🇨🇴 Juan Cuadrado

[Tomo 21,751]

1 hour ago, chelseafan26 said:

How is pedro better than cuadrado?

Juan came to a team which was set in its ways. We were going to play Hazard-oscar-willian under jose until one of them dropped dead. And in case someone did drop dead, we played Hazard-cesc-willian with a pivot of rambo/mikel-matic.

How can anyone label cuadrado the worst buy after 311 minutes of PL action is beyond me. Whats worse is that these 311 minutes happened over the course of 12 games, which means he got 25 minutes per game. And as far as I remember, most of these appearances were when we were a slender lead ahead and needed to defend for our lives.

On the other hand we have a headless chicken in pedro who has had a WHOLE season with us and has done nothing. Cant dribble, finishing is pathetic. And while we are on the subject, I would rather take Moses over Pedro next season. Dont people realise how utterly shit shit Pedro has been. He has failed to be called even average in a season where we are 10th.

Also, for his "good form" before injury, it was against the worst teams in the league. So lets not exaggerate. Put in Moses/Cuadrado/Musonda against Newcastle and the way they defended that day and each of them would get a brace too.

1. Villa are the worst team in the league.

2. Newcastlemay be down near the bottom but they won at White Hart Lane, drew at Old Trafford and outplayed Arsenal at The Emirates and were desperately unlucky to lose.

While we should be beating Newcastle at home, as those results/performances above show it still ain't the type of team we can just best by turning up.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Good for him, get his name on scoresheet. At least that will up his price a bit, lol.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Might as well keep him. Lightweight, yes, but a decent squad option who can provide cover across the three attacking midfield positions, and at RB at a push. Deserves a shot, a proper shot, at least. 336 minutes under Mourinho isn't enough to judge him fairly by.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

19 hours ago, Stats said:

4-2-3-1. Muller plays behind Lewa. Options on wing are only Costa, Ribery, Robben and Coman. Robben will be injured 3/4 of the season anyway and is getting on as is Ribery. I don't think he will have any interest in joining us.

You forgot about gotze. I know Ancelloti doesn't rotate as much as Guardiola so we'll see how this plays out next season. 

But the general point I was trying to make was we can still sign top players. As long as we have a top coach who will make the call to convince the player, it's possible. 

[iseah100 5,612]

Anyone care to wager $100 that Conta brings him back when/if he gets hired?

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

11 hours ago, iseah100 said:

Anyone care to wager $100 that Conta brings him back when/if he gets hired?

No but I'll wager a hundred quid that, if he does, he'll soon send him away again.

[iseah100 5,612]

No but I'll wager a hundred quid that, if he does, he'll soon send him away again. [emoji4]

I don't think so. But we shall see.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

Just be kind enough not to remember I said that when Cuadrado notches up his 100th appearance for the club.

 

[The Skipper 20,609]

On 18 March 2016 at 9:05 AM, BlueLion said:

Might as well keep him. Lightweight, yes, but a decent squad option who can provide cover across the three attacking midfield positions, and at RB at a push. Deserves a shot, a proper shot, at least. 336 minutes under Mourinho isn't enough to judge him fairly by.

We're so stacked at AM. We don't need him. Pedro provides what Cuadrado would perfectly. We have some great talents like Musonda, Kenedy and someone like Traore and Boga who could easily fill in there. No need for Cuadrado at all. 

At the moment we have Hazard, Willian, Pedro, Oscar, Kenedy, Traore and have Musonda and Boga out on loan. You think adding Cuadrado is wise? 

[chelseafan26 293]

On 18/03/2016 at 10:32 AM, Tomo said:

1. Villa are the worst team in the league.

2. Newcastlemay be down near the bottom but they won at White Hart Lane, drew at Old Trafford and outplayed Arsenal at The Emirates and were desperately unlucky to lose.

While we should be beating Newcastle at home, as those results/performances above show it still ain't the type of team we can just best by turning up.

Fair enough. But I still stand on my point. Pedro got his chance and showed that he is not good enough for us. Dont know why people are so willing to give pedro a season of being awful and still want him here while want cuadrado gone after 300 minutes of football spread over 12 games. 

[chelseafan26 293]

2 hours ago, The Skipper said:

We're so stacked at AM. We don't need him. Pedro provides what Cuadrado would perfectly. We have some great talents like Musonda, Kenedy and someone like Traore and Boga who could easily fill in there. No need for Cuadrado at all. 

At the moment we have Hazard, Willian, Pedro, Oscar, Kenedy, Traore and have Musonda and Boga out on loan. You think adding Cuadrado is wise? 

