🇨🇴 Radamel Falcao

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I was always just have a thought process of 'what if we signed Aguero?'. I mean back then he probably wouldn't have fitted into the Drogba system we had but right now I think that's the type of striker we need. I'm not so sure about Falcao coming here, because he's going to be plan A & plan B. Everyone's saying Falcao will relish the balls coming into him by Hazard, Oscar & Mata but they haven't even played much to Torres. Now that's not really a defence for Torres, but Rafa is (and rightly so) trying to get that trio of no10's to first organise their play into supplying the striker. I don't think we need the giant of Falcao, I think the quick, off the mark, Aguero, Defoe & Sturridge-type is what would work in this system.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Nobody is saying he will score on almost every shot and you are already counting him as a flop. I think you are being biased when it comes to Falcao.

Why cant you give the man a chance (if he really comes)?

1) Because it's exactly what's wrong with Chelsea. The team isn't gelling, so go out and buy the biggest name available. This is why we're in the shape we're in. We need to be building a team, a philosophy rather than this. Falcao doesn't fit with players like Mata, Oscar, and Hazard. He needs a team built for him.

2) Falcao is a pretty-one dimensional player-much more so than people want to believe. He needs service to score and is limited in a number of other ways.

3) The amount of money it would cost to buy him is insane. Especially for someone who will be 27 in a couple of months.

[fAnta 107]

1) Because it's exactly what's wrong with Chelsea. The team isn't gelling, so go out and buy the biggest name available. This is why we're in the shape we're in. We need to be building a team, a philosophy rather than this. Falcao doesn't fit with players like Mata, Oscar, and Hazard. He needs a team built for him.

2) Falcao is a pretty-one dimensional player-much more so than people want to believe. He needs service to score and is limited in a number of other ways.

3) The amount of money it would cost to buy him is insane. Especially for someone who will be 27 in a couple of months.

As far as I see we have a team that is actually set up for one man right now but is missing all his chances. torres's movements are all wrong he hardly helps himself by running to the wings. i thought that would be temporary but worringly it is not. falcaos movement on the other hand will score a goal which many would never get too. Ive watched him since he was at porto and he is not one-dimensional at all.

[themightyblue 443]

Falcao needs more than 6 shots on goal to score. People have this idea that Falcao would come into Chelsea and just score every shot or something. He has limited skills apart from his finishing.Would he be better than Torres? Yeah, but a lot of strikers would be. Would he be a good fit for Chelsea? No. I'm happy that he only has 1 goal in his last five games because maybe it means the hype will start to die down. If Chelsea go out and sign Falcao, it will prove that they've learned nothing. Going after a big name for ridiculous amounts of money who doesn't really fit with the squad.

This is such an underrating of a great player. If Falcao was merely just a 'finisher', he would not have the status and be viewed at level that he is. A finisher is what you'd describe someone like Hernandez, Huntelaar and other strikers. Falcao is a lot better than that otherwise he'd be on that same level as them. Falcao has incredible movement, heading, finishing. His link up play is vastly underrated too. I'm not sure if you watch him that often, but if you did then you'd realise why he's virtually wanted by every club in the world and is now known as one of the world's best.

And please tell me how we know whether he'd be a good fit for Chelsea? We've only seen Torres play in our current system. We need someone who can link up play with Hazard, Mata etc and put the ball in the net with the chances we create. Sturridge is able to do it on the basis of the WBA, but he's finishing just isn't good enough. There's also the case of saying that GOOD PLAYERS ADAPT. I've said this earlier in the thread, but look at RVP. People said he'd flop at United because he wouldn't be the main man, Arsenal play differently to United etc. However, like Mancini said a few weeks ago, if your a good player you'll adapt to different systems. Falcao would fit here no doubt. Our AM's need a focal point and someone who can create space for them. Falcao would do this perfectly. Same with a few other strikers

[Sheva. 5,373]

Falcao needs more than 6 shots on goal to score. People have this idea that Falcao would come into Chelsea and just score every shot or something. He has limited skills apart from his finishing.Would he be better than Torres? Yeah, but a lot of strikers would be. Would he be a good fit for Chelsea? No. I'm happy that he only has 1 goal in his last five games because maybe it means the hype will start to die down. If Chelsea go out and sign Falcao, it will prove that they've learned nothing. Going after a big name for ridiculous amounts of money who doesn't really fit with the squad.

