🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 John Terry

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His reading of the game is very good. Should earn the contract extension if he keeps this form up.

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I know stats don't always tell the whole story but here's the stats on our record this season with CB partnership of Terry and Cahill/Luiz..

Terry + Luiz - P6 W3 D1 L2 = 1 clean sheet (vs Steaua Bucharest)

Terry + Cahill - P7 W6 D1 = 5 clean sheets (vs Hull, Man United, Fulham and Schalke x2)

And just to add, when it's Luiz and Cahill at CB, the stats read P4 W2 D1 L1 and kept 2 clean sheets (vs Swindon and Arsenal).

[didierforever 7,349]

I know stats don't always tell the whole story but here's the stats on our record this season with CB partnership of Terry and Cahill/Luiz..

Terry + Luiz - P6 W3 D1 L2

Terry + Cahill - P7 W6 D1

more importantly,

JT+GC - 2 goals, one from benteke (unstoppable, off the post, and the other from aguero, gk error). also they have looked solid at the back and we simply have looked sure of ourselves when we have had those 2.

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more importantly,

JT+GC - 2 goals, one from benteke (unstoppable, off the post, and the other from aguero, gk error). also they have looked solid at the back and we simply have looked sure of ourselves when we have had those 2.

You mean Garry Cahill error.

[didierforever 7,349]

You mean Garry Cahill error.

seriously? near post, acute angle. i would take my chances with cech to stop that rather than a defender trying to steal the ball or try to intercept the ball and simply let the aguero thru.

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seriously? near post, acute angle. i would take my chances with cech to stop that rather than a defender trying to steal the ball or try to intercept the ball and simply let the aguero thru.

Choo Choo was talking about Cahill's error in playing Aguero onside when the others had already pushed up to spring the offside trap. His positioning and lack of awareness got exposed there..

[didierforever 7,349]

Choo Choo was talking about Cahill's error in playing Aguero onside when the others had already pushed up to spring the offside trap. His positioning and lack of awareness got exposed there..

more than GC's "error", u have to say it was aguero's brilliance.

aguero was off already came back on as the ball was been played and timed his run to perfection. i am not saying GC was not at fault at all but u have to give credit where its due. it was a moment of magic for aguero (the run, the shot) and if goals are conceded to such moments and only to such moments, i dont see any problem with it.

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more than GC's "error", u have to say it was aguero's brilliance.

aguero was off already came back on as the ball was been played and timed his run to perfection. i am not saying GC was not at fault at all but u have to give credit where its due. it was a moment of magic for aguero (the run, the shot) and if goals are conceded to such moments and only to such moments, i dont see any problem with it.

Aguero's moment of brilliance is when he took the shot which caught Cech out, not on timing his run. And if you want to talk about timing the run and praising Aguero for it, then the opposite should be thrown at Cahill for his non-timing to set the offside trap. Also, had Cahill been aware of his position, the other 3 defenders that were already ahead of him and Aguero's and positioned himself better, the goal wouldn't even have happened.

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Aguero's moment of brilliance is when he took the shot which caught Cech out, not on timing his run.

Couldn't disagree more. Aguero's run there is of the highest quality. He's between the defenders, behind Cahill's back and makes a couple of stutter steps to create maybe half a metre difference between the line Cahill is holding and the one Terry is. It's a fantastic piece of forward play and I doubt you'd get many people suggesting it was a Cahill mistake.

From there on, Aguero is on his left foot moving away from goal so it's really down to Cech not to be beaten on his near-post.

Looking at the video again, Cahill and Terry seem to be having a small conversation about Aguero before he makes the run. Again, the positioning of Aguero is fantastic, the run perfect so having a pop at 'Garry' Cahill seems a bit harsh.

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seriously? near post, acute angle. i would take my chances with cech to stop that rather than a defender trying to steal the ball or try to intercept the ball and simply let the aguero thru.

Garry got beaten with very simple movement by aguero and ended up playing him inside. Yes, Cech could have done better although it was a world class finish and you would not expect your average goal keeper to save it. But the error was in why Aguero was one-on-one with Petr, and that lies on Garry's shoulders.

