Radamel Falcao

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Bullet well and truly dodged.

[DH1988 1,304]

Few years ago yes, now? My my, as above, he looks shot and just trying to milk whatever wage(s) he can.

[Ljpaddock 187]

He shouldn't have been a little bitch and gone to Monaco. Maybe he wouldn't be so dogshit now if he had higher ambition and could have avoided getting smashed playing a plumber or whatever

[The Mak 4,459]

Physically maybe, but when I saw United this season Falcao still has the nessesery technical qualities to make some sort of inpact, Torres even in his prime was getting by on pace and explosiveness which hid the fact he was actually very limited technically, a fact laid bare for all to see when he lost those two major assets.

I know the Liverpool Torres was a long time ago in terms of football, but there is no way you can say he was technically limited and insinuate he was simply a speed merchant. A speed merchant is someone like SWP, but THAT Torres had so much more to his game than that. His dribbling, positioning, first touch and finishing were all world class and he was good enough at holding up the ball and very comfortable as a lone striker. You can't look at something like this and say he simply relied on pace:

Look at the compilation of his Liverpool goals as well and see others displaying fantastic technical abilities.

Yes, pace was very much part f his game, but he was too mentally weak to adapt. The £50m tag and expectation crushed what little confidence he had left (he still managed to score two great goals against us just before we bought him) and ruined his touch, dribbling and finishing accordingly.

Falcao might be more technically gifted than Torres was, but pace was still a big part of his game (see his goal vs Real) and he's mentally stronger than Torres. The only difference that might make is possibly 10 more goals and a few extra assists a season - not a great deal better than Torres in all honesty, and not even half of what he was. No word of a lie, Charlie Austin would be a better buy in terms of a 2nd striker.

[Hamilton 2,120]

Are there also real rumoured theads lately?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Are there also real rumoured theads lately?

No, because we don't look like we're really going to sign anyone this month, so people and media are having to make stuff up.....more than usual.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

I know the Liverpool Torres was a long time ago in terms of football, but there is no way you can say he was technically limited and insinuate he was simply a speed merchant. A speed merchant is someone like SWP, but THAT Torres had so much more to his game than that. His dribbling, positioning, first touch and finishing were all world class and he was good enough at holding up the ball and very comfortable as a lone striker. You can't look at something like this and say he simply relied on pace:

Look at the compilation of his Liverpool goals as well and see others displaying fantastic technical abilities.

Yes, pace was very much part f his game, but he was too mentally weak to adapt. The £50m tag and expectation crushed what little confidence he had left (he still managed to score two great goals against us just before we bought him) and ruined his touch, dribbling and finishing accordingly.

Falcao might be more technically gifted than Torres was, but pace was still a big part of his game (see his goal vs Real) and he's mentally stronger than Torres. The only difference that might make is possibly 10 more goals and a few extra assists a season - not a great deal better than Torres in all honesty, and not even half of what he was. No word of a lie, Charlie Austin would be a better buy in terms of a 2nd striker.

Torres, thank goodness, is very much the past and I have no hopes that Falcao will be the future so maybe I don't have any business posting in this thread but...

I maintain that Torres has always been technically limited. While you and I clearly disagree about that, we would probably agree that one, or even fifty, examples where some piece of skill or other is successfully executed does not disprove an opinion formed by watching a player over 90 minutes on many occasions. The question therefore is whether or not that clip gives an accurate impression of Torres the player. I say it does not.

Danny Murphy tells a story of taking knowledgeable friends to watch Torres play for Liverpool. He says they would all comment on how much was lacking from the striker's game and that they found those limitations far more noticeable than the positive qualities he had. It is only opinion of course but I say Murphy's friends were right.

I heard Murphy say that on the radio but here is another quotefrom him.

"I remember when he was doing well at Liverpool talking to a couple of the lads there and they were a bit negative about his technical ability and what he didn’t have, rather than what he did have, which was pace and power. But the rest of his game has never been perfect, far from it, in fact.

There was a spell at Liverpool when he was unplayable because of his power and his pace, but once he lost that and his confidence went he became reliant on his technical ability, which he’s not very good at – his hold up play, his passing, his decision making, which is terrible."

For me, all this is true and was easy to spot. I was furious the morning I woke up and found that we had signed Torres. What followed was inevitable in my opinion.

[iseah100 5,612]

Rather get Reus

[Tomo 21,733]

I know the Liverpool Torres was a long time ago in terms of football, but there is no way you can say he was technically limited and insinuate he was simply a speed merchant. A speed merchant is someone like SWP, but THAT Torres had so much more to his game than that. His dribbling, positioning, first touch and finishing were all world class and he was good enough at holding up the ball and very comfortable as a lone striker. You can't look at something like this and say he simply relied on pace:

Look at the compilation of his Liverpool goals as well and see others displaying fantastic technical abilities.

Yes, pace was very much part f his game, but he was too mentally weak to adapt. The £50m tag and expectation crushed what little confidence he had left (he still managed to score two great goals against us just before we bought him) and ruined his touch, dribbling and finishing accordingly.

Falcao might be more technically gifted than Torres was, but pace was still a big part of his game (see his goal vs Real) and he's mentally stronger than Torres. The only difference that might make is possibly 10 more goals and a few extra assists a season - not a great deal better than Torres in all honesty, and not even half of what he was. No word of a lie, Charlie Austin would be a better buy in terms of a 2nd striker.

