Superblue 6,372 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 With the money quoted to get Falcao we could get Lewandowski, Coentrao, Llorente, and Capoue. Keeping in mind De Bruyne's return, Lamps & Cole likely to leave (Maybe Torres). I know what I'd rather happen.We need to strengthen in numerous positions, signing Falcao alone wouldn't solve our problems.I can agree with this to an extent. IMO if we buy Falcao in January we will have to pay premium, that's pretty much a fact. It depends on whether we are prepared to do this.I'm of the hope that the club can find one or two additions for our squad in January that are cost effective (keeping in mind FFP) but will help regain momentum into our season, particularly domestically.I'm still a big advocate of Demba Ba for £7.5m and Mo Diame for £3.5m. Both are tried and proven in the Premier League - Ba will add goals and put pressure on Torres, and Diame will provide some serious steel and strength to our midfield. £11m is a relatively small expense and their clubs can't demand big fees because of the release clauses. Looking towards next season and further on, both are good ages to provide excellent squad depth. We could move Torres on next season for example, and buy a world class striker (without the January panic) with Demba Ba a very capable alternative.I would also look into if possible recalling De Bruyne back, who can provide a deep playmaker option for our pivot (I believe he is at this point in time more polished to play in that position than Oscar) and can also provide depth in options further up the field. It would be a good opportunity for the club to see if he can make the step up here before we go about our transfer dealings for next season - he may save us a lot of money being spent on a big signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 A lot of assumptions being made in this thread. 1. The view is that Falcao will enable us to get into the Champions League next season and that's not something you can say about us with Torres as our main striker.That's a bit self-contradictory, don't you think?Saying we can't make it to the CL with Torres is a huge assumption. Saying that Falcao will enable us to get into CL is a completely unfounded assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I just don't see Falcao being sold in the winter while Atletico is trying to finish in the top 4. Madrid have failed to qualify for the CL in the last few years, qualifing for the CL is a major cash crop and Falcao would still be worth just as much in the summer as he is right now(perhaps more if they qualify for the CL). I think Ba is the best option to displace Torres for half a season, and we need to unload Torres even for free as long as someone else is paying his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I just don't see Falcao being sold in the winter while Atletico is trying to finish in the top 4. Madrid have failed to qualify for the CL in the last few years, qualifing for the CL is a major cash crop and Falcao would still be worth just as much in the summer as he is right now(perhaps more if they qualify for the CL). I think Ba is the best option to displace Torres for half a season, and we need to unload Torres even for free as long as someone else is paying his contract. I think most team will take torres if we pay most of his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Apparently, Spanish television have announced that Falcao has been in discussions with Chelsea all day and is signing a contract at this very moment.Nothing official as been confirmed yet and no reliable source either. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 That's a bit self-contradictory, don't you think?Saying we can't make it to the CL with Torres is a huge assumption. Saying that Falcao will enable us to get into CL is a completely unfounded assumption. Huh?I'm saying that there's a concern over Torres being able to score the goals we need to finish top-four. I'm presuming the reason we're entertaining the notion of spending £40 million on a striker is that he will be more likely to score those goals.So no, it isn't self-contradictory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Huh?I'm saying that there's a concern over Torres being able to score the goals we need to finish top-four. I'm presuming the reason we're entertaining the notion of spending £40 million on a striker is that he will be more likely to score those goals.So no, it isn't self-contradictory. Not disagreeing with what you are saying. But you were complaining about people making assumptions in this thread then you go and make 2 huge assumptions yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Not disagreeing with what you are saying. But you were complaining about people making assumptions in this thread then you go and make 2 huge assumptions yourself. Think you're being a little pedantic there. The view is that Torres won't score the goals that we need. That's not just an assumption but a verdict most fans have come to having watched him for two years. They're reasoned guesses more than assumptions. It's the reason Falcao will cost us so much, because there's a view that he will score goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Apparently, Spanish television have announced that Falcao has been in discussions with Chelsea all day and is signing a contract at this very moment.Nothing official as been confirmed yet and no reliable source either. Hmm. who's putting that about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The view is that Torres won't score the goals that we need. That's not just an assumption but a verdict most fans have come to having watched him for two years. I know that. I've known that since three month after Torres signed here. But that does not prove that we won't make it to the CL with him as our main striker. It's the reason Falcao will cost us so much, because there's a view that he will score goals. That is not guaranteed that he would be successful here. In fact, by that same logic Torres should be scoring more goals than Falcao now since he cost more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wfisheruk 23 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The odds have changed aswell on skybet from 5/6 to 1/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I know that. I've known that since three month after Torres signed here. But that does not prove that we won't make it to the CL with him as our main striker.That is not guaranteed that he would be successful here. In fact, by that same logic Torres should be scoring more goals than Falcao now since he cost more. Torres was average, actually very bad before we signed him, but people said it's because he wasn't happy and would be better at Chelsea, well that didn't work out.Falcao on the other hand is in the form of his life and has been for what? 3 seasons now? chances of him scoring more than Torres is huggge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Falcao rumours exploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 who's putting that aboutLike I said, Spanish media seem to know something. Guillem Balagué also said it on Revista de la Liga. Neither club has denies or confirmed anything though. It should be interesting to see what happens over the next few days. Something tells me this is true though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Now Balague has said in Revista La Liga that falcao to chelsea is a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Someone from Atletico will soon come out and put to rest all the rumours, it always happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Oh this is interesting. If terms were agreed between club and player, are Chelsea liable to announce it before the transfer window starts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Someone from Atletico will soon come out and put to rest all the rumours, it always happens.I bloody hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Oh this is interesting. If terms were agreed between club and player, are Chelsea liable to announce it before the transfer window starts?Yes if we agree the deal with atletico and falcao also agree's to join then we can announce it anytime but ofcourse he will only be eligible for us to play after 1st january. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Done deal? I seriously doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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