🇪🇸 Pedro Rodríguez

[Pacquiao 1,834]

dude, why do you think only you know how the world works? apparently everyone else is just playing fifa or is clueless. get off your high horse.

if we trigger the buyout clause, the ball is in pedro's court. a barcelona youth player who has spent his life there. why do you think they would have made him sign a contract which made his buyout reduce from 150mil euros (apparently) to 30mil euros (again apparently). you think barca would not have made sure that they are covered in every which way? this is a team that is buying players in a transfer ban and has done every shady thing possible when related to transfer. if they want to keep pedro (which i think should be obvious) they will end up keeping him.

oh the irony!

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Vids and stats are only of limited use when judging a player, as you've already acknowledged above. Head off to Pedro's thread on the main Barca forum, though, and you'll find a number of posts over the last few pages praising his link-up play in the final third etc. Most of those people have watched him for years, and know all of his strengths and weaknesses.

Ultimately, whilst I DO think that there are other players out there who may be capable of allowing the team to improve massively (Reus, Bale, maybe Isco etc), these players appear to be unavailable to us at this time, and so it seems that we shall either have to go for players like Pedro, or otherwise simply purchase no further attacking players at all.

Pedro is technically gifted, a good short passer, a decent (but not brilliant) dribbler, and a fairly reliable goal-scorer with intelligent off-the-ball movement. Add to that the fact that he's a pretty fast player who is capable of using his speed effectively, and I think he could serve us (very) well as the 'goal-scoring AM/RM' that we've been hoping for. Schurrle and Cuadrado haven't worked out for us due to their relatively average levels of technique and passing ability, whilst Willian possesses the technique required but fails to be a consistent attacking threat for us on the right; Pedro could potentially offer us a blend of their various qualities/abilities when playing on the right, and so provide us with genuine balance across the AM positions.

It would be no different than the musings of Chelsea supporters about our players.

I'm not saying it won't be a good signing, he's the type of player who is very efficient, hasn't got a lot of mileage on his legs and can make an impact as a starter or off the bench.

Not sure we see eye to eye on the his skill set and attributes but that is highly subjective. How we use words to describe a player is left up to interpretation... I like him as a player who will challenge our RW players to be better.

[didierforever 7,349]

oh the irony!

atleast i dont go about quoting people trying to prove them wrong and then getting embarassed.

ps - still waiting for the messi stats. :lol:

[Gilvorak 3,734]

A few days ago a certain poster laughed at the idea of Pedro being compared with Arda Turan. Now Mourinho is interested suddenly he's all for it.

[JaKstone 307]

so since turan was not the option, now pedro is not the option, please tell me who you think is a REALISTIC OPTION. or do you think going into the season with 4 AMs for 3 positions (one of which is cuadrado) is enough?

also, if he is good enough as a rotation option then is not that exactly what we are looking for?

We are looking for a starting RW and if it means to overpay to get someone than we should do it. This chicken approach won't help us in the long run. I know for sure i'd rather spend 50m on Reus than stitch it yet again with another stop gap option like Pedro for 20m.

Yes, yes i know we aren't even linked to him or someone like him and it looks impossible for some of them to move this summer but please money talks im sure if we make a good offer for any of Reus, Griezmann, Isco or even Gotze they would think twice about it.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Pedro is alot better than Willian in every aspect. He'll be a huge improvement on him. We can still recoup alot of that £20m a year or 2 down the line if a player like Reus, Bale etc becomes available.

[mediator 2,026]

He has contract with Barcelona untill 2019 according to transfermarkt.

yeah right now, but not 1 month or 2 ago

[didierforever 7,349]

We are looking for a starting RW and if it means to overpay to get someone than we should do it. This chicken approach won't help us in the long run. I know for sure i'd rather spend 50m on Reus than stitch it yet again with another stop gap option like Pedro for 20m.

Yes, yes i know we aren't even linked to him or someone like him and it looks impossible for some of them to move this summer but please money talks im sure if we make a good offer for any of Reus, Griezmann, Isco or even Gotze they would think twice about it.

reus is not linked to us (as you have said, also if we have the money, so do RM and bayern)

greizemann - this fascination with greizemann has got to end. like you said, we are looking for a RW. he is not a right winger. he is a second striker or a LW. i dont understand why people want to pay 44 million pounds for a player who is not even needed for that position.

isco - CAM (brilliant signing to replace oscar and improve our starting 11 but not our RW position).

gotze - CAM (same scenario as isco).

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Reus is unavailable at the moment. You've just seen Delph reject City yesterday, maybe he wants to stay at Dortmund? Griezmann & Pedro are the same level. Hell, I'd argue the latter is the better player.

Would be stupid to move for Griezmann when Sterling was available though.

[MrBlueGuy 1,552]

Pedro is alot better than Willian in every aspect. He'll be a huge improvement on him. We can still recoup alot of that £20m a year or 2 down the line if a player like Reus, Bale etc becomes available.

End product yh maybe but overall Willian is a much better player.

