🇨🇴 Radamel Falcao

[Barbara 15,149]

You want me to stop words in my post when clearly you are the one doing that. When did i say he can't play on both sides of the pitch?

Its just insane that you have come up with some stats for Benzema which has clearly nothing to do with this argument here. He might be a masterclass counter attacking threat, but coming to link up play, Falcao is way better( I'm making that comparison here because i never put Benzema down in the first place, it was more like a comparison to Falcao)

Rest of your post is blah blah, makes no sense.

p.s. i dunno why i made those words bold.

Falcao can work in any side but the same can't be said about Benzema.

that's what you said... but maybe you meant side as in team? I understood side of the pitch, if you meant side like a team, then my bad.

I made my words bold so you'd see what I said and what you said, because in your posts you implied I used Ronaldo as an excuse for him (while you were the one who did it, saying Ronaldo is the reason why he has assists) and when you said I made him look better than Ozil, when I didn't. I just said he has good linkup and the fact he has 15 assists is better than other AMs who are there to assist strikers.

It's all good, mate. I just don't like it when people say I said things I didn't - just wanted to clarify that. We can disagree on our opinion about Benzema, despite a few facts brought pro and against him.

Also I read a lot of nonsense in your posts, I'll make sure to point out it in the future and call it blah blah.

[Las7 951]

Well he is just on great form atm, he hasn't proved it for several seasons like Falcao yet so we could get him a bit cheaper even though not by much, probably like £45m compare to Falcao £60m now. And since he is on like 75k at Madrid atm we could just offer him £120-£130k and he would take it, Falcao is probably £250k after taxes.

First of all Costa won't be available in January even for £45 million - since it would put Madrid's season in jeopardy

Second of all in the summer if he maintains his current form they could very well ask for over £50 million for a striker that has had one top class season under his belt and no one rated as World Class a few months ago.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

First of all Costa won't be available in January even for £45 million - since it would put Madrid's season in jeopardy

Second of all in the summer if he maintains his current form they could very well ask for over £50 million for a striker that has had one top class season under his belt and no one rated as World Class a few months ago.

Oh I am not talking about Jan but possibly in the summer, in Jan we are not gonna sign anyone lol apart from Jackson Martinez but he would cost 40m because that is his clause and it is Porto. Well in that case we just need to hope Liverpool don't qualify for CL and we sign Suarez for £60-£70m instead then.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

You're right, Benzema's main problem is consistency. If he sorts that out he's able to be as prolific as Falcao.

Despite his goal droughts he still scores 20-30 a season which is pretty impressive.

Isn't that the problem though? Its like saying if I score loads of goals i'll be like messi...

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Isn't that the problem though? Its like saying if I score loads of goals i'll be like messi...

The 'if' in football. If Terry could run he would be the best defender in the world. If Torres could score we wouldn't have to bash him all the time. If players were ageless we would be unbeatable.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

that's what you said... but maybe you meant side as in team? I understood side of the pitch, if you meant side like a team, then my bad.

That's what i meant, but you know what, i should given more clarity to my statement.

Also that line came out of my frustrations. No offence intended, Barbara. :heart:

[The Skipper 20,609]

Isn't that the problem though? Its like saying if I score loads of goals i'll be like messi...

What I'm saying is is that if Benzema consistently scores throughout the whole season instead of going on dry goal spells he'd get Falcao numbers; which he hasn't been far off anyway since he scored 21 goals last season and the season before that he scored 33 goals (which is Falcao level anyway). It's consistently scoring and getting 30+ goals a season, which he is obviously capable of, that is Benzema's problem.

He seems well on his way to rectifying that this season though.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

What I'm saying is is that if Benzema consistently scores throughout the whole season instead of going on dry goal spells he'd get Falcao numbers; which he hasn't been far off anyway since he scored 21 goals last season and the season before that he scored 33 goals (which is Falcao level anyway). It's consistently scoring and getting 30+ goals a season, which he is obviously capable of, that is Benzema's problem.

He seems well on his way to rectifying that this season though.

ya I know what you're saying...

