayern in my eyes either. Dazzy_Vance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, MUTU said: I guess you need to ask Maurizio Sarri and (commenting way out of my depth here so please excuse me) Joe Edwards given he didn't play that much for the U23s either (though again, not sure what the reasons are). He is considered a permanent member of the first team squad I would say so honestly I'd be surprised if he plays u23s very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: He is considered a permanent member of the first team squad I would say so honestly I'd be surprised if he plays u23s very often. Before Bayern were rumoured to be interested, CHO had mostly played for the U23s this season, and not often either, and this is including dead rubber Europa League matches. What's the point of having your most promising teenager hardly playing at all? If he's not showing up for the senior squad, which I can understand, playing for the U23s would hardly be stifling his development, would it? Surely better than him staying at home playing on the PlayStation or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, MUTU said: Before Bayern were rumoured to be interested, CHO had almost exclusively only played for the U23s this season, and not often either. What's the point of having your most promising teenager hardly playing at all? If he's not showing up for the senior squad, which I can understand, playing for the U23s would hardly be stifling his development, would it? Surely better than him staying at home playing on the PlayStation or something... Perhaps but again u23s level probably isnt as beneficial to him as some of the lads being used. We have seen CHO can hold his own in the cup games at a higher level. Gap between first team and U23 is incredibly huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTU 37 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, OneMoSalah said: Perhaps but again u23s level probably isnt as beneficial to him as some of the lads being used. We have seen CHO can hold his own in the cup games at a higher level. Gap between first team and U23 is incredibly huge. The gap is always big, it's the same around everywhere. However I strongly believe that 18 year olds need to play. The higher the level, the better it is for their development, but playing at a low level is still preferable to nothing. He's not going to improve just by showing up at training, and it's unfair on him being given playing minutes for the senior team whilst he's lacking match sharpness. He should be playing regularly. If he's needed for the first team, he plays for the first team. If he's not needed there, he plays for the U23s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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