He did well to compensate his lack of technical ability with his pace, power, finishing etc but you don't go from having great technical ability to being unable to trap a bag of cement, you just don't.

He was even partial to the anonymous game at Liverpool against well drilled defences who didn't give him the space he thrived on.

I looked at the prime Torres in more depth when he began struggling for us, I couldn't understand how he could decline so quickly and that's when I came to the conclusion he was technically limited. That's why I was one of the first on here to say, forget it, the guy is finished!!!!

When it came to finishing there wasn't a problem, it was more in general play, but he didn't have a natural touch were the ball would stick to him, like it did with Drogba, Eto'o, Villa for example.

Hr didn't glide the ball, the way he pushed it past defenders was like he was punishing the ball, looking back it was extremely unique mind but when he lost his physical side he was always facing a steep decline.

[termninja 5,290]

Falcao to Chelsea should've happened when he was about to leave Porto or perhaps when he was about to leave Atletico... Monaco transfer was completely idiotic...

He's angry at Manu because he's on the bench but that's where he would be here also.

I can see him going to Madrid maybe since they are light on strikers, or Arsenal and Liverpool here.

[JDY 1,290]

It would be funny to see him play second fiddle to Costa, but other than that, no ty.

[supporter 3,088]

I think the signing, on loan, Falcao would be perfect for us.

He has already made clear in recent weeks that this recovered from his injury and his main problem is Van Gaal, a very stubborn man.

I remember Diego Costa is playing with caution for his injury in the hamstring, and he can not play two games a week.

Remy is a great player, but he has not shown to be well physically.

As for Drogba, I think it would be very unfair to demand Didier something more than it has already given us. He may be important in big games in defining moments, but to a hypothetical injury of Diego Costa, we may suffer too much,

I think Falcao in serious loan perfect because he is a pure striker Pure centre, capable of scoring goals without him having a lot of space, the would ask not always be in the starting eleven if he plays regularly, he knows perfectly Diego Costa and they they can play together.

He is 28 years old and many great players have had major injuries and recovered to take back their high level. And Falcao has such great winning mentality and sure that he only thinks again be a TOP player.

Now the Real Madrid already this pose immediate signing this market in January, otherwise it is now, they will return to try their loan in summer, for sure.

I share your fears to repeat again the signing of Torres, that would be horrible, I did not want to imagine it, but Torres has never been even half of the player who has been Falcao. I think Falcao can not compare with Torres. TOP Torres never been a player, Torres was only a pseudo-great player, a scam that he looked great because he played for Liverpool, and in Liverpool is easier seem a great player.

Falcao is a different player, and if we have in our team both players Diego Costa and Falcao, we may rotate them both and avoid injury all season long.

I understand and share those fears after the nightmare with Torres, but Falcao is another type of player with an immense winning mentality.

[iseah100 5,612]

Falcao is another type of player with an immense winning mentality.

He hasn't won shit and hasn't played in the CL in like 4 years

[supporter 3,088]

He hasn't won shit and hasn't played in the CL in like 4 years

Yes, this is true. But not entirely. Falcao won the Uefa League with Altetico Madrid and also with Porto, the Spanish Cup against Real Madrid coached by Mourinho, La Super Cup against us after we we won the Champions League and Also With Porto team, and he was the only player who could put up with Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in the Spanish league goals figures. And all cups which he hath made decisive goals.

Regarding his move to Monaco, this is a bit complicated. The transfer of Falcao rights belong to Jorge Mendes, the does not decide his future, Jorge Mendes who decides its future. He has not decided freely. This is the problem of agents, sometimes ruin the future of their players.

He has always wanted to play for Mourinho.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2907903/Radamel-Falcao-team-season-Manchester-United-not-sign-claims-agent-Jorge-Mendes.html

Edited January 13, 2015 by supporter

[supporter 3,088]

Yes, this is true. But not entirely. Falcao won the Uefa League with Altetico Madrid and also with Porto, the Spanish Cup against Real Madrid coached by Mourinho, La Super Cup against us after we we won the Champions League and Also With Porto team, and he was the only player who could put up with Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in the Spanish league goals figures. And all the glasses which he hath made decisive goals.

Regarding his move to Monaco, this is a bit complicated. The transfer of Falcao rights belong to Jorge Mendes, the does not decide his future, Jorge Mendes who decides its future. He has not decided freely. This is the problem of agents, sometimes ruin the future of their players.

He has always wanted to play for Mourinho.

Sorry,

Sorry, I repeated the message by mistake. I'm sorry.

Edited January 13, 2015 by supporter

[Special Juan 27,439]

He fucked off to the French league because he's a greedy bastard. Now with the loan to United it seems he is angling and wanting to be at a top side again in one of the top leagues.

Like the kid who skips school but wants to sneak back in for his favourite lesson.

[DDA 9,689]

He fucked off to the French league because he's a greedy bastard. Now with the loan to United it seems he is angling and wanting to be at a top side again in one of the top leagues.

Like the kid who skips school but wants to sneak back in for his favourite lesson.

Wait kids skipped school then sneaked in for their favourite lesson??

You must have gone to hogwarts!

[Special Juan 27,439]

Wait kids skipped school then sneaked in for their favourite lesson??

You must have gone to hogwarts!

I went to a school that was that bad even the teachers sneaked off......I only went in for three lessons.