Jase 43,479 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mana said: "Agree to disagree" when you know evidence stacks hugely against Morata. It's like you saying the Earth is flat, evidence shows it's round and you say "agree to disagree". Cop out. Your stats say Morata isn't good but since when they became a sure thing to judge how that person will turn out? It's like saying someone will guarantee fail in life because he or she constantly fails exams in school. Not even sure why you are continuing this when we are not going to be on the same page. I know you think Morata isn't good and needs to be replaced but are you really that desperate to get others on board with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Thor said: give the players time to build with each other and learn to play off one another That is a very good point and the reason I think why our youth teams are so good. Theyve grown up together since they were very young. But its a very hard thing to do if you want to win trophies and have a owner who demands it. IF we was a mid table club with no expectations we could bring in youth,experiment with players,formations etc. Give players a chance to gell together. But you see our 'supporters' here for instance. Half moan like fuck for using the same players and the other half moan like fuck if we use any form of rotation!! A manager just cant win. Sideshow Luiz, Thor and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! manpe 10,861 Posted May 10, 2018 Popular Post! Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Mana said: What about Pato, Torres, Shevo, Crespo? Harsh on Crespo. Falcao or Pizarro would have been more appropriate names to throw in there. DYC., DDA, Johnnyeye and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Mana said: No, I'm not desperate. It's just I'm tired of seeing you defend Morata like this as if he is a fantastic player in the past. Overall, he wasn't. I didn't. Only said willing to give him a chance because of the good things he did in the first half of the season. And I'm also tired (it has been 3 very long days...) of you dragging this out. You've made your point. I've made mine. Can't we just be friends and talk about something else already? 😭 Unionjack and Thor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Jason said: talk about something else already? As if we dont have enough things that need sorting eh. Whats another one going to make any difference lol None of these things we are all talking about will make a blind bit of difference until the managers job is sorted. We dont know what sort of formation he mainly uses, player types he likes - nothing. All we can hope is him and our luvly board manage somehow to work together to out a team together and make a effort next season. Alot of luck and money is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Maybe our next manager plays 2 forwards? Morata in a supporting striker role could be something else than Morata the lone striker. He doesn't seem to be the type to lead an attack. A lone striker needs to be a ruthless badass not swayed by tiniest contacts, and more importantly a ruthless finisher. He is neither. In lone striker role I prefer Giroud anyway, this much 2018 has proved. 11Drogba and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, manpe said: Maybe our next manager plays 2 forwards? Morata in a supporting striker role could be something else than Morata the lone striker. He doesn't seem to be the type to lead an attack. A lone striker needs to be a ruthless badass not swayed by tiniest contacts, and more importantly a ruthless finisher. He is neither. In lone striker role I prefer Giroud anyway, this much 2018 has proved. I was thinking the same thing. I don't think he has the personality to lead the offensive line in Premiere league but as a second striker, in a more free role he could be more effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Mana said: Why are you backing Morata so much? Are you friends with him or something? Evidence shows he is not good enough. He's one of the main reasons why we are 5th. Morata is too soft then to be our main man if confidence is what takes to make him score. That can be said for ANY player. Moses is shite, but when confidence runs high he plays fantastic. We cannot rely on "confidence" around the team all the time. When the confidence is low with the team, it's up to YOU to gain confidence within yourself and be that person that makes the team's confidence go high. Kante for example, while the team is shite low on confidence he still manages to do HIS bit and be a beast in midfield. I understand its not always a great situation and you cant rely on Confidence, but constant undermining from the fans, media, and even the coach does not help. I still remember Hazard/Costa when we finished 10th, They were dreadful. The season after we were champions. I agree Morata needs to be more of a catalyst with regards to developing confidence throughout the team. This is what we signed up for when we off loaded Costa for Morata, there was always this risk and it was probably the biggest question when we signed him. This year was an obvious fail but he wasnt the