Pedro and oscar should not be here next season.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Just now, chelseafan26 said:

Pedro and oscar should not be here next season.

Even if you think that's the case (not sure what Pedro has done so wrong btw), getting in Cuadrado on both is not an upgrade in any sense. 

[chelseafan26 293]

1 minute ago, The Skipper said:

Even if you think that's the case (not sure what Pedro has done so wrong btw), getting in Cuadrado on both is not an upgrade in any sense. 

He is definitely an upgrade on both the players. Oscar should not even be a question.

Pedro on the other hand, has been awful all season long unless you count his performance against newcastle. 

If we are not considering players because of youth players like kenedy, musonda, boga then, we should be eliminating oscar and pedro first and foremost. 

As for my choice, I would sell all of them. Pedro, oscar, Juan,  marin and get a proper no.10 like james/isco with moses, kenedy and musonda as back ups. My only qualm is tht if we are eliminating juan, the same rules must apply to the players who are responsible to this disaster of a season.

[Leif 6,006]

He was great for Fiorentina.

He was shit for Chelsea.

He was great for Juventus.

He would be shit for Chelsea again.

Any other POV and I'm lost. 

[Roquila 1,335]

Did some of u forgot how his time at Chelsea was? Penguin with a ball on its feet is the perfect description.

[DANILA 290]

8 minutes ago, Roquila said:

Did some of u forgot how his time at Chelsea was? Penguin with a ball on its feet is the perfect description.

Many players are complete sh*t under mourinho's excellent 'system'. I don't think it's fair to judge Caudrado on ~350 mins or so under the bus parking specialist.

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

1 minute ago, DANILA said:

Many players are complete sh*t under mourinho's excellent 'system'. I don't think it's not fair to judge Caudrado on ~350 mins or so under the bus parking specialist.

So, counterattacking system doesn't suit for a player whose main (and maybe only) asset is a speed? And it's not "system" fault that he can't stay on his feet and falls under minimal contact.

[chelseafan26 293]

1 hour ago, pHaRaOn said:

So, counterattacking system doesn't suit for a player whose main (and maybe only) asset is a speed? And it's not "system" fault that he can't stay on his feet and falls under minimal contact.

Mate, he got a total of 310 minutes spread over 12 appearances. Thats an average of 26 minutes per apperances. In a team where he was transfered in the Jan window, a league which is considered to be the toughest to play in. 

As for the "system", lets be honest here, we have been shit for 1 and a half years now. Since last Jan. Our only "system" was to pass the ball to hazard and hope and pray to god that he can get us the goal/assist. Juan played 10 minutes against villa (2-1 win), 7 minutes against soton (1-1 draw), 27 minutes against stoke (2-1 win), 10 inutes against QPR (1-0 win), 2 minutes against arsenal (0-0 draw), 3 minutes against leicester (3-1 win). I can bet everything I have on the fact that Juan's main job coming in as a sub in all of these games was to "protect the lead and provide cover for the full back". 

I love jose, but its not juan, salah, moses, kdb, mata and "everybody elses" fault that they cant succeed in jose's no rotation, park the bus policy. 

Yes, Juan was poor when he got his chances like against everton and burnley, but forgive me if i cant make an assumption of a player's calibre with 2/3 non-dead rubber starts for a club he got transferred to in January, barely got any gametime and a club that deployed defensive tactics to simply get "over the line".

[the wes 7,212]

 

 

CHELSEA

Rumour Check: Chelsea Edge Closer to Reach Agreement Over Transfer of €22m Winger

ByLuke Taylor

Date: March 23, 2016

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Original source: Gazzetta World
Published by: Standard, The Sun, Bleacher Report
Also interested: None
Contract until: 2019

According to the Italian newspaper Gazzetta World, Chelsea and Juventus are close to reach agreement over transfer of Colombian international Juan Cuadrado. The 27-year-old has moved to Stamford Bridge last year from Fiorentina, but failed to make an impact and has made just 15 appearances and On 25 August 2015 signed a season-long loan with Juve. Per Simon Johnson of the Evening Standard, the Old Lady “want to trigger an option to buy [Cuadrado] this summer” and “claim there is a gentleman’s agreement to sign him for €22 million (£17.2 million).”

[BlueLion. 21,491]

20 hours ago, The Skipper said:

We're so stacked at AM. We don't need him. Pedro provides what Cuadrado would perfectly. We have some great talents like Musonda, Kenedy and someone like Traore and Boga who could easily fill in there. No need for Cuadrado at all. 

At the moment we have Hazard, Willian, Pedro, Oscar, Kenedy, Traore and have Musonda and Boga out on loan. You think adding Cuadrado is wise? 

And how many of those are performing?