[didierforever 7,349]

Aguero's moment of brilliance is when he took the shot which caught Cech out, not on timing his run. And if you want to talk about timing the run and praising Aguero for it, then the opposite should be thrown at Cahill for his non-timing to set the offside trap. Also, had Cahill been aware of his position, the other 3 defenders that were already ahead of him and Aguero's and positioned himself better, the goal wouldn't even have happened.

the goal also would not even have happened if cech was covering his near post which he should have been as there was nothing else on for aguero in that situation.

again, not saying that GC was faultless but to blame him majorly for that goal is...

[didierforever 7,349]

Garry got beaten with very simple movement by aguero and ended up playing him inside. Yes, Cech could have done better although it was a world class finish and you would not expect your average goal keeper to save it. But the error was in why Aguero was one-on-one with Petr, and that lies on Garry's shoulders.

read the post above yours from TOPTB.

also please dont say aguero was 1v1 against cech. the ball was moving away from the ball with gc alongside aguero and the only outlet being cech's nearpost is barely going 1v1.

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read the post above yours from TOPTB.

It was a simple move that all strikers make. Garry had absolutely no awareness of where Aguero was and makes the wrong decision and ends up breaking the offside trap. A mistake he's done countless times when we play a high line.

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Couldn't disagree more. Aguero's run there is of the highest quality. He's between the defenders, behind Cahill's back and makes a couple of stutter steps to create maybe half a metre difference between the line Cahill is holding and the one Terry is. It's a fantastic piece of forward play and I doubt you'd get many people suggesting it was a Cahill mistake.

From there on, Aguero is on his left foot moving away from goal so it's really down to Cech not to be beaten on his near-post.

Looking at the video again, Cahill and Terry seem to be having a small conversation about Aguero before he makes the run. Again, the positioning of Aguero is fantastic, the run perfect so having a pop at 'Garry' Cahill seems a bit harsh.

The quality of Aguero's there has simply been exaggerated. His movement then maybe decent but if you notice, Cahill's tendency of backing off opposition's player was what eventually played Aguero onside. The other 3 still did well and hold their line but as soon as Nasri (I think) got the ball, turned and made a very short run, Cahill was already backing off and it then made it easy for Aguero to get in behind the defence with his movement.

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the goal also would not even have happened if cech was covering his near post which he should have been as there was nothing else on for aguero in that situation.

again, not saying that GC was faultless but to blame him majorly for that goal is...

Like I said, that Aguero goal was a moment of individual brilliance from him. Doubt many would have expected him to shoot with his left foot from there but given that he did it, he absolutely just smashed that in with power and pace and it went past Cech in a flash. Don't think he can do much about it.

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The quality of Aguero's there has simply been exaggerated.

The quality of Aguero's there (sic) has simply been underrated.

Wow, that was easy.

His movement then maybe decent but if you notice, Cahill's tendency of backing off opposition's player was what eventually played Aguero onside.

Cahill makes the right move. He can't see Aguero (because he's behind him) but he's expecting him to make a curved run off of Terry and into the channel Cahill is monitoring. It's fantastic forward play combined with a well-timed ball.

Aguero's job there is to cause confusion and he does that better than most strikers.

But if you disagree, you disagree. Aguero's run reminds me of the runs Crespo used to make for us though, and they're very hard to defend against (although Hernan was usually called offside by linos who simply weren't used to that type of run).

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The quality of Aguero's there (sic) has simply been underrated.

Wow, that was easy.

Cahill makes the right move. He can't see Aguero (because he's behind him) but he's expecting him to make a curved run off of Terry and into the channel Cahill is monitoring. It's fantastic forward play combined with a well-timed ball.

Aguero's job there is to cause confusion and he does that better than most strikers.

But if you disagree, you disagree. Aguero's run reminds me of the runs Crespo used to make for us though, and they're very hard to defend against (although Hernan was usually called offside by linos who simply weren't used to that type of run).

:lol:

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:lol:

It became a running joke around the Bridge, the number of times he was called offside when he was perfectly level. You must have heard the grumbles and groans each time it happened.

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It became a running joke around the Bridge, the number of times he was called offside when he was perfectly level. You must have heard the grumbles and groans each time it happened.

Aah yes, the same old crap from you about 'oh, fans that go to stadiums know better bla bla bla'...

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Aah yes, the same old crap from you about 'oh, fans that go to stadiums know better bla bla bla'...

Sorry mate, didn't mean to offend. Just bringing up a memory of supporting Chelsea that was pertinent to the discussion. Didn't think that would touch a nerve.