Pedro Rodríguez

[Polo7 3,496]

Hazard and Tibo aside, none of our players will get into Barca side.

And Matic surely?

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Not sure why people are complaining about getting Pedro. There are not a lot of options available on the market and either you overpay for potential or you overpay for a name. RW has been an issue for a while now. So it's good that the issue is being resolved.

We do no need to bring in 18-21 talents who could be ready in 1-2 years to play big roles at Chelsea.

Still need to fix CM before the window closes and would be nice to address the back line as well.

[DYC. 7,542]

Hazard and Tibo aside, none of our players will get into Barca side.

Why did you have to put that in my mind...

[Clockwork 1,794]

If you compare our approach since Mourinho was hired.

Oscar, Hazard, Curtois, Mata. Players that were not expensive but could become world class.

Right now the club is buying rejects, like Fabregas and Pedro, and those guys are not coming for cheap money.

Willing to pay 40m for unproven CB, an act of disspair coming from a club with unbalanced squad, lacking depth in defense.

Cuadrado was bought for big money, barely started an oficial match, was discarded as a waste 6 months later and the club is buying a guy who is not good enough for Barcelona and would be a squad player for United or City, but will be a starting 11 here.

When you see what clubs like Liverpool, United, City and Arsenal are doing, theres 0 reason to be optimistic.

2013 the future looked exciting. Squad offered many options and team needed some adjustments. The squad is getting weaker season after season.

I honestly don't think we can attract the likes of Isco/reus/pogba, etc with Mou in charge. I think all this negative media surronding his tactics in recent years has a had a inverse effect on potential incoming players.

I don't think they want to come here to park the bus against top compeittion or worse be benched in favor of a more defensive player. Most talkChelsea members say only result matter, but potential players would disagree. People here are ok with extreme mundane results and tactics but still want to sign shiny new toys. Sorry you can't have it both ways.

Let's face it barca rejects Is the best we can do. But at least Pedro provides an added deminsion to our team and more competition.

Those players you mentioned signed because of a notion of a new era of Chelsea football and an exciting project. I feel people are crazy to think that Hazard would sign here if he saw current Chelsea football.

[Tomo 21,751]

That is exactly my observation. Since Jose came he has managed to increase the average age of the squad from 24. For three consecutive season he has brought in three washed up old strikers, and two of those were his former players, and one being a player of his agent. So he could have gradually Bamford and Solanke since his return if he has a long term plan for the club. I guess winning an under-20 CL doe not mean anything to him. He has also reduced the creativity of the team considerably and has zero plans to play attractive football.

Sorry what?

The problem before Jose came back was too much long term planning, apart from Cech we didn't have one single player in the squad that was top bracket or even just under in their prime, we either had potential or expuerenced players past their prime, or rubbish.

Long term is such an overrated cliche in football, if we didn't sign Eto'o for a year we would have probably struggled for top 4, Drogba came back as a squad player because of his dressing room impact, helped the mentality of the squad turned them into winner's and has now left a hero again, just because you sign some expierence at times doesn't mean you are short sighted, far from it. Although Falcao is looking pointless I'll agree there.

As for no plans to play attractive football, I take it you missed the first 6 months of last season?

[didierforever 7,349]

Hazard and Tibo aside, none of our players will get into Barca side.

matic? defo better than biscuits.

[Tomo 21,751]

Why did you have to put that in my mind...

Because whether we like it or not, Barca and Madrid are the top bracket, we can build as good a team as them in a unit, but they will always have first dibs on 90% of the superstars.

[DYC. 7,542]

matic? defo better than biscuits.

I wish he was better.

[Tomo 21,751]

@polo and didier, fair shout, although I personally think politics will keep Busquets in theside Barca born and bred and that, but on merit defiantly Matic ahead of him.

[DYC. 7,542]

Because whether we like it or not, Barca and Madrid are the top bracket, we can build as good a team as them in a unit, but they will always have first dibs on 90% of the superstars.

True. Might not be capable of creating a team full of superstars, but more than 1 should be possible.

[didierforever 7,349]

I wish he was better.

i think as a DM, matic is much better. biscuits might have a better passing range (though he is wrongly accused most of the time of doing just side passes and 5 yard passes), but in positioning, defensive awareness, tackling, etc etc matic is a better player. i personally would take matic over biscuits.

[DYC. 7,542]

I honestly don't think we can attract the likes of Isco/reus/pogba, etc with Mou in charge. I think all this negative media surronding his tactics in recent years has a had a inverse effect on potential incoming players.

I don't think they want to come here to park the bus against top compeittion or worse be benched in favor of a more defensive player. Most talkChelsea members say only result matter, but potential players would disagree. People here are ok with extreme mundane results and tactics but still want to sign shiny new toys. Sorry you can't have it both ways.

Let's face it barca rejects Is the best we can do. But at least Pedro provides an added deminsion to our team and more competition.

Those players you mentioned signed because of a notion of a new era of Chelsea football and an exciting project. I feel people are crazy to think that Hazard would sign here if he saw current Chelsea football.

This is a very fair point. I've thought about this as well. I know it would matter to me if I was an extremely talented professional footballer.

[DYC. 7,542]

i think as a DM, matic is much better. biscuits might have a better passing range (though he is wrongly accused most of the time of doing just side passes and 5 yard passes), but in positioning, defensive awareness, tackling, etc etc matic is a better player. i personally would take matic over biscuits.

Busquets is an excellent DM, which very much includes his defending. Not one DM reads the game like him. He's a strong tackler as well. Easily better than Matic imo.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Which means we will never bear Barcelona or Real Madrid in UCL. You are kind of degrading us not sure you whether you are seeing that or not.

Saying they are the best 2 teams in the world means we aren't good enough and why would a team that wants to be best get the rejects of the best team, to me it makes no sense.

You've twisted my point. My point is you guys are underestimating a player because he's a Barcelona or Madrid reject. Robben a reject starts for bayern, so stop acting like I'm downgrading us. If we want to be above them instantly and be as dominant as them for years, we need our messi or ronaldo. Fact

Anything else will be one year spells of athletico or Dortmund or Juventus.

But how many available quality players are out there?? Reus, Griezmann, and ????????

We sometimes can't have the eiffel tower in our homes

[Polo7 3,496]

Busquets is an excellent DM, which very much includes his defending. Not one DM reads the game like him. He's a strong tackler as well. Easily better than Matic imo.

Barcelona can play with Bravo at DM and he will look world class.