Last Sicarius 610 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Well Tolisso is Bayern player so he will be our player :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 10 hours ago, cfcs most wanted said: Attacking creativity from the wing backs isn't enough. You gotta have someone to break teams down when they are setup to defend. Sometimes that one beautiful pass is all you need to win a game, and as for now in our playing 11 there is not a single guy capable of doing that. Either play Fabregas or find some other creative midfielder suited for the job. But a team of Bakayoko/ Matic and Kante won't win you matches in the long run. You do know we have Hazard and are looking to get another attacker in who can create next to him? It's not just our wing backs that provide the creativity. Our inside forwards too. Plus David Luiz from deep. That's 5 players that can provide consistent creative nuance - half of the team. How's that not enough? Especially in Conte's system? Again, I ask the question - have we truly struggled to break down low blocks this season? Is that a problem we need to rectify? Or is it our midfield getting overrun in big games? You should know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, The Skipper said: You do know we have Hazard and are looking to get another attacker in who can create next to him? It's not just our wing backs that provide the creativity. Our inside forwards too. Plus David Luiz from deep. That's 5 players that can provide consistent creative nuance - half of the team. How's that not enough? Especially in Conte's system? Again, I ask the question - have we truly struggled to break down low blocks this season? Is that a problem we need to rectify? Or is it our midfield getting overrun in big games? You should know the answer. Good point. I remember going to the Burnley game last season which we beat them 3-0 and I was thinking it would be obvious Fabregas was going to play. He never and I was thinking this might be a long day with Matic and Kante but I was proved wrong. That was one of our performances of the season and could of gone into double figures. The likes of Fabregas and Luiz were not even in the team so you are right, that logic has been proven wrong already as we have been clinical against a lot of teams with Matic and Kante in the team. Everton, 5-0..., United 4-0.... These are just a small sample of teams who set out to defend against us but we beat convincingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The best video I've seen of him. If you want to see how he does against pressing, watch from 40secs If you want to see his tackling, watch from minute 4.30 or so If you want to see his passing range, and accuracy watch from minute 8.40 If you want to see his aerial strength, towards the end of the video He's a better passer than I thought. He obviously doesn't have the vision of Fabregas or even Tolisso, but I thought he just used to give short passes here and there. But watching this he clearly attempts to make a lot of long range passing to the Monaco wingbacks easily and even his teammates try to make runs behind once he raises his head to pass (a sign of teammates confident that he can find them, like Pedro does when Luiz is on the ball) His weakness is obviously his passing after making a longdrive/dribble through the middle. He probably gets tired after taking on so many people, but he should improve that in time since he's just 22. He's better than Matic in passing, dribbling, winning aerial balls, strength, and he's not one footed (a huge advantage in a midfield) He could be better than Matic in tackling, because Matic hasn't been the same since Barnes injured him years ago. All in all, he's going to offer more than Matic, especially in the big games where hazard will be targeted. So having a driving force from midfield (Essien type) will be crucial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Even though he isnt a creative force himself, i wouldn't underestimate what having someone who can go past 1 or 2 players in middle can bring to the game. An unexpected turn or dribble like that can create huge spaces for our creative players at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,075 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Artandur said: Even though he isnt a creative force himself, i wouldn't underestimate what having someone who can go past 1 or 2 players in middle can bring to the game. An unexpected turn or dribble like that can create huge spaces for our creative players at times. Of course. It's Nemanja's inability to deliver that which makes upgrading in the position he plays priority number one in this window. The difference made by a player who is effective in these aspects of the game is beyond huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Artandur said: Even though he isnt a creative force himself, i wouldn't underestimate what having someone who can go past 1 or 2 players in middle can bring to the game. An unexpected turn or dribble like that can create huge spaces for our creative players at times. Baka n hazard running at players will scare any defence and midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 His dribbling reminds me of Moussa Sissoko, doubt his big and wayward touched in his dribbles will be that effective in the PL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 What's really struck a cord with me is that he's Monaco's most effective dribbler after Silva this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Wrap this thing up already, it's dragging for years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 He's away in NYC on holiday and Lukaku is also away on holiday. Can't see it being anytime soon and that's IF we sign them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Special Juan said: He's away in NYC on holiday and Lukaku is also away on holiday. Can't see it being anytime soon and that's IF we sign them. Seems like both are done. If not, then with most other main available targets linked or sold elsewhere, other two options are that we are targeting the very best that media doesnt know about or we are missing on main targets and will again settle for cheaper alternatives in august. If we are doing business then honestly I dont care when we announce them. I dont know why people feel the impatience. But with reports going on, I wonder IF we are doing any serious business at all, that is definately concerning then. Juve didnt sign anyone yet, neither did Barca or Real, but its clear they are targeting players and they stated it multiple times. I wish our club would show some transparency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 1 minute ago, BlueLyon said: Seems like both are done. If not, then with most other main available targets linked or sold elsewhere, other two options are that we are targeting the very best that media doesnt know about or we are missing on main targets and will again settle for cheaper alternatives in august. If we are doing business then honestly I dont care when we announce them. I dont know why people feel the impatience. But with reports going on, I wonder IF we are doing any serious business at all, that is definately concerning then. Juve didnt sign anyone yet, neither did Barca or Real, but its clear they are targeting players and they stated it multiple times. I wish our club would show some transparency. I'm firmly in the camp of not panicking at all, and I fully expect that deals are sealed whoever it maybe. But I can understand the panic from some, we have a track record of buying stop gaps ala Papi Djiliboji because of failure to get things DONE and falling short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 I realy like Monaco scouting team, they also got very promising LB from Lyon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekinjo 449 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, BlueLyon said: I realy like Monaco scouting team, they also got very promising LB from Lyon. I would sign them all (their scouting team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekinjo 449 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Artandur said:  The question is who's going to be replaced with Meite? Bakayoko or Fabinho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 Just now, zekinjo said: The question is who's going to be replaced with Meite? Bakayoko or Fabinho? yeah, thats the question. they did already sign tielemans as well though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 8 hours ago, BlueLyon said: I realy like Monaco scouting team, they also got very promising LB from Lyon. Gaspar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 6 hours ago, Artandur said: yeah, thats the question. they did already sign tielemans as well though... Yep. Midfield set for them. Not sure how good this lad is though (Meite). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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