CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 This is just so good :')https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auAs0WwkB1o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 What has happened to Cech's ability to claim balls in his area?? Jose won't like this. It was the main reason he chose Diego lopez over Casilas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 What has happened to Cech's ability to claim balls in his area?? Jose won't like this. It was the main reason he chose Diego lopez over CasilasHe looked skittish for their goal but Torres needs to mark Heitinga better and show more aggression to get ahead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 02He looked skittish for their goal but Torres needs to mark Heitinga better and show more aggression to get ahead of him.Cech has come out to catch the ball in two consecutive corners and missed. I know the players also missed their markers but it was in the 6 yard box. Few keepers are the size of cech and he cannot come out and not get to the ball. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 ÄŒech named Czech player of the year again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 ÄŒech named Czech player of the year againNo wonder, he's got absolutely no competition. Sometimes I just wished he changed his nationality so he would get a chance to have some kind of success on the international level. He would never do that, though. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 No wonder, he's got absolutely no competition. Sometimes I just wished he changed his nationality so he would get a chance to have some kind of success on the international level. He would never do that, though.Also it kinda feels like he never got the recognition he deserved because he wasn't playing for a big national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Also it kinda feels like he never got the recognition he deserved because he wasn't playing for a big national team.He's generally been underrated throughout his career. The credit for our clean sheets and number of goals conceded always goes to the back four but rarely to Petr himself. Even the incredible performances he put in the CL and FA cup run in 2012 barely get a mention by the media and neutrals even though at times he seemed to be playing alone against 11 men. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 He's generally been underrated throughout his career. The credit for our clean sheets and number of goals conceded always goes to the back four but rarely to Petr himself. Even the incredible performances he put in the CL and FA cup run in 2012 barely get a mention by the media and neutrals even though at times he seemed to be playing alone against 11 men. People don't appreciate what they have until it's gone.Half of the people who want to see Courtois displace Cech will watch this young man come in, thinking he is as good as Cech, and they will only be disappointed. Courtois will, one day, be as good as - maybe even better than - Cech's current standard, but right now Cech is the better keeper. Thankfully we are swapping one world class keeper for another excellent one who has the potential to be world class himself. But, my point stands, if you are to rate them as goalkeepers out of 100 you'd say, if Neuer is the world's best (which he is, no debate necessary) and is realistically rated out of 100 as 90/91, then Cech would be about 88/89 and Courtois would be 86/87. There's just that little gulf in class which will be noticeable, mark my words. Thankfully Courtois is very young and will improve. Will he reach the same levels Cech did, and still does? There is a very good chance of it. But this is a very nice headache to have. United and Arsenal fans look on with envy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 People don't appreciate what they have until it's gone.Half of the people who want to see Courtois displace Cech will watch this young man come in, thinking he is as good as Cech, and they will only be disappointed. Courtois will, one day, be as good as - maybe even better than - Cech's current standard, but right now Cech is the better keeper. Thankfully we are swapping one world class keeper for another excellent one who has the potential to be world class himself. But, my point stands, if you are to rate them as goalkeepers out of 100 you'd say, if Neuer is the world's best (which he is, no debate necessary) and is realistically rated out of 100 as 90/91, then Cech would be about 88/89 and Courtois would be 86/87. There's just that little gulf in class which will be noticeable, mark my words. Thankfully Courtois is very young and will improve. Will he reach the same levels Cech did, and still does? There is a very good chance of it. But this is a very nice headache to have. United and Arsenal fans look on with envy. Well IMO if there's a big risk of losing Courtois we must let Cech go.Sadly that's the only option I see ATM .