Pedro of 10-11 was one of the best winger in the world, nowadays he is probably just a winger that is good enough for Sevilla aka Jesus Navas like and anyone can see these type of players are not good enough to be starting for us and improve our 11

[WNDS 502]

We are looking for a starting RW and if it means to overpay to get someone than we should do it. This chicken approach won't help us in the long run. I know for sure i'd rather spend 50m on Reus than stitch it yet again with another stop gap option like Pedro for 20m.

Yes, yes i know we aren't even linked to him or someone like him and it looks impossible for some of them to move this summer but please money talks im sure if we make a good offer for any of Reus, Griezmann, Isco or even Gotze they would think twice about it.

Reus doesn't appear to be on the market, Griezmann is currently not much better than Pedro overall, and Gotze would likely end up having the same issues with Mourinho that Mata had. Isco is the one player you've listed here who MIGHT both be available and be able to address the needs of our current team; I don't think that he would be played on the right if we were to get him, though.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

i am all for this transfer, dude.

pedro is a good player. good finisher, brilliant movement, great workrate and a very good passer in closed spaces. 21mil pounds in a market where sterling went for 50mil is a bargain.

moreover, he is a barca player. they are more experienced in breaking down defences than any one else in the world. he would be a very good signing.

i am just doubtful about the transfer actually going through considering barca's situation.

yeah i bet Barca are shitting themselves, as they obviously give Messi and Neymar rests all the time and they always subsitute them as well dont they.

if you think Barca are the slightest bit worried about going into next season with Messi, Neymar and Suarez as the front 3 with Munir and Sandro as back up until January then you are delusional.

[didierforever 7,349]

yeah i bet Barca are shitting themselves, as they obviously give Messi and Neymar rests all the time and they always subsitute them as well dont they.

if you think Barca are the slightest bit worried about going into next season with Messi, Neymar and Suarez as the front 3 with Munir and Sandro as back up until January then you are delusional.

is that the reason barca bought turan and vidal before the transfer ban? hmmm.. interesting. they definitely dont seem concerned about squad strength.. :lol:

i mean barca players are made of steel and have never ever got injured before.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

atleast i dont go about quoting people trying to prove them wrong and then getting embarassed.

ps - still waiting for the messi stats.

Oh the irony once again!

you get embarrasssed on here everyday, stop lying to yourself.

Amd as for Messi's stats, i simply worded it wrong i was talking about Oscar's first 6 years as a pro compared to Messi's first 6 years as a pro

Oscar played 20,000+ Minutes (with no pre-season for 4 years)

Messi played 15,000+ Minutes

[Pacquiao 1,834]

is that the reason barca bought turan and vidal before the transfer ban? hmmm.. interesting. they definitely dont seem concerned about squad strength.. :lol:

i mean barca players are made of steel and have never ever got injured before.

LOL i said until January, they clearly will not be worried.

[didierforever 7,349]

Oh the irony once again!

you get embarrasssed on here everyday, stop lying to yourself.

Amd as for Messi's stats, i simply worded it wrong i was talking about Oscar's first 6 years as a pro compared to Messi's first 6 years as a pro

Oscar played 20,000+ Minutes (with no pre-season for 4 years)

Messi played 15,000+ Minutes

hahahhahah... oh so after 10-15 to and fros, now you remember that you worded it wrong... hahahahha... what a way to get embarassed. trying to save face?

yes, i totally got embarassed yesterday when i showed you the stats?

[didierforever 7,349]

LOL i said until January, they clearly will not be worried.

oh.. i dint know that injuries dont happen before jan. also, i always thought that you cant win a title until jan but you definitely can lose one. specially when you competitor is RM who can are likely to get 85+ or 90+ points each season.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

hahahhahah... oh so after 10-15 to and fros, now you remember that you worded it wrong... hahahahha... what a way to get embarassed. trying to save face?

yes, i totally got embarassed yesterday when i showed you the stats?

I remembered it at the time, just couldnt be bothered embarrasing you further after you said when did i ever say no pre-season has no effect on a player, and then i went and showed you where you said it in the Turan thread! Awkward

[Pacquiao 1,834]

oh.. i dint know that injuries dont happen before jan. also, i always thought that you cant win a title until jan but you definitely can lose one. specially when you competitor is RM who can are likely to get 85+ or 90+ points each season.

you do realise if Messi, Neymar or Suarez got injured before or after January Barca would be in trouble regardless, Turan and Vidal are certainlly not going to make up for the goals that Barca would lose if one of them got injured.

[didierforever 7,349]

I remembered it at the time, just couldnt be bothered embarrasing you further after you said when did i ever say no pre-season has no effect on a player, and then i went and showed you where you said it in the Turan thread! Awkward

lol this is embarassing, yet again for you.

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14112-8-oscar/?p=1115323

"in all the debate today, where once have i said that pre-season would not matter"

and just to make sure that i dint edit it, lets take the statement you quoted,

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14112-8-oscar/?p=1115329

hmmm.. embarassing indeed.

oh, so a guy who was bothered to point out every thing, quote, re-qoute me and others for 20 different times was not bothered to point that part out... hahahahahha... this is embarassing indeed.

also, do you start using your selfie as a sign when you are getting embarassed just to cover it up?