[The Skipper 20,609]

Its just insane that you have come up with some stats for Benzema which has clearly nothing to do with this argument here. He might be a masterclass counter attacking threat, but coming to link up play, Falcao is way better( I'm making that comparison here because i never put Benzema down in the first place, it was more like a comparison to Falcao)

Sorry to reopen the argument but I'm just dead curious... Explain how Falcao is better than Benzema in link up play?

Could you please give me examples?

And why are you ignoring the fact that Atletico Madrid were a counter attacking side (and still are) when Falcao were there?

Falcao is the better counter attack player by far. It's how he scored most of his goals at Atletico.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Sorry to reopen the argument but I'm just dead curious... Explain how Falcao is better than Benzema in link up play?

Could you please give me examples?

And why are you ignoring the fact that Atletico Madrid were a counter attacking side (and still are) when Falcao were there?

Falcao is the better counter attack player by far. It's how he scored most of his goals at Atletico.

Now you're pulling reverse psychology to get ahead on an argument. Not gonna work on me, mate.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Now you're pulling reverse psychology to get ahead on an argument. Not gonna work on me, mate.

I was genuinely asking. The questions still stand, answer them if you want or when you can. I've given you plenty of reasoning as to why I think Falcao and Benzema are who they are but I feel you haven't really done the same.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I was genuinely asking. The questions still stand, answer them if you want or when you can. I've given you plenty of reasoning as to why I think Falcao and Benzema are who they are but I feel you haven't really done the same.

I completely agree on the fact that they're two completely different strikers. Benzema does better on the counter and Falcao does well in those 1v1 situations and has killer striker abilities and is a better dribbler than Benzema IMO.

That video you embedded shows just how good Benzema is on the counter.

http://youtu.be/S-lsMf8-SR4

From this video, I count more goals from sort of balanced play rather than counter-attacks. Most of his goals are from his abilities on the ball and finishing skills. Like I said he creates his own goals from half chances with his killer first touch which, clearly, cannot be said about Benzema.

[Toli 977]

AS Monaco won't pay 75% tax while all other clubs will be forced to pay

http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/international/frankreich/1312/News/as-monaco-soll-doch-keine-reichensteuer-zahlen-ligue-1-bernard-cazeneuve.html

[_007M_ 26]

I think these are just media guesses no more

It's impossible that monaco gave up falcao quickly this way !!

[The Skipper 20,609]

I completely agree on the fact that they're two completely different strikers. Benzema does better on the counter and Falcao does well in those 1v1 situations and has killer striker abilities and is a better dribbler than Benzema IMO.

That video you embedded shows just how good Benzema is on the counter.

http://youtu.be/S-lsMf8-SR4

From this video, I count more goals from sort of balanced play rather than counter-attacks. Most of his goals are from his abilities on the ball and finishing skills. Like I said he creates his own goals from half chances with his killer first touch which, clearly, cannot be said about Benzema.

I remember all of those goals very well, watched Atletico quite a bit last season, and as you can see, the majority of them were either penalties, off the counter, some tap ins, or just ruthless one on one finishing in the box. You're not even disagreeing with anything I said about Falcao - I said that he's a better finisher than Benzema and finds himself in better positions to finish the ball - that's not what we were arguing about.

That video still doesn't show off Falcao's dribbling ability or ability to shield or hold on to the ball or his ability to bring others into play like the video I showed you does. You haven't shown me a video that consistently looks at the general play of Falcao when he's not scoring whilst I have. Are you sure you watched the video I embedded? It doesn't even focus on Benzema's goal scoring ability off the counter (we're not arguing about who has the better killer instinct... That obviously goes to Radamel), it focuses on his general play, his technique with the ball and his ability on the ball. Like I said before, you won't see Falcao beating 3 or 4 guys with just his dribbling ability or with a flick of the ball, or with a great pass into Ronaldo or Ozil or Bale or whoever, which all come outside the box where it's a lot more congested. The above to me defines that one has great ability on the ball. The video you've embedded... All it does is show off Radamel's goal scoring ability which is not the same as ball playing ability or his play in general. As I said again, we're not discussing who's the better goal scorer or finisher. That clearly goes to Falcao.