only failure. They have to band together and bounce back once again. Every player adapts differently to the Prem, all I am (and most people) are saying is its simply too early to entirely give up on the player. It has been an incredibly frustrating year for the entire club, a summer to refocus and a pre season are needed to come back stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Amblève. said: Saying that Morata scores every 3rd game is so terribly misleading. In saying so you are implying consistency which Morata has not shown at Chelsea (nor anywhere else for that matter). To put Morata's PL goal scoring into context: - Morata has scored more goals in his first 6 PL games (6; 3 of which came in a hat-trick vs Stoke) than in his last 24 (5). - Out of his last 24 PL games Morata has played 60+ minutes in 18 games so he has had enough time to make a goal contribution in those games. - Against top-6 opponents Morata has scored 2 goals in 8 games (10 games actually but I took out the 2 games vs City since he only played a combined 36 minutes in both games) - In 2018 Morata has scored 1 PL goal. ...and these are only the numbers. Getting into his bitch-ass attitude on the pitch, his stupid yellow cards, and his missed sitters would just make me even more depressed. These facts are worse than I imagined. Jesus. Amblève. and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 It's as simple as follows; Every team bar City and Spurs vs Chelsea play with 'the tight spaces'. Morata is shit in 'the tight spaces'. Move on 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, DDA said: It's as simple as follows; Every team bar City and Spurs vs Chelsea play with 'the tight spaces'. Morata is shit in 'the tight spaces'. Move on 😒 Gotta ask bruv. Whats with the goat? Is it like - Stuborn as a old goat? lol Just wondered. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miki-Liki 405 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Morata is never going to be another Drogba, he is mentally weak, and is all around mediocre at best. Drogba was at least fighter, and physically dominant. Morata is good at nothing. Blusan Alamb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: Gotta ask bruv. Whats with the goat? Is it like - Stuborn as a old goat? lol Just wondered. 🤣 Well now you say it, I am as stubborn as an old goat. Actually I was just looking at funny goat faces on google at work through pure boredem. Then decided it kind of resembled my own facial features. Unionjack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Juventus are set to offer Chelsea £15m to take Spanish striker Alvaro Morata, 25, on loan. (Express) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, DDA said: 🤣 Well now you say it, I am as stubborn as an old goat. Actually I was just looking at funny goat faces on google at work through pure boredem. Then decided it kind of resembled my own facial features. haha Looks a LITTLE like manpe's head on his Av manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Unionjack said: haha Looks a LITTLE like manpe's head on his Av manpe's av is far superior. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, DDA said: manpe's av is far superior. Should make a signature with it bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,939 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 48 minutes ago, Unionjack said: Should make a signature with it bud. I have no idea how to do that kind of shit tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, DDA said: I have no idea how to do that kind of shit tbh. I'll have a play if iget time maybe Not had a play in photoshop in ages If ya find a particular image ya like send it meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Mana said: We didn't chase Aubameyang when he was available in January. A player that has a track record of 20+ goals. Because the board (and many of us) thought Morata would turn the corner. He's not going to turn the corner, probably ever. I'm not just looking at his Chelsea's career where he missed 3 1v1s, I'm talking about his ENTIRE career so far. I wanted Auba, as he is capable. If we had him, top 4 would have been ours. The mistakes this board made, hurts us yet again. God so help me if Morata remains our key man next season. That'll be 2 seasons without CL (unless maybe we win the EL by luck). I've haven't been this negative towards a player since Torres. I don't like being this negative. But the club is in danger. Another season like this, players like Kante, Hazard etc. will start leaving and sponsors will pull out. Top players will look at Arsenal rather than us because we aren't spending cash as we used to. We need someone who scores 20+ goals in our squad. It is required if we want to win the league, let alone top 4. Who's going to do that here? Aubamayang and Morata are literally in the same class/tier. He’s not really that good. Look at how Michy was scoring at BVB for example - more to do with the system than anything. He isn’t that good of a striker. Plus, once his speed is gone, he’ll be extremely average. Amblève. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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