rantdeville 195 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Serious question, is this a joke or is there a real possibility of this happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I can't believe people still complain about Torres not getting any service. Are Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Marin not creative enough? It takes two to tango and those four have been without a partner for a long time. There are two aspects to scoring a conventional goal: creating and finishing. The creating is there, but the finishing isn't. It's not enough for the creators to look for the finisher, the finisher has to look for the creator - which sadly Torres seems to fail a lot at. It just so happens that Falcao is a better dancer than Torres but not only that he creates a chance for himself and can finish it.If that makes sense, my job is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royg 96 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Its not easy to create goals when your opponent is in a bus like defense. The only way i see itviscwe didnt put pressure when AM have possesion. Nobody wants to win the ball, just jogging around watching the ball not the players movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I can't believe people still complain about Torres not getting any service. Are Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Marin not creative enough? It takes two to tango and those four have been without a partner for a long time. There are two aspects to scoring a conventional goal: creating and finishing. The creating is there, but the finishing isn't. It's not enough for the creators to look for the finisher, the finisher has to look for the creator - which sadly Torres seems to fail a lot at. It just so happens that Falcao is a better dancer than Torres but not only that he creates a chance for himself and can finish it.If that makes sense, my job is done.They weren't creative at all in the Supercup... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 We should stop trying to find excuses for Torres everytime he doesn't score. We are the champions of Europe, we need a man who can constantly score, he doesn't seem to be able to do that, so he's a problem for us. I mean, I like Fernando, but I'm kind of out of patience. I'm tired of us almost throwing parties when he scores and always finding excuses when he doesn't. This is not normal.Therefore, maybe we should try someone else.Falcao is clearly a goal scoring machine. How come he never complains about poor service, bad luck, etc? It would be absolutely amazing to have him in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I am sick of the 'service' argument. We don't need a goal poacher, we need someone who can create all by himself to replace Drogba. Falcao appears to fit that bill.If Torres needs the ball to be served up on the platter a dozen times a match to put away a goal, then he would be better served going to a club like Atletico or Liverpool, where current circumstances dictate that its worthwhile to set up a team to do nothing other than bring out the best in a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Wtf? No one is making excuses for Torres. It's just one game where he didn't get any service at all, that's fact. Even Falcao wouldn't have scored for us on that day, that's how poor we were. Falcao isn't even the type of striker that can pick up the ball and create chances for himself - he relies on decent service himself. The difference between Torres and Falcao though is that Falcao can take the half chances that come his way a lot more than Torres can. He creates goals in that sense but no way will he bulldozer through defenders and smash it in top corner like Drogba did. Most of Falcao's goals are in the box. Everyone needs to stop getting their knickers in a twist. It's one game where Torres and the team performed shit, people are just pointing out we didn't create anything worthwhile in the match. Doesn't mean we're making excuses for him again. Perspective guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Yes. Falcao isn't striker who would creating everything by himself, he's poacher as Torres is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I am sure if Torres was in the opposition's side,he too would have scored 3 goals against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Yes. Falcao isn't striker who would creating everything by himself, he's poacher as Torres is.They are completely different. Torres uses (used) his pace to beat the defenders and run on to though balls, so he is one on one with the keeper. That is pretty much Torres' only plan of attack.Does Falcao do that? Or does he do more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 He's a great striker, but any world class striker would've done the exact same thing he did to us.We left him far too much space, infact i think we are very lucky he didn't score more, could've easily of shitted on us. Even a Championship team would've done better, we went in that game like we didn't even have a plan or anything. No one was even trying to take Falcao out of the game, even though he is there most dangerous player.And shot those Messi and Ronaldo comparrisons away please, that's just stupidity. As Ronaldo and Messi are clearly on another level.haha! you think im basing this on one game? I have been watching Falcao since his Porto days i just love watching him play, you can guarantee every-time Atletico are live on sky this season i will be watching! i agree we did make it easy for Falcao but he is an absolute beast and even if we were at our best he still most likely would have scored! he is the type of striker who is unplayable more often than not, he has everything. amazing movement, two footed, clinical finisher, great heading ability, capable of creating his own chances and scoring goals with just half chances. He can hold the ball up, beat players with ease, he can drop deep and link up with the midfielder as well as drifting out wide at times as well to create space for his team mates. No other striker comes near him!He has scored 114 goals in 140 games since he has come to Europe! If Falcao had a team built around him with the type of quality players that Messi has around him then i think it would very possible for Falcao to score 50+ goals a season like Messi and Ronaldo! if Falcao does come to Chelsea and RDM decides to build the team around Falcao with players like Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Marin ect behind him i certainly wouldn't put it past him to get those kind of statsbut i know thats your thing when people start talking up a player your always their to get the attention you crave by saying he isn't that good ect. just like what you said about Hazard, how did that work out for you btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capriccioso 2,545 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Wtf? No one is making excuses for Torres. It's just one game where he didn't get any service at all, that's fact. Even Falcao wouldn't have scored for us on that day, that's how poor we were.Falcao isn't even the type of striker that can pick up the ball and create chances for himself - he relies on decent service himself. The difference between Torres and Falcao though is that Falcao can take the half chances that come his way a lot more than Torres can. He creates goals in that sense but no way will he bulldozer through defenders and smash it in top corner like Drogba did. Most of Falcao's goals are in the box.Everyone needs to stop getting their knickers in a twist. It's one game where Torres and the team performed shit, people are just pointing out we didn't create anything worthwhile in the match. Doesn't mean we're making excuses for him again. Perspective guys.I did say that Falcao 'appears' to fit the bill. And the striker doesn't necessarily have to be built like Drogba. They could for example just be great at dribbling and suddenly carve out a 1v1 by themselves by dribbling past a couple of defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Wtf? No one is making excuses for Torres. It's just one game where he didn't get any service at all, that's fact. Everyone needs to stop getting their knickers in a twist. It's one game where Torres and the team performed shit, people are just pointing out we didn't create anything worthwhile in the match. Doesn't mean we're making excuses for him again. Perspective guys.Just one game? Well, I'm sorry, I must've been somewhere else for the rest of the time, because from all I know, Torres has a problem with scoring goals since he came here. But hell, it's only been almost 2 years, maybe he needs more accomodation time. It was service's fault when we had Ramires, Lampard, Mata, Meireles and Mikel. Now we have Hazard, Oscar, Mata, Lampard, Ramires, Meireles and Mikel and it's still not Torres's fault? Come on...The only difference between Torres and Falcao is that Falcao scores. A lot. That's fact.Too bad we didn't trade Fernando for Falcao when we had the chance (at least according to the media). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 The only difference between Torres and Falcao is that Falcao scores. A lot.That's the difference between a worldclass striker and a good striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 I can't believe people still complain about Torres not getting any service. Are Hazard, Mata, Oscar and Marin not creative enough? It takes two to tango and those four have been without a partner for a long time. There are two aspects to scoring a conventional goal: creating and finishing. The creating is there, but the finishing isn't. It's not enough for the creators to look for the finisher, the finisher has to look for the creator - which sadly Torres seems to fail a lot at. It just so happens that Falcao is a better dancer than Torres but not only that he creates a chance for himself and can finish it.If that makes sense, my job is done.Sorry what service did he get against AM? They sat deep, closed out the space to work in and defending brilliantly. Of course if just one of our pathetic crosses had actually hit a dangerous area maybe he would have scored.... Instead most sailed over the bar into the keepers arms or off for a throw in.However Falcao is clearly in the form off his life, can Nandi match him? Probably not.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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