Nike 373 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 The fact that through this entire exchange you haven't once mentioned who you think would've been a better buy speaks volumes to me.You may be somewhat... actually no. But at any rate, Chelsea have built the most complete, balanced squad in the Prem. Most of the teams I think you are looking at play a two striker system, not one. Most complete Im not too sure of.I think City is the most complete team in the EPL. However, Hart has been sucking for a while and their whole team is injury prone these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Have nothing to say about your rant on City, Rules, and people who compare one play with another?! Cheaper signings are riskier by definition... that's how the market works.No it doesn't sound silly to me at all because like I said, in my very personal opinion, all other top clubs in England have better options to replace their lead striker. Our lead striker is as good as anyone's, but not our subs.All other top clubs have two lead strikers in their first team XI, we only have one. bababoom and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Eto held the ball up better than Torres, lukaku, ba did in recent times. But that's not why he was purchased... If you say he was better than them in that regard( I'm not really gonna bother agreeing or disagreeing) then that is just bonus. Rooney was our target the whole summer, not for his hold up play but his technical ability and link up play. That is how I envision Remy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted September 2, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted September 2, 2014 Compare ourselves to people who similarly only have 1 lead striker in their system - Real for example. Who do they have as back up to Benzema? That's right - Hernandez. The Chels, bababoom, Blue-in-me-Veins and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 But he that's not why he was purchased... If you say he was better than them in that regard( I'm not really gonna bother agreeing or disagreeing) then that is just bonus. Rooney was our target the whole summer, not for his hold up play but his technical ability and link up play. That is how I envision Remy.Remy and Rooney are like 2 different players....Remy is a counter attacking demon with immense pace. Rooney lacks pace, but has really good technique. Remy isnt Lukaku bad in technique, but isnt really as good as his French counterparts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think the numbers for the season have already been submitted.What's his number, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Most complete Im not too sure of.I think City is the most complete team in the EPL. However, Hart has been sucking for a while and their whole team is injury prone these days. Nope... But they are close.Hart is garbage.Their back four minus Kompany is laughable.Yaya is a presence but doesn't win a ton of balls in the midfield nor does he tackle. I guess Fernando and Fernandinho are mostly responsible for that but I'd take what we have in Matic/Ramires/Mikel in that role.The only place I would say they have a definite advantage is striker, mainly because of the options they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Remy and Rooney are like 2 different players....Remy is a counter attacking demon with immense pace. Rooney lacks pace, but has really good technique. Remy isnt Lukaku bad in technique, but isnt really as good as his French counterparts. What are we talking about here? I agree Rooney has different qualities to Remy but do you think Wayne can hold up the ball? Remy offers something DIFFERENT to what we already possess, we are looking for a plan B not A and A2. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 What's his number, then?Not sure, it'll be released in the coming days. Doesn't mean it hasn't been assigned though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Nope... But they are close.Hart is garbage.Their back four minus Kompany is laughable.Yaya is a presence but doesn't win a ton of balls in the midfield nor does he tackle. I guess Fernando and Fernandinho are mostly responsible for that but I'd take what we have in Matic/Ramires/Mikel in that role.The only place I would say they have a definite advantage is striker, mainly because of the options they have.CIty have better attacking fullbacks and Kompany, if fit is far superior than anyone on Chelsea. Hart really has regressed quite a bit or maybe the english hyped him up to much. CIty play an offensive attacking game, allowing their back 4 to be expose more often. Chelsea play like that last week and Everton scored 3 goals.Yaya, when he actually cares, is the best CM by far in the EPL. I think a midfield 3 of fernando, fernandinho and toure is better than ramires, matic and cesc. Silva, to me is both the best playmaker and player in the EPL (along with Aguero and Toure). Nasri is also very good player. However, Chelsea has more depth so, I give Chelsea the advantage unless we count both aguero and jovetic as ams.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Not sure, it'll be released in the coming days. Doesn't mean it hasn't been assigned thoughStart using the edit function please, triple posting is not ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 What are we talking about here? I agree Rooney has different qualities to Remy but do you think Wayne can hold up the ball? Remy offers something DIFFERENT to what we already possess, we are looking for a plan B not A and A2.Rooney holdup play is very good. Rooney best season for United was when Rooney played as a lone striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 CIty have better attacking fullbacks and Kompany, if fit is far superior than anyone on Chelsea. Hart really has regressed quite a bit or maybe the english hyped him up to much. CIty play an offensive attacking game, allowing their back 4 to be expose more often. Chelsea play like that last week and Everton scored 3 goals.Yaya, when he actually cares, is the best CM by far in the EPL. I think a midfield 3 of fernando, fernandinho and toure is better than ramires, matic and cesc. Silva, to me is both the best playmaker and player in the EPL (along with Aguero and Toure). Nasri is also very good player. However, Chelsea has more depth so, I give Chelsea the advantage unless we count both aguero and jovetic as ams.... I like my fullbacks to be able to defend... Just my own personal taste. Yaya was the best, I'm not sure he's the same player today. Still a deadly goalscorer but not exactly the box to box presence he once was... He's 31 now.As I said, I think its close we're probably splitting hairs here but I would say we have a more complete, balanced squad than City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 What does Bony offer that we don't already have? 25m? for a guy who will start in a handful of games and doesn't offer a plan B? would Bony be comfortable not starting a lot of games? does his game require he play all the time to keep match fitness? All of these questions are the ones that I need answered when looking at a bench player.its not just about bony playing only when costa is injured or has to be rested. its also about giving costa a fight for his space. any and every striker in the world will go thru a rough patch. even messi did last season. in such a scenario, bony would have be a great inclusion.also, bony is technically superior than remy. has a higher ceiling and would have been more than just a stop gap and probably even a good long term 2nd striker solution. 25mil is a LOT. no doubt. but with bony it would probably have been worth the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike 373 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 RemySchurrle-Willian-salahRamiresOn the counter....... 5 speed demons StrategiC and bababoom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Start using the edit function please, triple posting is not ideal.No idea what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Compare ourselves to people who similarly only have 1 lead striker in their system - Real for example. Who do they have as back up to Benzema? That's right - Hernandez.Exactly. Bayern as another example have Pizzaro as backup to Lewa...however both real and bayern have either Ronaldo or Muller who are also extremely good finishers, while we have Schurrle/Hazard. Neither is as good finisher as those two, but I think Schurrle will give us alot in attack too in next seasons, this one included. Hazard will probably take some sort of role of Ribery. Not many goals IMO, but still key part of the attack. The Skipper and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Rooney holdup play is very good. Rooney best season for United was when Rooney played as a lone striker. LOL They never used him like that! Utd never lumped it up to their CF. He was almost used as a false 9, came deep to collect and help build attacks.Anyway I seriously doubt Jose sanctioned the purchase of Remy because he thought he would be ideal when we want to play more direct, Drogba was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 No idea what you're talking about.You do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 You do.NO actually I don't, where have I triple posted? It doesn't look like that on my screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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