Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Despite not possessing exceptional vision, he IS actually very good at picking-out clever passes in and around the box to create openings for others. His passing is less effective/imaginative in the middle-third of the pitch, however.show me. All I've seen from him is intelligent runs and clinical finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Okay he scores goals, and?yes because goals are not important are they?He can score, can dribble, is 2 footed, good passer, good vision, good first touch, very comfortable in possession, works hard defensivley, presses the ball as good as anyone, is a big game player, is comfortbale receiveing the ball to his feet or played through to him to run onto, is dangerous on the counter attack and knows how to play against parked busesProbably isnt worth the £20 Million is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 show me. All I've seen from him is intelligent runs and clinical finishing.Which is exactly what we need. Everything else is a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I could get assists on Barca. Just pass the ball to Messi and let him do all the work, take that assists total with a grain of salt. Look at his key pass totals.He does very dangerous balls across the box , which take some skill.Cesc got less assists at last season in barca , despite playing more games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 yes because goals are not important are they?He can score, can dribble, is 2 footed, good passer, good vision, good first touch, very comfortable in possession, works hard defensivley, presses the ball as good as anyone, is a big game player, is comfortbale receiveing the ball to his feet or played through to him to run onto, is dangerous on the counter attack and knows how to play against parked busesProbably isnt worth the £20 Million is he?he can score, he can't dribble, is a good passer, not the best vision, great touch, okay in possession, nothing he does defensively suggests he's a hard worker(but that is subjective perhaps what you deem hard work is much lower than what I do)He is 100% worth 20M but definitely not based on your criteria. you've missed the mark by a wide margin in terms of what he can do on the pitch but that's not a huge deal. I see him as coming in and giving us competition at the right flank, similar to Schurrle who just didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 He does very dangerous balls across the box , which take some skill.Cesc got less assists at last season in barca , despite playing more games.really? now we're bringing Cesc into the discussion? the guy who often played as the finisher for Barca... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 he can score, he can't dribble, is a good passer, not the best vision, great touch, okay in possession, nothing he does defensively suggests he's a hard worker(but that is subjective perhaps what you deem hard work is much lower than what I do)He is 100% worth 20M but definitely not based on your criteria. you've missed the mark by a wide margin in terms of what he can do on the pitch but that's not a huge deal. I see him as coming in and giving us competition at the right flank, similar to Schurrle who just didn't work out.LOL you cleary havent seen him play very often have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Which is exactly what we need. Everything else is a bonus.I ain't mad at the acquisition of Pedro, this trail started when someone said he's going to be an everyday starter for us based on the fact he can do everything Willian can and he scores goals... I don't see that at all but everyone has their own way of interpreting the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 LOL you cleary havent seen him play very often have you?Nope. Never... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Nope. Never...thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 really? now we're bringing Cesc into the discussion? the guy who often played as the finisher for Barca...Well you could get assists there , so why is cesc irrelevant. All you have to do is pass to messi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Well you could get assists there , so why is cesc irrelevant. All you have to do is pass to messiCesc never had to do that he played striker, he was the person the moves were fashioned for... Do you see the difference? A winger tends to be involved in the build up more than a finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Cesc never had to do that he played striker, he was the person the moves were fashioned for... Do you see the difference? A winger tends to be involved in the build up more than a finisher.But cesc was still one of the best assisters in the league, that transferred to chelsea. I don't see why pedro will be different. Especially if falcao comes good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 So one year later you dont think they have improved? There is a reason why they have been promised a place in the squad next seasonAnd if we meet his release clause then its not up to Barca whether they sell or not, its then up to Pedrothey already had a place in squad last season. they have been promised NOTHING new.barca have MSN, rakitic, iniesta, biscuits and pedro as their ONLY options for front 6. selling pedro would be idiotic to say the least.LOL, if only things were as simple as that. they are barca, they ll pay pedro 2-3mil extra if they have to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 But cesc was still one of the best assisters in the league, that transferred to chelsea. I don't see why pedro will be different. Especially if falcao comes goodI'm confused... What is the correlation between Cesc, Pedro and Falcao? Why does Cesc's assist totals here mean Pedro is the best solution on the flank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNDS 502 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 show me. All I've seen from him is intelligent runs and clinical finishing.This vid below shows some of Pedro's 'highlights' from 2014 (possibly the worst calendar year of his career so far). I think there's plenty here to suggest he could be very useful for us, and not just because he can score goals from the AM positions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRgxEKERums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 they already had a place in squad last season. they have been promised NOTHING new.barca have MSN, rakitic, iniesta, biscuits and pedro as their ONLY options for front 6. selling pedro would be idiotic to say the least.LOL, if only things were as simple as that. they are barca, they ll pay pedro 2-3mil extra if they have to keep him. I'm certain it doesn't just come down to paying him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 I'm certain it doesn't just come down to paying him more.there will be a lot more things, but i am pretty sure, barca will get what they want. also, i am pretty sure, they would not want to sell pedro until jan. so honestly, i dont have any hope for this right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 This vid below shows some of Pedro's 'highlights' from 2014 (possibly the worst calendar year of his career so far). I think there's plenty here to suggest he could be very useful for us, and not just because he can score goals from the AM positions:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRgxEKERumsFirstly I never once suggested he couldn't be useful to us. Anyone who can finish off moves with goals is an asset to our club. My point of contention is I don't think he makes us a hell of a lot better than we currently are.And while the vids can definitely be used to support ones claim, its not the only reliable source of info. Stats also show limited amounts of info as well but since you have a video to support your claim I will come with stats... We'll probably end up somewhere in the middle when this is all said and done, assuming you're not as stubborn as some here.The season you highlighted was 2013-14 in which his OPTA stats on some of the things we are talking aboutin 37 games that year Pedro averaged0.6 accurate crosses and 1.5 inaccurate crosses a game.His key pass average was 1 per game and of that, 0.2 came from the cross and 0.1 came via through ball... 0.7 was categorized as other(granted he was often a finisher so those numbers are not the best representation)None of his assists came via cross or through ball that season.As an asset to us, for me, it will be finishing off chances not creating them or providing width for the team to operate in the middle. He doesn't have the capabilities to dribble past people with a high level of success as the 1.5 unsuccessful and 1 successful dribble per game would illustrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 12, 2015 Share Posted July 12, 2015 Rather get him than Sterling. For less than half the price? Fuck yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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