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Falcao is 28 and expensive as fuck. Destro is 24 and relatively cheap.

20 million pound does sound too much for a year. It would be at par with a 100-million pounds signing who has signed a contract for 5 years financially. So I am with you on that.

All I am saying is Destro might still not be the answers to our problems. Though Mourinho likes him, and who am I to doubt him?

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Nice comment there.

Though when i think about Destro, frankly, I never heard his name before we got linked with him. I am not sure how he plays, the stats look very good, 0.95 goals per game without any penalties? Is it? Sounds pretty good, though we have seen how the strikers from Italy play in the Premier League. Shevchenko comes to mind instantly.

We can say that Falcao is better than Destro atm, though I trust Mourinho, he knows what he's doing. If he's selling Torres, then he already has someone in his mind lined up.

I never mentioned Destro in my post. I just said the Falcao loan was way too expensive for my taste, horribly high loan price. A 20m deal is bad business.

If you want to talk about Destro, I know him a little. Not well, but a little. I used to watch Roma a bit because of Nainggolan and Strootman. I like Strootman, and I follow Nainggolan because he's Belgian. I never considered Destro as a Chelsea striker before he was linked either. 0.95 goals per game without penalties sounds good indeed, I hadn't seen that stat. Where'd you get that from? I'd love to see it.

However, there's some things to consider. First of all, Destro is A LOT cheaper than Falcao. He can be ours for 20m/25m pounds, unlike Falcao which would probably cost 60m/70m pounds. Second, Destro is 23years old, Falcao is 28. But most importantly, Falcao would never be content with a place on the bench (and neither would Costa) but Destro might be happy being second striker and getting the occasional game in CL group games or early FA cup and League cup games.

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I couldn't find the source where I read about Destro scoring 0.95 goals per game. And on Whoscored, it doesn't look like it was 0.95.

15(5) appearances, scored 13 and assisted 1 in the league. That's pretty good.

Apologies for the 0.95 goals per game stat. If I do find the source, I'll post it first thing.

Cheers. :)

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20M for a loan is insane. We have Costa as our #1 striker, we don't need another #1 striker. We need someone who can be our #2 striker. We only play with one striker so the law of diminishing returns means that the value gained by getting another big striker will be minimal.

To wit, let's say Chelsea play 50-60 games this season (and that's including early Cup ties against low opposition or CL group games of low importance). Diego Costa started 52 games for Athletico last year.Let's say we'd like him to start 40-45 games to keep him more fresh. That means we need another striker to be able to start 5-20 more games as well as be an impact sub. That means, that going after someone like Falcao for a one year period for this is a ludicrous waste of resources. We need another striker, Drogba is best suited as a #3 striker, but that doesn't mean Chelsea have to go after a big name striker and certainly not for a loan . We don't have to scrimp and save , but we can actually buy a good striker for less than we'd pay to loan Falcao. For example, Bony was 12M pounds last year, There are many many strikers who are fully capable of playing the #2 role well and could be long-term additions to the team. (BTW, Jovetic who is a very exciting young player was 22M pounds last year).

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This part:

That's right, all of it.

First of all, we wouldn't be paying 20m for the best pure striker in the world. No, we'd be paying for a loan and wouldn't own him. And he's not the best pure striker in the world. Top 5 definitely, top 3 most likely. But hasn't shown the same greatness after his injury (not saying he lost some of it but he could have but that's another discussion).

Second, if you don't care about the clubs money and how they invest it on new players, because it doesn't affect you, you're not a fan. Of course it affects you, because you are a fan and you want the club to get the best players. If they'd just toss the money around, they'd have less money to spend and would maybe get that one crazy player but wouldn't be able to get a good overall balanced squad like we have now. We've had a great transfer window this summer and the club has done some excellent business and they've done so because they've invested wisely. 32m for Costa, selling Mata and Luiz for 40m and 50m, great! Getting rid of Torres and saving money that way: great! Getting rid of the high wages of Lampard and Cole, is great business even though I'll miss them (especially Lamps)! And Fabregas was great business as well. A 20million loan is not. It's terrible business. Even for a player as great as Falcao. And how would that work with Costa? We're a one striker team, you know?