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 People don't appreciate what they have until it's gone.Half of the people who want to see Courtois displace Cech will watch this young man come in, thinking he is as good as Cech, and they will only be disappointed. Courtois will, one day, be as good as - maybe even better than - Cech's current standard, but right now Cech is the better keeper. I think some people are thinking off the Cech of a couple of seasons ago and not the one who is presently in goal. The simple fact is that he's actually costing us points for the first time I can remember. He looks dodgy at crosses despite our defence being more settled now than it has done for a while. He'll go down in history as our greatest keeper but I can't think of a single point from this season which will be used to support that argument.Honestly I don't see this gulf in class. If Courtois was here this season then he would've got a chance already because Cech has been dropped once already. I'd drop him for the Spurs game to be quite honest but Schwarzer isn't the right replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I think some people are thinking off the Cech of a couple of seasons ago and not the one who is presently in goal. The simple fact is that he's actually costing us points for the first time I can remember. He looks dodgy at crosses despite our defence being more settled now than it has done for a while. He'll go down in history as our greatest keeper but I can't think of a single point from this season which will be used to support that argument.Honestly I don't see this gulf in class. If Courtois was here this season then he would've got a chance already because Cech has been dropped once already. I'd drop him for the Spurs game to be quite honest but Schwarzer isn't the right replacement. Each to their own, but I have to pick you up on that point I've highlighted. He's made some absolutely outstanding saves this season, particularly against Bayern in the Super Cup, which for me was his single-best ever performance for us. Every goalkeeper makes mistakes, even when he was at what you would identify as his best in 2004-2006 he made some absolute howlers, but either managed to bail himself out or Riccy Carvalho or JT would do it for him. Then let us not forget how poor he was for large periods in 2008, either side of the Euros, where he was, quite frankly, terrible. Since his head injury his form has peaked and dipped but there are far, far more highs than lows. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Each to their own, but I have to pick you up on that point I've highlighted. He's made some absolutely outstanding saves this season, particularly against Bayern in the Super Cup, which for me was his single-best ever performance for us. Every goalkeeper makes mistakes, even when he was at what you would identify as his best in 2004-2006 he made some absolute howlers, but either managed to bail himself out or Riccy Carvalho or JT would do it for him. Then let us not forget how poor he was for large periods in 2008, either side of the Euros, where he was, quite frankly, terrible. Since his head injury his form has peaked and dipped but there are far, far more highs than lows.He made some fine saves in that match, but what you want is consistency in that position. He's looked a little skittish at crosses which you don't expect with someone of his experience and when that's the main thing he has over Courtois then you have to wonder why we aren't jumping at the chance to give the Belgian a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 He made some fine saves in that match, but what you want is consistency in that position. He's looked a little skittish at crosses which you don't expect with someone of his experience and when that's the main thing he has over Courtois then you have to wonder why we aren't jumping at the chance to give the Belgian a chance.Agreed he has been a little shaky. My point is that in the past when he's looked shaky, he has always bounced back and demonstrated how good he is.The headache, though - and it is a nice headache to have, in a way - is whether or not to replace him with Courtois. Sadly it is a cyclical argument. The fact is none of us will know what will happen. Mourinho has shown sentiment is not a problem in the way he has replaced Casillas and Cole respectively with better performing players over the last two seasons. I would much rather see Petr leave than be discarded in the same was Casillas was at Real, though. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 No wonder, he's got absolutely no competition. Sometimes I just wished he changed his nationality so he would get a chance to have some kind of success on the international level. He would never do that, though.Similar case with Ivanovic and the Serbian Player of the Year award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pWneR 230 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Similar case with Ivanovic and the Serbian Player of the Year award.Well, he'll have some competition in Kolarov and Matić, and maybe Nastasić. Subotić has been injured for most of the season so he's out from the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Well, he'll have some competition in Kolarov and Matić, and maybe Nastasić. Subotić has been injured for most of the season so he's out from the competition.-iva--subotic--nastasic--kolarov---------------matic--------------How the hell did they not qualify for WC?? What a shame!! Sidzeret 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pWneR 230 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Because of former NT coach and lack of good attackers, but now with new coach and some youngsters coming (Marković and Mitrović) hopefully we'll produce some good results. Eggman and didierforever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Well, he'll have some competition in Kolarov and Matić, and maybe Nastasić. Subotić has been injured for most of the season so he's out from the competition.True, supposed Ivanovic will have more competition now but won't be surprised if he wins it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Because of former NT coach and lack of good attackers, but now with new coach and some youngsters coming (Marković and Mitrović) hopefully we'll produce some good results.A bit off-topic but is this guy named Mitrovic from Mitrovica or is it just a coinsidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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