Stingray 9,441 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I like it when people throw around numbers for wages and transfer fees. Most numbers are definitely pulled out of their arses. It is at its absolute worst when people just state fees and wages like absolutely nothing. To me £25,000,000 (or whatever exorbitant fee is being discussed) is a fucking lot, way too much for a guy that hasn't done anything for two whole years. The fact that he was really good pre-2013 shouldn't justify his fee nor his wages. The idea that "form is temporary, class is permanent" is such a load of horseshit the amount of people that believe it actually boggles my mind. Of course there is a chance he could return to his abilities pre-2013 but the club shouldn't be paying a lot for a player that was good in the far past.He has scored 21 goals in the last two years for Monaco, Manchester United and Colombia. If he were on £200,000 p/w he would earn £10,400,000 in exactly one year. Is ten million pounds what this guy should be earning?You have a good point there. Haven't thought about it that way tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Chelsea is close to finalize an agreement to sign Radamel Falcao, on loan with option to purchase. (via @diegocora_ESPN) #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's the hope that kills. A player that has been damaged due to constant injuries and subpar for close to 3 seasons (he was poor in his last season at Atleti before joining monaco) Will somehow marginally turn it around at Chelsea. And the disturbing part is, some people are actually getting excited about the prospect of a washed up player who our rival couldn't wait to get rid of signing for us. You can't make this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (he was poor in his last season at Atleti before joining monaco)34 goals in 40 games. Season earlier 36 goals in 52 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's the hope that kills. A player that has been damaged due to constant injuries and subpar for close to 3 seasons (he was poor in his last season at Atleti before joining monaco) Will somehow marginally turn it around at Chelsea. And the disturbing part is, some people are actually getting excited about the prospect of a washed up player who our rival couldn't wait to get rid of signing for us. You can't make this up.Hmmmmmm. Odd that you'd say that. Your either talking out your arse or you know something we don't. Perhaps an incredible indepth scouting review of every performance he made during that season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It was in his final season at Atletico that he scored the hat-trick vs Chelsea. The impressive goal vs Barcelona, and the assist for Diego in Copa final. He did have some injury problems that season though, which usually leads to loss of form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 34 goals in 40 games. Season earlier 36 goals in 52 games.As usual throw out the stats without perspective. Everyone that followed Athletico that season will attest to the fact that He was completely outplayed by Costa in the second half of his last season there and he even hit a 4 months or so stretch where he couldn't score at all from open play as virtually all of his goals during that stretch came from penalties. I guess Di maria also had a great season seeing as statistically, he ranks amongst the best playmakers in the league.His first 4 months aside, He was poor from late December till the end of that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illmatic 901 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It was in his final season at Atletico that he scored the hat-trick vs Chelsea. The impressive goal vs Barcelona, and the assist for Diego in Copa final.5 goals in one match, his first goal from a free kick. His two seasons in Atleti were just amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It was in his final season at Atletico that he scored the hat-trick vs Chelsea. The impressive goal vs Barcelona, and the assist for Diego in Copa final.He did have some injury problems that season though, which usually leads to loss of form.And that was in the first half of the season. How was his form in the second half of the same season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 And that was in the first half of the season. How was his form in the second half of the same season?So first he was "he was poor in his last season at Atleti before joining monaco" and now he was poor in the second half only? Goal posts are moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 well, Oscar was poor for us only during the 2nd half of this season, but it's almost unanimous that he had a 'poor season' on the whole because of that entire half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I like it when people throw around numbers for wages and transfer fees. Most numbers are definitely pulled out of their arses. It is at its absolute worst when people just state fees and wages like absolutely nothing. To me £25,000,000 (or whatever exorbitant fee is being discussed) is a fucking lot, way too much for a guy that hasn't done anything for two whole years. The fact that he was really good pre-2013 shouldn't justify his fee nor his wages. The idea that "form is temporary, class is permanent" is such a load of horseshit the amount of people that believe it actually boggles my mind. Of course there is a chance he could return to his abilities pre-2013 but the club shouldn't be paying a lot for a player that was good in the far past.He has scored 21 goals in the last two years for Monaco, Manchester United and Colombia. If he were on £200,000 p/w he would earn £10,400,000 in exactly one year. Is ten million pounds what this guy should be earning?But he's a big name mate. We need to go back to the old way of signing players because of their big names, just like Shevchenko and Torres. C'mon, won't you join me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 well, Oscar was poor for us only during the 2nd half of this season, but it's almost unanimous that he had a 'poor season' on the whole because of that entire half No. only first half of the season form counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,539 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 i`m ok with him coming for a year.i`m o.k with him not coming for a year but i`m mad against us actually committing to buy him next year regardless of how he does now.the Monaco owner made the biggest business mistake of his life pumping millions into a club that plays on a tiny island(even if it`s full of millionaires) in a tiny stadium..we shouldn`t help dig him out of the mess by paying so much for a talented player who may just never be the player he was again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Falcao's second half of 2012/2013 (since January) - 14 goals for Atletico, 2 from penalties.Falcao in Monaco - 11 goals in 18 starts, 2 from penaltis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's very simple logic, Falcao was poor 6 months prior to leaving Atleti and carried that form to monaco where despite scoring some goals was generally subpar and sustained a few injuries which forced ranieri to relegate him to the bench and the same thing happened at UTD. hence why I said this "subpar for close to 3 seasons" in my original post. meaning I acknowledged his first half form otherwise it would just be 3 straight season of poor form instead of close to 3 seasons. But you can carry on the narrative that falcao was only poor at UTD if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's very simple logic, Falcao was poor 6 months prior to leaving Atleti and carried that form to monaco where despite scoring some goals was generally subpar and sustained a few injuries which forced ranieri to relegate him to the bench and the same thing happened at UTD. hence why I said this "subpar for close to 3 seasons" in my original post. meaning I acknowledged his first half form otherwise it would just be 3 straight season of poor form instead of close to 3 seasons. But you can carry on the narrative that falcao was only poor at UTD if you want.You said "he was poor in his last season at Atleti before joining monaco", and people showed you are wrong, than you said "virtually all of his goals during that stretch came from penalties (last 4 months in Atletico) and i showed you're wrong about that as well.How can anyone take this seriously if you just make things up?And there were not "a few injuries" in Monaco there was one very big injury. He was never "relegated to the bench". Lies everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's very simple logic, Falcao was poor 6 months prior to leaving Atleti and carried that form to monaco where despite scoring some goals was generally subpar and sustained a few injuries which forced ranieri to relegate him to the bench and the same thing happened at UTD. hence why I said this "subpar for close to 3 seasons" in my original post. meaning I acknowledged his first half form otherwise it would just be 3 straight season of poor form instead of close to 3 seasons. But you can carry on the narrative that falcao was only poor at UTD if you want.Then you contradicted yourself with (he was poor in his last season at Atleti before joining monaco) which to me means the whole season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,539 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 stats indicate that Claudio Pizzaro was the greatest striker import in the history of German league football,a better level of competition than the French league overall..does anyone regret him leaving us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechromancer 262 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 He won the Treble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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