Unlikely, just recently the Guardian wrote he would still be worth 100m lol.

I really wanted Falcao when he was at Porto, when not many here for example knew him and his price was much lower. Now if he joins, there will be so much hype and pressure on him it will be so easy for him to fail. His last 5 games have only proved he's just like every striker and he can have multiple off days.

[themightyblue 443]

Honestly, it really does get me when people just underrate Falcao's ability and just call him a finisher. NO. He's a lot more than that. Watch him closely and follow his games. Don't just base it on stats you see or the fact that he scores lots of goals. Guess the saying 'goals mask a players game' is true.......

[fAnta 107]

Honestly, it really does get me when people just underrate Falcao's ability and just call him a finisher. NO. He's a lot more than that. Watch him closely and follow his games. Don't just base it on stats you see or the fact that he scores lots of goals. Guess the saying 'goals mask a players game' is true.......

He might score too many goals for his own good, only us chelsea fans would seriously argue about signing Falcao. Any team in the world would take him. best no.9.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Aguero type of striker fits to team that passes a lot (we do) but also has at least 1/2 other players that can regulary score (at city its either Dzeko/Tevez/Balo). Aguero type of striker comes to use as he can also dribble and assist to other players, not just score. But in our team, there are NO finishers. Mata, Hazard, Moses,...are not natural finishers. Mata scores lot but he also misses more.

What is the point of having Aguero type of striker who will assist to Mata or Hazard who cant take their chances?

In our team, not only striker is required, but also someone from midfield that can score too! Reus for example is such player...

We dont have any finishers in the team and we will definately play on our striker and build around him. Cavani would be perfect for this as he can also returns, holds up the ball, has strenght, aerial threat and great finishing.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Honestly, it really does get me when people just underrate Falcao's ability and just call him a finisher. NO. He's a lot more than that. Watch him closely and follow his games. Don't just base it on stats you see or the fact that he scores lots of goals. Guess the saying 'goals mask a players game' is true.......

How is that underrating? he's a great finisher, but not much else. I wouldn't call him a complete forward like i would someone like Ibrahimovic.

[Manuf 1,448]

well, how about the reason for Torres not performing lies in Torres himself?

I bet the trio of Mata, Hazard, Oscar would love to play the ball to the striker if they knew he wouldn't lose EVERY FUCKING BALL.

[themightyblue 443]

How is that underrating? he's a great finisher, but not much else. I wouldn't call him a complete forward like i would someone like Ibrahimovic.

That's my point though. If he was just a great finisher, he'd be rated at the same level as other great finishers like Huntelaar and Hernandez. There are a lot of great finishers in the world of football. I'm not trying to claim that Falcao has brilliant link up play or anything of the sort, but his skills extend a lot further than just being a great finisher

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

You do know falcao has one of the best shot to goal ratio's in the world, being 48% also i don't think you've seen enough of his goals because he has scored some insane goals. i think his goal will win puskas too:

Also no skill?

I don't care about youtube videos of players...I hate them.. They tell you nothing about a footballer except that someone wanted to make a youtube video of them. I never said that Falcao was a bad finisher, just that he's not automatic. (And how do you get 48% when he has 11 goals on 47 shots (including 5 or 6 penalties which makes him 5 or 6 for 42 in open play).