Like I said you won't see Falcao pulling off the flicks, or the passes, or the ability to beat men in congestion in his general play outside the box like Benzema does. Falcao doesn't come deep like Benzema because he doesn't have the ability to do that. You're trying to make it sound that all Benzema does is goal hang which is completely false because the most forward man in Real's team is obviously Ronaldo.

Lastly, again you're agreeing with a point I said earlier - that Falcao is the one who scores off of half chances in the box - you've just essentially said the same - and that makes him more of a poacher to me than Benzema. Apart from scoring goals, Falcao doesn't offer anything else. He doesn't really bring others into play, he doesn't drop deep to receive the ball like Benzema does, he doesn't have the ability to keep the ball effectively if crowded out by 3/4 players outside the box... All he does is get into great positions in the box and finishes ruthlessly. Which is exactly what a poacher does.

[Barbara 15,149]

That's what i meant, but you know what, i should given more clarity to my statement.

Also that line came out of my frustrations. No offence intended, Barbara. :heart:

none taken

sorry if I offended you anyhow

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I remember all of those goals very well, watched Atletico quite a bit last season, and as you can see, the majority of them were either penalties, off the counter, some tap ins, or just ruthless one on one finishing in the box. You're not even disagreeing with anything I said about Falcao - I said that he's a better finisher than Benzema and finds himself in better positions to finish the ball - that's not what we were arguing about.

That video still doesn't show off Falcao's dribbling ability or ability to shield or hold on to the ball or his ability to bring others into play like the video I showed you does. You haven't shown me a video that consistently looks at the general play of Falcao when he's not scoring whilst I have. Are you sure you watched the video I embedded? It doesn't even focus on Benzema's goal scoring ability off the counter (we're not arguing about who has the better killer instinct... That obviously goes to Radamel), it focuses on his general play, his technique with the ball and his ability on the ball. Like I said before, you won't see Falcao beating 3 or 4 guys with just his dribbling ability or with a flick of the ball, or with a great pass into Ronaldo or Ozil or Bale or whoever, which all come outside the box where it's a lot more congested. The above to me defines that one has great ability on the ball. The video you've embedded... All it does is show off Radamel's goal scoring ability which is not the same as ball playing ability or his play in general. As I said again, we're not discussing who's the better goal scorer or finisher. That clearly goes to Falcao.

Like I said you won't see Falcao pulling off the flicks, or the passes, or the ability to beat men in congestion in his general play outside the box like Benzema does. Falcao doesn't come deep like Benzema because he doesn't have the ability to do that. You're trying to make it sound that all Benzema does is goal hang which is completely false because the most forward man in Real's team is obviously Ronaldo.

Lastly, again you're agreeing with a point I said earlier - that Falcao is the one who scores off of half chances in the box - you've just essentially said the same - and that makes him more of a poacher to me than Benzema. Apart from scoring goals, Falcao doesn't offer anything else. He doesn't really bring others into play, he doesn't drop deep to receive the ball like Benzema does, he doesn't have the ability to keep the ball effectively if crowded out by 3/4 players outside the box... All he does is get into great positions in the box and finishes ruthlessly. Which is exactly what a poacher does.

Fine, bro. It seems that you can't get over the fact that Falcao is a better striker than Benzema, be it holding up the ball or finishing or passing. And both vids doesn't do enough justice to the arguments.

Real is one of my fav teams in Europe and I've watched enough Benzema to know how good he is but don't think he is a better all rounder than Falcao. Period.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Fine, bro. It seems that you can't get over the fact that Falcao is a better striker than Benzema, be it holding up the ball or finishing or passing. And both vids doesn't do enough justice to the arguments.

Real is one of my fav teams in Europe and I've watched enough Benzema to know how good he is but don't think he is a better all rounder than Falcao. Period.

So you think Falcao is a better passer than Benzema? And that he can hold the ball up better?

I did state from the start that I think Benzema is better than Falcao.

I rest my case. Don't worry about it we'll just leave it there.

[Styles 9,790]

Benzema is a better all-round player than Falcao.

Falcao is a better finisher than Benzema.

Just my two cents.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Benzema is a better all-round player than Falcao.

Falcao is a better finisher than Benzema.

Just my two cents.

The truth actually..