Chelsea has the money, but they don't have infinite money. You do know that, right? And FFP is something to keep in mind, altough I'm not allowed by you to mention it so I won't go into it.

And last but not least, we wouldn't have the best strike force in the world. We'd have two great strikers, but would they play together? If you have two strikers of that caliber they should, but we'll probably still play with two (or in one striker team) three AM's. We'd have a great LW in Hazard but our 10 position or RW can still use some improvement. Nowhere near the strike force of Real Madrid or Bayern...

I'm sorry I had to type it out for you, I thought you'd get it with just my one-liner but I'll try to be more clear next time.

1. I know its a loan, but if im not mistaken thats for 2 seasons. TWO seasons with a striking force of Costa and Falcao. That is a force to be reckoned with.

2. How would it work with costa? Do you think Costa can play every single game? And Didier isnt what he used to be and he wont be a striker to count with. We didnt bring him back for that reason.

3. Yes exacly, Chelsea has the money. FFP isnt an issue. I laugh when people here discuss it, im pretty sure Chelsea FC got enough people who know EXACLY how FFP works and its not like this loan would kill us. Not at all. Its simply not an ISSUE thats why I said dont mention it.

4. Im not a fan because I said its not my money? Yeah, great arguement-technique there buddy.

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The £20 million is wages as well, so it's the equivalent of him costing £60 million on a 5 year contract paying Torres-esque wages.

For a player who will be 29 before the season ends, would be second-choice and is coming off what is often a career-changing injury (usually it takes another 12 months to get back to where the sportsman was before the injury) it's an insane amount of money.

1. I know its a loan, but if im not mistaken thats for 2 seasons. TWO seasons with a striking force of Costa and Falcao. That is a force to be reckoned with.

It's one year. £12 million for the player, plus wages according to reports.

3. Yes exacly, Chelsea has the money. FFP isnt an issue. I laugh when people here discuss it, im pretty sure Chelsea FC got enough people who know EXACLY how FFP works and its not like this loan would kill us. Not at all. Its simply not an ISSUE thats why I said dont mention it.

FFP isn't really an issue because we're very savvy in the market. It's that savviness that makes it unlikely we'll do a deal like this.

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1. I know its a loan, but if im not mistaken thats for 2 seasons. TWO seasons with a striking force of Costa and Falcao. That is a force to be reckoned with.

2. How would it work with costa? Do you think Costa can play every single game? And Didier isnt what he used to be and he wont be a striker to count with. We didnt bring him back for that reason.

3. Yes exacly, Chelsea has the money. FFP isnt an issue. I laugh when people here discuss it, im pretty sure Chelsea FC got enough people who know EXACLY how FFP works and its not like this loan would kill us. Not at all. Its simply not an ISSUE thats why I said dont mention it.

4. Im not a fan because I said its not my money? Yeah, great arguement-technique there buddy.

It's 1 year for 20m pal, that's absolute madness. You can't justify it at all IMO.
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I think the hole 20m loan thing is based on then buying him for another for 20m at the end on the loan deal.Not just 20m for a year then Monaco getting him back. I maybe wrong tho

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What do you like more?

Ronaldo-Falcao-Bale

Or

Neymar Messi Suarez

Both are fucking ridiculous, but Madrid purely on the power and speed, With good tactics and defending i think you can stop barca's 3.

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Both are fucking ridiculous, but Madrid purely on the power and speed, With good tactics and defending i think you can stop barca's 3.

I'd say Barca's is more difficult to stop as with Messi and Suarez you're more likely to get a moment of individual brilliance than with Madrid's trio. Bale can be stopped pretty easily if you deny him spaces and we'll see how well Falcao does after his ACL injury.

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Everyone thinks that this Real Madrid team is going to be amazing but I've got my doubts.

Too many stars results in a difficult dressing room.

And they are playing Modric and Kroos as their two CM's with no CDM, that's just asking for trouble if you ask me.

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