Look at the numbers of Falcao tin comparison o players I'd consider a more well-rounded strikers in Van Persie and Cavani and his one-dimensional is obvious. Van Persie is also a fantastic passer. He has double the number of key passes..Falcao has 1 cross all season. Van Persie has 14. Falcao turns the ball over 2,8 times a game. Van Persie 1.2. Or take someone like Cavani who is much better defensively. Falcao has 8 tackles all season. Cavani has 21. Falcao has 4 clearances, Cavani has 25. Etc...Falcao is excellent at scoring but he doesn't do anything else particularly well. Falcao is not a player that's going to win you games by himself, he's going to finish chances that are provided for him at a very good rate. .For 40-50M pounds, you need a hell of a lot more than that.

[Rmpr 8,977]

1) Because it's exactly what's wrong with Chelsea. The team isn't gelling, so go out and buy the biggest name available. This is why we're in the shape we're in. We need to be building a team, a philosophy rather than this. Falcao doesn't fit with players like Mata, Oscar, and Hazard. He needs a team built for him.

2) Falcao is a pretty-one dimensional player-much more so than people want to believe. He needs service to score and is limited in a number of other ways.

3) The amount of money it would cost to buy him is insane. Especially for someone who will be 27 in a couple of months.

I agree most of our past big transfers were panic buys, but as it comes to the strikers that are possibly available right now, all of them are big names (Falcao, Cavani, Lewandoski, Pato, Huntelaar, Dzeko, etc). I know we need to create a team with players of the same style and we need leadership and identidy, it wont come before a manager and we all know it.

I wouldnt take Lewandoski, Pato nor Huntelaar. They each have their major flaws...

Dzeko would be a very good option for less than 30mi, but he is already around 150k/week. He would bring just what we need, although he still isnt the best option.

Cavani aint cheaper than 40mi + 200k/week. He is the only one who delivers everything, he is the whole package!

Falcao is that insane 100mi, but he can get the job done and is less one dimensional than you are making him. If Cavani and Dzeko are too much of a dream, we cant risk sticking with Torres...

IMO

[fAnta 107]

How is that underrating? he's a great finisher, but not much else. I wouldn't call him a complete forward like i would someone like Ibrahimovic.

And i also think Cavani is closer to being a complete forward, than him.

what you just said contradicted yourself. he's a great finisher but not much else? i disagree.

People often say torres is very good teamplayer but look at this:

fernando has 1 assist and 4 goals in epl

falcao has 14 goals and 2 assists in la liga.

not just that but he is equally very good linking up.

Ibrahimovic is a one of a kind, like drogba. theres not been may complete players like him.

[fAnta 107]

I don't care about youtube videos of players...I hate them.. They tell you nothing about a footballer except that someone wanted to make a youtube video of them. I never said that Falcao was a bad finisher, just that he's not automatic. (And how do you get 48% when he has 11 goals on 47 shots (including 5 or 6 penalties which makes him 5 or 6 for 42 in open play).

Look at the numbers of Falcao tin comparison o players I'd consider a more well-rounded strikers in Van Persie and Cavani and his one-dimensional is obvious. Van Persie is also a fantastic passer. He has double the number of key passes..Falcao has 1 cross all season. Van Persie has 14. Falcao turns the ball over 2,8 times a game. Van Persie 1.2. Or take someone like Cavani who is much better defensively. Falcao has 8 tackles all season. Cavani has 21. Falcao has 4 clearances, Cavani has 25. Etc...Falcao is excellent at scoring but he doesn't do anything else particularly well. Falcao is not a player that's going to win you games by himself, he's going to finish chances that are provided for him at a very good rate. .For 40-50M pounds, you need a hell of a lot more than that.

from shots on targets i meant. also what are you saying where did you get those stats 1 cross? i've seen him get 2 assists this season.

And falcao doesn't win games by himself, i remember this season he got a goal in last minute from a freekick winning the game.

He scored the goals in europa league final and doesn't only score in 5-0 games.

a one dimensional striker would never get the best striker in the world tag but most journalists say he is and so do most fans.

[themightyblue 443]

I don't care about youtube videos of players...I hate them.. They tell you nothing about a footballer except that someone wanted to make a youtube video of them. I never said that Falcao was a bad finisher, just that he's not automatic. (And how do you get 48% when he has 11 goals on 47 shots (including 5 or 6 penalties which makes him 5 or 6 for 42 in open play).

Look at the numbers of Falcao tin comparison o players I'd consider a more well-rounded strikers in Van Persie and Cavani and his one-dimensional is obvious. Van Persie is also a fantastic passer. He has double the number of key passes..Falcao has 1 cross all season. Van Persie has 14. Falcao turns the ball over 2,8 times a game. Van Persie 1.2. Or take someone like Cavani who is much better defensively. Falcao has 8 tackles all season. Cavani has 21. Falcao has 4 clearances, Cavani has 25. Etc...Falcao is excellent at scoring but he doesn't do anything else particularly well. Falcao is not a player that's going to win you games by himself, he's going to finish chances that are provided for him at a very good rate. .For 40-50M pounds, you need a hell of a lot more than that.

Mate are you actually serious? Please watch a few games of Falcao. Tbh I can't wait till he comes to the premier league and proves people wrong for saying he's not worth 40-50 million when he's winning trophies and scoring goals for either us or City. He won't win you games by himself? Watch an Atletico game. Ask an Atletico and tell me Falcao has never won a game by himself. This is just as bad as when people describe Drogba as a target man

[Sheva. 5,373]

what you just said contradicted yourself. he's a great finish but not much else?

People often say torres is very good teamplayer but look at this:

fernando has 1 assist and 4 goals in epl

falcao has 14 goals and 2 assists in la liga.

not just that but he is equally very good linking up.

Ibrahimovic is a one of a kind, like drogba. theres not been may complete players like him but then not all are.

Torres was a good team player last season, where he had 15 assists, now he doesn't do anything right.

That's my point though. If he was just a great finisher, he'd be rated at the same level as other great finishers like Huntelaar and Hernandez. There are a lot of great finishers in the world of football. I'm not trying to claim that Falcao has brilliant link up play or anything of the sort, but his skills extend a lot further than just being a great finisher

Like what though? i have watched him a lot, for Porto, Colombia and Atletico and the 1 thing i will tell you about him is he's a great finisher. Nothing else stands out.

[themightyblue 443]

Falcao has played in the possession based, high intesity and pressing Porto team

Played in a counter attacking Atletico team

Yet he wouldn't score goals here? I'm dumbfounded. He adapts, he can play in any system. I'm wasting my time here anyway. My advice is watch porto matches from a few years ago, watch Atletico this season and stop basing opinions on stats

[fAnta 107]

Torres was a good team player last season, where he had 15 assists, now he doesn't do anything right.

Like what though? i have watched him a lot, for Porto, Colombia and Atletico and the 1 thing i will tell you about him is he's a great finisher. Nothing else stands out.

Lol touche. at the end of the day we have an assist engine. falcao has the best aerial threat, iniesta described him in the feature of perfect player here. oscar,mata and hazard will be happy to see a striker scoring there chances and im sure chelsea fans would be too. I want a striker who can score goals. a striker that would put fear in opponents. falcao fits the bill and i hope if he comes chelsea will be a hit. you can give him a sniff and he will find a way to get the ball in the net, he has everything our attack is missing. we dominate but someone misses.

Also like i said i think because his finishing is so good people underrate his other aspects in a game. where another player would try and dribble then score falcao could probably get the ball in the net. he is a true number 9.

[TheCount 146]

You seen him tonight in the madrid derby, he was a ghost,

Against a defence almost that would be similar to what he'd encounter in the PL, he was terrible. (im not including our game against them btw, since people like to think athletico were amazing the truth of the matter was they were themselves and we didnt bother showing up)

He got no service and could not get near a goal or even make one, he's probably the world best finisher atm, and nothing more, and more important he's exactly what we dont need.